THE OVERBEARING SELF AGGRANDISEMENT OF THE IGNORANT ILLEGAL REGIME

News Brief

Mon – Nov 09 ’09

The corrupt in our society can’t say they have not been warned. The fight against corruption is being stepped up. One of the mandates given to the Government by the former President, Ratu Josefa Iloilo, is the eradication of the corruption problem. Prime Minster Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama has made his own views clear. At the launch of the Fiji Independent Commission Against Corruption (FICAC) website (http://www.ficac.org.fj/) the Prime MInister said: “Corruption is present at all levels in society and past governments have failed in a tangible manner to arrest this problem.” (FS) Well ain’t that the understatement of the century, from the most corrupt person in Fiji. Self talk tiko vei iko oink!

The upkeep of school buildings and quarters is the responsibility of school committees. This was stressed by Minister for Education Filipe Bole yesterday. Mr Bole was responding to queries on the writing off of some school blocks and teachers quarters in Tailevu last week by the Occupational Health and Safety department. (FS) Silly old Bole still struggling after all these years, please spare the Citizens of Fiji & go retire in Mualevu,

Just days after being sworn into office, President Ratu Epeli Nailatikau arrived in Labasa yesterday on his first official tour as President. The week-long tour begins this morning where the President is expected to travel with senior government officials to Dreketi, Batiri and Seaqaqa visiting agriculture and irrigation sites. Since the arrival of Ratu Epeli, police has beefed security with at least 50 officers working on the ground. Ratu Epeli was quickly whisked away to his hotel by his personnel soon after a brief meeting with senior government officials at the Waiqele airport. (FS) For just a nanosecond there I thought I was reading about Afghanistan, & Karzai (another dodgy one), Nailatikaus cousin was swanning around in one of his famous blankets (he lent one to Koila for a recent photo opportunity). Beefing up security, puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese, the self importance is so ludicrous.

What began as an initiative to recognize the achievement of our exporters 17 years ago is today a premier event. The increasing number of Award categories further distinguishes the achievement of our local exporters across a growing export base. Fiji Islands Trade and Investment Bureau Chief Executive Officer Annie Rogers on Saturday night said the 18 categories vied for now showed that Fiji is a quality exporter. The event acknowledges, appreciates and rewards the accomplishments of our outstanding exporters. (FS)  More cocktails and fingerfood paid from the Nations depleted coffers for those who’d never heard of or been invited to such events, let alone been given a passing thought, until the illegal stouch of 5.12.06

59 Responses to “THE OVERBEARING SELF AGGRANDISEMENT OF THE IGNORANT ILLEGAL REGIME”

  1. Rosday Says:

    Filipe Bole is not from Mualevu, e vasu ga.
    E kai Bouma, Taveuni Vanua Levu okoya.
    E Bula ga mai na Tavioka kei Mualevu.

  2. Anon. Says:

    Maybe they can finally investigate the $6 million + accumalated intrest – Vatukoula trust fund money? Where’s it been & who was skimming?

  3. Budhau Says:

    “More cocktails and fingerfood” – this sounds very different from the functions hosted by the provincial council – now those functions have real food paid for by the tax payers money or in other cases they are paid for by the money collected by selling fishing license etc.

    Anon – talking about skimming, scamming and all that – that is part of our culture. Why worry about $6 million here and $4 million there – when we were never bothered by $200 million here, and $125 million there.

    The more important thing is who gets his turn next at the scamming – isn’t that what the fight is all about.

  4. Red Scorpion Says:

    Vinaka Soli,

    “let them eat cake she said, just like Marie Antoinette”

    U see them indulging in their thieving lifestyles, supping on the blood of the people. Meanwhile the common man’s wages have been cut, from direct paycuts, devaluation and inflationary pressures – families are going hungry. It will be a terrible thing when this finally blows over.

    I hope that Aust & NZ keep up their pressure and lobbying behind the scenes to kick our “peacekeepers” out of UN missions. Let them all come back home angry and clean up their own mess at Nabua.

    E sega ni ura me tei damu. We have long memories and the IG will fall, lets make them pay when that time comes, every last one of them.

    We can see above that our troll is employing its same old tactic, seeking to distract us. We will not forget this thievery, murder, persecution etc. What starts off wrong and illegal will always remain so. We will not turn a blind eye to this and forgive them, when the IG especiallly Mara siblings, their backers etc will appeal to the people for mercy and forgiveness. Innocent blood has been spilt, people have lost their homes and livelihoods etc. they must pay for the evil and misery they have unleashed on the people; every last one of them.

  5. Red Scorpion Says:

    Vinaka Solivakasama,

    “let them eat cake she said, just like Marie Antoinette”

    U see them indulging in their thieving lifestyles, supping on the blood of the people. Meanwhile the common man’s wages have been cut, from direct paycuts, devaluation and inflationary pressures – families are going hungry. It will be a terrible thing when this finally blows over.

    I hope that Aust & NZ keep up their pressure and lobbying behind the scenes to kick our “peacekeepers” out of UN missions. Let them all come back home angry and clean up their own mess at Nabua.

    E sega ni ura me tei damu. We have long memories and the IG will fall, lets make them pay when that time comes, every last one of them.

    We can see above that our troll is employing its same old tactic, seeking to distract us. We will not forget this thievery, murder, persecution etc. What starts off wrong and illegal will always remain so. We will not turn a blind eye to this and forgive them, when the IG especiallly Mara siblings, their backers etc will appeal to the people for mercy and forgiveness. Innocent blood has been spilt, people have lost their homes and livelihoods etc. they must pay for the evil and misery they have unleashed on the people; every last one of them.

  6. Gonei so la e kila Says:

    Budhau,

    At an early age ; scanning the political board I notice something rather strange; Those that are elected to parliament or are re-elected are the same group of self serving people and yet trusted to feel some responsibility for others.
    Its the part of democracy that seems offensive to a simple minded but caring individual.
    Im sorry to say that with FB,at the helm,I had hoped that some small change can be implemented. Nope The air is as thick or even thicker than it was before especially now with judges and ex judges in the mix.

    Its sad . Your comments above is one that i find difficult to live with and my prayer is OUR BELOVED FIJI WILL FIND A GROUP THAT CARES AND SOMEONE AT THE HELM WHO KNOWS WHAT HIS DOING.

  7. Anon. Says:

    @ Gonei so la kila.

    Dark Side Light Side.

    Ignore above Dark Side comment – too cynical – accepts that everyone is the same & that things will never change.
    Assure you now their is such a group & their is such a leader
    – just be patient – getting the pigs away from the trough will take time – but as sure as dawn follows night – its inevitable.

  8. Nostradamus Says:

    From RawFijiNews

    Frank is no different to politicians promoting their own self-preservation
    November 12, 2009
    The qoliqoli bill did have honourable intent to protect traditional Fijian fishing areas from exploitation and I think the wider Fiji community respects that, however, one wonders why this purpose could not be achieved by improved environmental enforcement to result in genuine environmental preservation and sustainability. Pragmatically the bill would have been difficult to administer and did have divisive implications for our society as its consequences where about denying access to “other” none vanua individuals the pleasure of enjoying our nations naturally endowed beauty. Evidently, in SDL’s opinion, being a vulagi in our nation relegates one to being a second class citizen with limited rights and opportunities, because our Fijian brothers and sisters suffer this same stigma in their own land, apparently due to the actions of the uninvited foreigners.

    I would suggest the cause of the appalling statistics that demonstrate the steady and sad demise of our Fijian community is complex and is in need of open, genuine, non- racial and transparent debate to identify the root causes to commence an immediate reformation process. In the long term, it is in our collective best interest to ensure no one community is marginalised from our society, and equal opportunity is there for all being the great goal. However, pandering to a particular electorate with band aid “solutions” such as the qoliqoli bill is, in my view, short sighted.
    Sadly long term growth and prosperity continues to elude Fiji, due in large to our policy makers and leaders not demonstrating true leadership and doing what is required, but instead playing village level politics as Frank is doing now, as was done previously. The evidence suggests, as before, the motivator is self preservation and ones own vested interests’ rather than the greater good of the nation’s prosperity. Increasingly it is becoming plain, Frank and his cohorts do not have a long term strategy and plan as they stumble from issue to issue and compound Fiji’s problems because of impulsive, ill conceived, forcibly imposed reactionary measures. How long will the pressure remain contained is what most are wondering?

    pd12345

  9. Budhau Says:

    I see that Anon and Nostra, the husband and wife team came in with a one two punch here.

    You see Nostra, the RawFijiNews piece above makes sense. The author is trying not hurt the feelings of certain segments of the Fijian community who have been stealing from their own.

    So when the author above states, “The qoliqoli bill did have honourable intent….” that is saying that the SDL SOBs had their eyes on the QoliQoli money, that is, right after they had cashed in on the mahogany, they would move into the QoliQoli cash.

    Regarding the bill, when the author says it had no “..intent to protect traditional Fijian fishing areas from exploitation and I think the wider Fiji community respects that.” she is partially right – yes, the bill had nothing to do with the rights of the indigenous, just the coups we have had before – no gives a crap about indigenous rights – that is how it has been successive Fijian administrations – however, the author is wrong when she suggests that the wider Fiji community respects that – yes, many in Fiji do respect the move to better the life of the poor rural Fijians – but some of these same Fijians would turn around and vote the SDL back into power – because of the Indian bogey man.

    Overall, the above piece from RFN is a really good piece – I think the idiot Nostradamus just did not get it…that is why he posted it in here.

    Yes Nostra, Frank and his people do not have long term solutions for specific problems – no one expects them to have those solutions – we all want them to get out of the way once the elecroral reforms are completed and a new election is help in 2014 or hopefully earlier. One would expect them to deal with one issue at a time, the best they can.
    We all expect the new elected government to deal with any changes to the new constitution that would be put into place by these guys – incremental changes. I am sure that it will be the new government that will deal with the long term Qoli Qoli issues, land lease issue, saving the sugar industry, if it can be saved and the rest.

    I think you idiots should start attacking the article above as being anti-SDL and therefore being anti-Fijian, and anti Tui Savu…..probably written a vulangi with that subtle attack on the SDL.

    As to how “long the pressure would remain contained”. I think most folks are willing to sit it through til 2014 and see how things go – unless the economy totally collapses. After that, the long term problems don’t addressed and the military insists in staying in power – then the pressure may begin to build up to the point that things may not be contained.

    Gonei so la e kila – I think you expected too much from Frank – this coup, like all others, was a simple grab for power.
    The important thing now is to figure out how we get out of this and have a society that is better than what we had under Qarase and the previous governments without doing any serious damage to our country.

    You see, when your hand is stuck under a rock – you slowly ease it out, without applying to much pressure. Unless of course you are on a reef and the tide is coming in – then you chop off you hand and save your life.

    The way I see it, we are in a position where we can slowly ease that hand out from under the rock. It is not time to chop off the hand – not yet.

  10. Anon. Says:

    @ Bud.

    Didn’t see you at the remembrance day ceremony?

    Oh thats right – you people don’t think Viti’s worth fighting for.

  11. Budhau Says:

    BTW – you think Viti is worth fighting for now? Or Frank might make you run around in your underwear around the rugby field.

    You go do that I will be there for your remembrance next week.

    BTW – no one fighting for Viti – those british would not even allow the Fijian in their army in WW1 – because they felt that these coloured folks were inferior to them. In WW11, they would not give equal pay to “coloured” crowd for the same reason. And in Malaya – we ended on the wrong side- the were not communist terrorist, they were fighting for indigenous rights.

    Now, when you should really stand up and be counted – you buggers are out here blogging.

    Blog on Ragone.

  12. Gonei so la e kila Says:

    Budhau;

    You are correct about my expectations of FB”s coup but i don’t think that its genesis was as simple as you put it.
    I am of the opinion that that there was some real worrying issues with the previous government like the borrowing that was getting out of control,the ridiculous size of the cabinet,a few funny and a few not so funny business here and their in the SDL bandwagon that was academical.
    For future reference, we must learn that, we, construct a platform of change by ensuring that we wash our hands clean first. Only then will we find the fruit of our work free of fungal contaminants . You see Budhau;Its the fungal contaminants that is the glue /weight on the rock.
    Our hands are for working and our brains to think and we must work to live

  13. Anon. Says:

    @ Bud.

    Thats what it all comes down to with you people – sum of your existance -money.

  14. Budhau Says:

    Anon – who said anything about money – but now that were are on the subject of money, I tend to respect those folks that make their money the old fashion way – they EARN it.
    Unlike those Ratus and some of the elites who seem to believe that making money the old fashion way means you STEAL it.

    Gonei so la e kila – I agree with you on most of what you have to say.
    I think that one reason we have not seen a out pouring of support for Qarase and the SDL i s that “clean hands” issue that we mentioned – I think people believe that the SDL and Qarase while in power had acted unethically or in bad faith as a government – thus they do not have “clean hands”

  15. bai kei viti Says:

    Having read your folks comments this morning reminds me of the word of proffessies in this last days, all of whats happening now is basically for people of Fiji to realise its to do with the full fillment of prophessies. What is happening in Fiji now is a global exercise by the beast himself and his diciples and there is nothing we can do about it, whether you like it or not, it will come and all we need to do is to turn to god to save us.

    For us who understand a bit about world financing and how its being structured, whats happening in our very faces is being engineered from PAPAL ROME and its policies and implementation part will be fronted by no other then the US which is the image of the beast.

    The breaking down of our Fijian structures is nothing new and it was prophesied already and we are not surprised that FB have made trips already to Rome to be sealed if I can say…I am not being sceptical here but these are the facts and is the truth of what is happening in Fiji.

    My only advice to the people of Fiji is, please revitatilise your sprititual life and fall back on Jesus to save you and your family.

    From us Fijians living overseas, there is a website: http://www.mahanaimsda.org.fj has some recorded versions of Mr Ramisese Tamani’s MESSAGE of this last last days and if you are in Suva, I do suggest that you attend his current REVELATION SEMINAR which is being telecasted live till the 21st of Nov 09. You will never be dissappointed it the message of today and its all about the TRUTH..I do recommend strongly that we join this new movement in order to save the people of Fiji.

    Ni moce

  16. Gonei so la e kila Says:

    Budhau,
    Im hoping that you’re making some progress with FB whilst ypu’re there and when i see that you are ,i will write and thank you.

  17. senijiale Says:

    Chuckling @ your analogy Bud –

    “You see, when your hand is stuck under a rock – you slowly ease it out, without applying to much pressure. Unless of course you are on a reef and the tide is coming in – then you chop off you hand and save your life”

    Duh! Its even better if I’m stuck on the reef with my hand stuck under a rock. Then all I hve to do is wait patiently for the tide to come in and let the waves hammer the rock until we both force it off my hand then all i hve to do is leisurely swim back to the shore. Tah dah!

    But m worried bout you my friend since u’re bent on cutting off yr precious hand.. either way u get screwed i.e. you’ll definitely drown trying to swim ashore with one hand or a shark will get your ass before your u reach the shore. Then it will be Moce Jo.

  18. senijiale Says:

    Chuckling @ your analogy Bud

    “You see, when your hand is stuck under a rock – you slowly ease it out, without applying to much pressure. Unless of course you are on a reef and the tide is coming in – then you chop off you hand and save your life”

    Duh! That’s even better if I’m stuck on the reef with my hand stuck under a rock. Then all I hve to do is wait patiently for the tide to come in and let the waves hammer the rock until we both force it off my hand then all i hve to do is leisurely swim back to the shore. Tah dah!

    But m worried bout you my friend since u’re bent on cutting off yr precious hand.. either way u get screwed i.e. you’ll definitely drown trying to swim ashore with one hand or a shark will get your ass before your u reach the shore. Then it’l really be Moce Jo.

  19. C.I.A Says:

    Senijiale
    Thanks I thought we were on the same page!! definately am not F.I.RM

  20. C.I.A Says:

    It appears that fire has started at the Navy base in Walu bay Suva. posted 5 minutes ago

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  21. senijiale Says:

    Kemudou sa baci tu!!

    U deleted my posts (again) on SWM board last night didn’t you?? Get some help boy coz u ain’t gonna find it here.

  22. Verani. Says:

    Fiji Times editorial staff sure have short memories. Todays SFT editorial claims Nailatikau is man of the people – charming and polite?
    Maybe that old ugly expat Editor has something going with him?

  23. hari Says:

    Annon, what Vatukoula trust fund were you reffering to? Just that it sound interesting if there was one for the i taukei ni qele?

  24. C.I.A Says:

    Budhau
    Question Bud.Hows your weekend?

  25. this is navoha Says:

    ?

  26. Budhau Says:

    CIA –
    Question CIA – did you get some last night?

  27. C.I.A Says:

    Yeh caught some fish of Suva harbour

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  29. C.I.A Says:

    On Sunday Gates held a media conference and read a long statement, attacking the role of New Zealand and Australia for what he……

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  30. Soko Says:

    CIA:

    Well its nigh on impossible to catch fish off suva harbour but crabs of the sea wall good possibility.

  31. this is navoha Says:

    Aiyaz Khaiyum’s qoliqoli bill 2009(copy n paste from raw fiji)

    November 12, 2009
    We all remember that the Qoliqoli bill was one of the main reasons put forward by Frank Bainimarama for his seditious threats against the Qarase led multi-party government in 2006.

    Bainimarama saw an opportunity and jumped on the hysterical outcry against the bill. We were told it would cripple tourism and rob all non-Fijian citizens of rights they had enjoyed from birth.

    It was obvious that it was an emotional minefield. On the one side, we had Fijians who, since the first Great Council of Chiefs meeting, had demanded the recognition of traditional fishing rights. On the other side, non-Fijians felt they would be stripped of rights they had enjoyed since birth.

    The BBC quoted a businessman, Ashneel Singh, who said “Many of us Indians support the military commander and many of the indigenous Fijians support the democracy. But Indians had serious problems with the proposals put forward by the democratically elected Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase. He wanted to allocate the ownership of coastal land to the indigenous Fijians.”

    But the fact was that the bill was poorly understood.

    The bill transferred ownership rights over coastal areas held by the state to “traditional owners”. But it did so with important many caveats. For example, any rights that had been conceded by the state to others were not affected. No-one could lose any right to which they were already entitled.

    Section 8 of the bill said that “the exclusive possession conferred by section 6(1), does not affect any legal rights and interests duly granted or obtained by virtue of this Act or any other written law.”

    Similarly, the idea that all beaches would be closed was a myth.

    In fact, what the bill said was: “The exclusive possession conferred by section 6 shall not be construed as affecting the right of members of the public to have free and undisturbed access within the qoliqoli areas for the purpose of non-commercial recreational activities”.

    Members of the public could still access the beaches freely for their own personal enjoyment.

    Commercial fisheries were another matter. Anyone who wanted to charge tourists to snorkel on a reef would have to seek the permission of reef owners to do so, but I could take my boat to a reef and fish happily.

    One complication is the fact that there has been informal recognition of qoliqoli rights for many years. Problems have arisen when outsiders have blundered in without recognizing the feelings involved here. The Qoliqoli bill was designed to bring and end to such problems.

    One great irony in this whole complex problem is that the American owner of Turtle island, Richard Evanson, who funded Epeli Ganilau’s unsuccessful 2006 election attempt in order to defeat the Qoliqoli bill, has long advertised his “private beaches on Turtle Island, which, for a fee, he’ll make available to guests for their private enjoyment. The fact is that the law in Fiji does not recognize “private beaches”.

    Even the Qoliqoli bill would not disturb the rights on members of the public to enjoy free access to Turtle Island’s so-called private beaches. There are no private beaches. Evanson was opposing the transfer to traditional owners of a right he didn’t have.

    So has the dictator suddenly understood that the Qoliqoli bill was not as disastrous as he thought?

    May be the dictator’s announcement of a review of the Qoliqoli legislation is the start of his campaign to rebuild support within the Fijian community. That’s the view of fellow democracy blogger, Intelligentsiya.

    Frank’s announcement of the regime’s decision “said that there is discontent among Qoliqoli rights owners on the use of their fishing rights without fair and just compensation.”

    But then again, he’s going to provide a solution that will provide certainty for investors interested in foreshore development.

    He knows Fijians will never be happy until traditional fishing rights are recognised but even his tiny brain is capable of remembering his grand stand in 2006 telling the Qarase Government they had to withdraw the Qoliqoli bill.

    The theory of “reporters” that Frank’s being manipulated by someone else is probably close to the truth. The only question is who is pulling the strings this time.

    If it’s Aiyaz, what does he hope to achieve?

    Frank’s walking into a minefield here. Let’s hope his foot finds one very soon.

    Navosavakadua

  32. Soko Says:

    Who is this Navosavakadua?

    The native qoliqoli is entrenched in various statutes and therefore there isnt really a need for a seperate Act.

    However that said there a various mataqalis in Fiji without qoliqoli rights and these mataqali’s ought to be afforded the same customary rights as others.

  33. Soko Says:

    Not all Fijian’s are created equal except if you are among the elitist of society hence the reason why this bill was legislated, to facilitate and expend the wealth of a selected few.

  34. Anti-censoreship Says:

    Cool! I found a way to get rid of the censorship in Fiji!

  35. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Just checking in

    Sa va cava jiko koratou na nodatou Mobsters

    Fiji’s Mobsters sa va cava jiko …

    Holiday season keeps me on my toes; hardly time to read and comment BUT need to check in anyway lest they forget I have not changed my position on our (Fiji’s) criminally inclined Gang robbing the country blind.

  36. Budhau Says:

    Hey guys, what this administration is doing is looking at the compensation the the QoliQoli owners receive.

    The reason they are looking at this is because the compensation regulations were done in the early seventies and the regime feels that it is time we revisited that issue.

    This has nothing to do with what Qarase was trying to do with his bill.

    What some of you buggers should be more concerned about is what the ordinary Fijians receive from the Qoliqoli and if you have a problem with this then this would be the time to raise those issues while the payout structure is being addressed – who get what.

    How much of that money goes to the big chiefs and what trickles down to below the Turanga ni Mataqali.

    I thought it was funny when Ratu Naiqama Lalabalavu made a statement in the media that the Qoliqoli money would now be spent on educating poor Fijians. So where do you think all that money from the fishing licenses and the pearl farming went up till now.
    I will tell you were it went – went out as “loans” and hosting parties for the provincial events.

    Rather than dealing with the real issues – some of you would rather jump on Aiyaaz.

    As for the author at RFN who wrote, “There are no private beaches. Evanson was opposing the transfer to traditional owners of a right he didn’t have.”

    Come on guys – don’t you think that Evason and his lawyers have not done their research as what the real property and land laws are in Fiji. As far as beaches are concerned that law in Fiji is no different than the English common law.
    ..and this Navosavakadua runs around at the RFN as some expert commentator.

    The guy wrote, “…..informal recognition of qoliqoli rights for many years” – informal my ass – why don’t this dude go read the Fisheries Act for the “formal” recognition.

    The guy writes, “So has the dictator suddenly understood that the Qoliqoli bill was not as disastrous as he thought?”

    You idiot – what is being discussed now is the compensation received by the QoliQoli owners – they are not discussing Qarase’s bill or what was proposed in that bill.

    Why can’t you guys find some well educated, intelligent, unbiased commentators – who will honestly look at some news, look at both sides of the story and then make comments.

    BTW – the Fijian people ain’t stupid and they will see through this propaganda at RFN….writing more objective pieces who give you anti-regime crowd some credibility.

    It can’t be that hard to make a honest, convincing case against the regime without resorting to this name calling and the crap.

  37. Soko Says:

    Bud.

    Isnt this fellow “Navosavakadua” the one a same Tui Savu.

  38. Talei Tabusoro Says:

    RFN posted interviews of the dumbass Vo. You people’s leader slash dictator is the stupidest Fijian alive. Dictator Vo is an embarrassment to the Fijian race. What a stupid! stupid man.

  39. Navosavakadua Says:

    @ Soko

    You ask who is this Navosavakadua? He’s the blogger who quoted specific sections of the Qoliqoli bill. He didn’t just assert that the Qoliqoli bill did this or that, he showed where and how it made provisions for wider recognition of Qoliqoli.

    You tell us the qoliqoli is entrenched in various pieces of legislation. Which pieces and where?

    If you know, you’d better tell Frank because he looks like he wants to do something qoliqoli but doesn’t have a clue what it is he wants to do. All he knows is that the issue is a hot one in the Fijian community.

  40. Soko Says:

    Navosavakadu or Tui Savu:

    I will make this statement very brief firstly nowhere have I said nor affirmed any sort of allegiance to this regime.

    Secondly whilst this qoliqoli bill is impugnable you and ilks do have the
    proclivity to pervert most if not all significant issues mendaciously.

    Thirdly I will reiterate this for the last time all habitual rights regarding foreshore, seabed continental- self and riverbed among other things fishing rights is enshrined in several statute law’s.

    While this qoliqoli bill is the conjugation of all the aforesaid it would be in the interest of all concerned that these statute law’s remain in the hands of the state.

    Finally whilst Fiji is currently in a state of nihilism and without a democratic government the question needs to be asked to whose benefit is this qoliqoli bill if it’s not the people?

  41. Navosavakadua Says:

    @Budhau

    Against my better judgment I will answer some of the garbage you’ve spread about Qoliqoli.

    Private beaches – Fiji law does in fact follow British law, which also does not recognize private beaches. The foreshore is owned by the Crown, ie it’s PUBLIC land.

    If you look at Section 21 of the Crown Lands Act this is obvious. This section protects “public rights” whenever lease is granted on the foreshore which is owned by the Crown.

    “21.-(1) No lease of any Crown foreshore land or of any soil under the waters of Fiji shall be made without the express approval of the Minister and such approval shall not be granted unless the Minister declares that such lease does not create a substantial infringement of public rights.”

    Informal recognition of Fijian traditions has long been practiced, even when not written in law, in relation to qoliqoli and in other matters. It’s obvious that you know little and care less about these customs, but there are many others that do, including the Indo-Fijian neighbours of many Fijian villages.

    It beats me why you still defend Frank Bainimarama. I know Qoliqoli is dear to your heart because your Lord and Master, the now silent MPC, used it to great effect to stir up race-based fears, but you don’t seem to understand that Frank’s aim is to hold on to power and he’ll dish out Qoliqoli rights if it suits him. Get ready for many other bids at building a Fijian support base. He’s ready to go around dishing out money in villages just like he’s used the shrinking government coffers to fill the pockets of his race-based military force.

    @Soko

    Show me where all of the Qoliqoli rights are enshrined in other legislation. Name the Acts and the sections pis. It sounds like your repeating propaganda without knowing all the facts.

  42. this is navoha Says:

    @ Bai kei viti….thanks bro for your piece of u are exactly saying the truth.

    i ve posted numerous comment regarding the real truth about the qoliqoli bill….but has not appeared….it seems the US is monitoring this site with Budhau vakamedre wanisiwa tiko.

  43. this is navoha Says:

    solivakasama dou veicai mada kei america

  44. this is navoha Says:

    @ Soko, dear readers & our military brothers

    The main purpose of the Qoliqoli Bill was to revert the land under sea bed back to the indigenious Fijian.At the moment 6ft under sea bed belongs to the state.

    As u may read in my earlier posting, i highlighted the article written by Robert Matau in the Fiji Times 2008 when he interview the Tui Cakau Ratu Naiqama Lalabalavu. The Tui Cakau explain to Mr Matau that the main reason for Qoliqoli Bill was to revert that land under the sea back into the indigenous Fijian and extract the minerals.

  45. this is navoha Says:

    Well as u may not know by now, anything that is under the state (Fiji Government) belongs to World Bank and IMF as collateral security.When Fiji was ceded to great Britain, we were colonised by them & they directly ruled us.

    However when we became independent, the world bank step in & offered million dollar loans for infrustructure & etc like the Monasavu Dam…but state land was held as a security attached with several conditions that the Government of the day had to abide with.So we became colonised again in an indirect way. which we may call NEO-COLONIALISM. For your information, the biggest shareholder of the World Bank & IMF is America & who actually appoints the president & dictates all their policy.

  46. this is navoha Says:

    sorry folks i cant post further comments about what really is under the sea bed cos this fucken american dont want me too.

  47. this is navoha Says:

    ok what is so important about reverting the land under the seabed back to the Fijians as stated in the Qoliqoli Bill?

  48. this is navoha Says:

    its the oil

  49. this is navoha Says:

    vosota ratou sega NI VINAKATA MEU VAKARAITAKA NA DINA…AU SA POST VA VICA E SEGA NI RAWA…KOYA KINA I VE TO POST IT IN SEGMENTS, U PEOPLE COMPILE N READ

  50. this is navoha Says:

    few paragraphs missing cos its so sensitive to this asshole

  51. this is navoha Says:

    solivakasama & u fucken american monitoring this site u wont touch our oil

  52. this is navoha Says:

    the new embassy in tamavua was built to administrate our oil,very soon they will declare fiji bankrupt & take over cos of our debt to the world bank

  53. this is navoha Says:

    .well dear readers & our dear brothers in Delai Nabua, the main reason is that a report compiled by the SOPAC(formerly Ministry of Mineral Resouce in Delai nabua) in the late 1970s found huge amount of oil under our seabed estimating to fill up millions barrel of Oil.

    That report was headed by then the Minister of Land in the Alliance party the Late Mr Ratu Ovini Bokini and presented to the late Ratu Mara & the parliament.

    Actually Exxon, Shell and two other oil companies had carried out oil exploration in the 1970s & 1980s along the Bau Basin & Bligh Waters & found huge reserve of oil. However in 1987 few months before the May 19 coup 1987 all those companies were told to leave & license not renewed.

    2004, the late Ratu Ovini Bokini raised the idea of reverting that land under sea bed into the hands of Fijians to Mr Qarase, so oil can be extracted & Fiji become one of richest nation in the Pacific.That was main reason the Qoliqoli Bill was proposed.

    What happened to the Qoliqoli Bill? …the military campaigned against the bill & thats the main reason why Bainimarama carried out the coup in 2006 under the direction of America.

    Why America?…as I have stated earlier the seabed is held as a security to the World bank & IMF because it’s under the state & whatever is under world bank & IMF belongs to America.

    So what might to happen to Fiji?….well i believe the America might take over the country & oil & declare that Fiji is bankrupt. As u may see that they already have a new Embassy in Tamavua, maybe for the administration of oil.

    What we should do? ….tell America to back off their hands on our oil but offer them a deal to become partners in the extraction of oil, that 10% to America for repayment of loan & 90% indigenous Fijian. Its better to side with the Americans than to be under the hands of the China.

  54. this is navoha Says:

    That report was headed by then the Minister of Land in the Alliance party the Late Mr Ratu Ovini Bokini and presented to the late Ratu Mara & the parliament.

    Actually Exxon, Shell and two other oil companies had carried out oil exploration in the 1970s & 1980s along the Bau Basin & Bligh Waters & found huge reserve of oil. However in 1987 few months before the May 19 coup 1987 all those companies were told to leave & license not renewed.

    2004, the late Ratu Ovini Bokini raised the idea of reverting that land under sea bed into the hands of Fijians to Mr Qarase, so oil can be extracted & Fiji become one of richest nation in the Pacific.That was main reason the Qoliqoli Bill was proposed.

    What happened to the Qoliqoli Bill? …the military campaigned against the bill & thats the main reason why Bainimarama carried out the coup in 2006 under the direction of America.

    Why America?…as I have stated earlier the seabed is held as a security to the World bank & IMF because it’s under the state & whatever is under world bank & IMF belongs to America.

    So what might to happen to Fiji?….well i believe the America might take over the country & oil & declare that Fiji is bankrupt. As u may see that they already have a new Embassy in Tamavua, maybe for the administration of oil.

    What we should do? ….tell America to back off their hands on our oil but offer them a deal to become partners in the extraction of oil, that 10% to America for repayment of loan & 90% indigenous Fijian. Its better to side with the Americans than to be under the hands of the China.

  55. this is navoha Says:

    the report was compiled by SOPAC(formely Ministry of Land & mineral resource) in the late 70s.

  56. hari Says:

    Interesting, hopefully this is not another one of budhau pschological warfare pun?

  57. SViade~ Says:

    @ this is Navoha….

    I have always wondered about a very “profound statement” made by a HIGH PRIEST (KAHUNA) in HAWAII(1998) he said to some Fijians,” DO YOU FIJIANS KNOW THAT ONE DAY THE WORLD BANK WILL SIT IN FIJI.”

  58. Budhau Says:

    Navosavakadua – I will go through the crap that you posted in yur last post and try and identify the several issue that raised. I will limit the scope of this discussion to those specific issues.

    ISSUE 1 – Do you seriously believe that Evanson is not aware of the land laws in Fiji and somehow believes that his beaches are “private”. That is what idiots like you and those others at RFN have been implying.

    As I told you before, the laws relating to the beaches is based on the English common law. You seem to agree with that. So you and I seem to know that there are no “private” beaches in Fiji and you seem to suggest that this Evason guys, who has some top lawyers on his board of directors, he somehow believes that we have “private” beaches in Fiji.

    It is OK for the idiots in here to ridicule Evason, but you seem to be a intelligent guy – do you honestly believe that Evason mistakenly believes that his beaches are “private” – so cut out that crap. The laws are very simple – State land runs from high water mark out.

    BTW – trying to impress us with quoting the various sections of the Statute – very impressive. However, I had already given you the common law basis for our statutory laws.

    ISSUE 2 – You wrote, “Informal recognition of Fijian traditions has long been practiced, even when not written in law, in relation to qoliqoli and in other matters. It’s obvious that you know little and care less about these customs, but there are many others that do, including the Indo-Fijian neighbours of many Fijian villages.”

    You are WRONG – there are written laws (statutes) that address the Qoliqoli. I will ignore the rest of crap about me not being sensitive to the Fijians customs and those other crap that you posted.

    Here is where we have “formal” recognition as opposed to what you claimed as “informal recognition.” – and it is in writing

    Fisheries Act section 13.
    13. (1) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Rivers and Streams Act, it shall be an offence for any person to take fish on any reef or on any kai (cockle) or other shellfish bed in any area in respect of which the rights of any mataqali or other division or subdivision of the Fijian people have been registered by the Native Fisheries Commission in the Register of Native Customary Fishing Rights unless he shall be a member of such mataqali, division or subdivision of the Fijian people who does not require a licence under section 5 to take such fish or shall first have obtained a permit to do so from the Commissioner of the Division in which such area is situated: (Cap 136)

    Provided that-
    (a) such permits shall not be necessary in the case of persons taking fish (other than by way of trade or business or as the employee of a person carrying on the trade or business of a fisherman) with hook and line or with a spear or portable fish trap which can be handled by one person; and
    (b) any such permit may exclude fishing for particular species of fish, or may exclude fishing in any particular areas, or may exclude fishing by any particular methods, or may contain any combination of such exclusions.

    (2) The grant of a permit shall be in the discretion of such Commissioner who shall consult the Fisheries Officer and the subdivision of the Fijian people whose fishing rights may be affected thereby, prior to granting the same.

    (3) A permit may be granted for any period not exceeding three years, but every such permit shall expire on the 31st day of December in any one of such years.
    (Section substituted by 26 of 1964. s.6.)

    ISSUE 3: You wrote, “I know Qoliqoli is dear to your heart because your Lord and Master, the now silent MPC, used it to great effect to stir up race-based fears, but you don’t seem to understand that Frank’s aim is to hold on to power and he’ll dish out Qoliqoli rights if it suits him.”

    So let us look at Mahendra Chaudary’s record on Qoliqoli.
    At the GCC meeting in 1982 at Bau, there was a discussion of they discussed the Qoliqoli – and the Chiefs decided to approach the government for a legislation addressing the Qoliqoli issue. The government of the day did shit.
    In late 1999 the FLP Cabinet approved the proposal to give legislative effect to the decision of the GCC at Bau in 1982. And if Speight and Company had not couped Chaudary for the “indigenous rights” crap, we would have had this QoliQoli legislation a long time ago.
    So don’t give me this crap that Chaudary was using this Qoliqoli issue to stir up race based fears. Idiots like you should ask what happened to Qoliqoli bill under the successive Fijian government from 1982 to 2006.

    SUMMARY:
    1) it is silly to ridicule Evason that he believes that there are private beaches in Fiji.
    2) There was statutes that recognize the Qoliqoli.
    3) Chaudhary did not use Qoliqoli to stir up racial shit – on the contrary the FLP cabinet in 1999 and agree to give legislative effect to what was decidd by the GCC in 1982 at their meeting at Bau.

    How can guys keep shoveling these lies and shit in these forum – and ther are many in Fiji who buy into this crap.

    BTW – if you chose to respond to this – please keep your discussion focused on the issues.

  59. this is navoha Says:

    Why top nations are now interested on our oil?

    “The Hubbert Curve is used to predict the rate of production from an oil producing region containing many individual wells. Source: aspoitalia.net

    In the 1950s the well known U.S. geologist M. King Hubbert was working for Shell Oil. He noted that oil discoveries graphed over time tended to follow a bell shape curve. He supposed that the rate of oil production would follow a similar curve, now known as the Hubbert Curve (see figure). In 1956 Hubbert predicted that production from the US lower 48 states would peak between 1965 and 1970. Despite efforts from his employer to pressure him into not making his projections public, the notoriously stubborn Hubbert did so anyway. In any case, most people inside and outside the industry quickly dismissed the predictions. As it happens, the US lower 48 oil production did peak in 1970/1. In that year, by definition, US oil producers had never produced as much oil, and Hubbert’s predictions were a fading memory.

    The peak was only acknowledged with the benefit of several years of hindsight.
    No oil producing region fits the bell shaped curve exactly because production is dependent on various geological, economic and political factors, but the Hubbert Curve remains a powerful predictive tool.

    In retrospect, the U.S. oil peak might be seen as the most significant geopolitical event of the mid to late 20th Century, creating the conditions for the energy crises of the 1970s, leading to far greater U.S. strategic emphasis on controlling foreign sources of oil, and spelling the beginning of the end of the status of the U.S. as the world’s major creditor nation. The U.S. of course, was able to import oil from elsewhere. Mounting debt has allowed life to continue in the U.S. with only minimal interruption so far. When global oil production peaks, the implications will be felt far more widely, and with much more force.

    So when will oil peak globally?

    Later in life M. King Hubbert predicted a global oil peak between 1995 and 2000. He may have been close to the mark, except that the oil shocks of the 1970s slowed the growth of our use of oil.
    As represented in the following figure, global oil discovery peaked in the late 1960s. Since the mid-1980s, oil companies have been finding less oil than we have been consuming.

    Of the 65 largest oil producing countries in the world, up to 54 have passed their peak of production and are now in decline, including the USA in 1970, Indonesia in 1997, Australia in 2000, the UK in 1999, Norway in 2001, and Mexico in 2004. Hubbert’s methods, as well as other methodologies, have been used to make various projections about the global oil peak, with results ranging from ‘already peaked’, to the very optimistic 2035”

    http://www.energybulletin.net

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