THE DUMB IG IS TRYING TO DUMB DOWN THE NATION TO THEIR LEVEL

There are calls for the Pacific Island News Association (PINA) to move its newswire service out of Fiji to avoid the military government’s tough censorship policies.

Fiji’s interim regime says because the newswire service Pacnews is based in Suva, it must abide by the censorship being enforced on all local media.

In response, Pacnews has refused to include any stories on Fiji.

Pacnews is owned by the PINA, and PINA has indicated it does not want it to move.
But at a media freedom forum in Samoa, news executives and academics from around the region have called on it to relocate.

The future of Pacnews, including its possible relocation, is to be discussed when PINA meets in July in Vanuatu.

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47 Responses to “THE DUMB IG IS TRYING TO DUMB DOWN THE NATION TO THEIR LEVEL”

  1. bodyguard Says:

    its a sad day when these regional bodies are debating whether to go or stay.

    i hope & pray.

    to the soldiers – o na tarogi kina.

  2. OjO Says:

    Whilst we free to opine it seems certain dissenting cliques of people find it difficult to reconcile reality, the fact is they have adopted a rather spurious dichotomy where the assumption is anything not good for them is deemed to be evil and contrariwise.

    The minority who opposes recent occurrences has unfortunately for reasons known only to them developed convergent strabismus or a skewed perception they are delusive in their expectations and adopt a position where they gravitate towards consequences that has an impact on their very being.

    The effect is severe in which it arousers their insensibilities and creates a dichotomy between us and them for this us and them mentality is catastrophic in a multiracial and cultural society and spifflicates the modern construct of a pluralistic society.

    These types of people appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of their ilk’s they are often invective and inveigh against a pluralistic society yet within the hierarchical structure of Fijian systems they pervert and bastardise their own.

    They are the most dishonourable of beings.

  3. Budhau Says:

    Yeap – they should move to Samoa and they can take the Forum folks with them. Maybe the Chinese can pay for their new building.

    Why should Frank wait till July when they will meet to decide on the move – Frank should kick their ass out of Fiji right now.

  4. Jean d'Ark Says:

    OjO!

    According to Li Xiguang, “Genius is the ability to make complex issues simple to understand”.

    You have done the exact opposite – so what does that say about your opaque comment, above?

  5. Dau Says:

    Bud, some of our people would like Frank to do just that. But FB, being the cool dude he is, is just gonna let them kick themselves out. The Forum has already shot itself in the foot, now to they’re trying to get back to negotation with our Govt through the side door. Netani Rika did not only shoot himself in the foot, he’s gone and shot himself in the mouth as well. ( in Samoa). We’re all looking for a way foward for our beloved Fiji where all the people of Fiji can live together in peace. We need the right man for the job and thats FB. Frank is the leader who Knows the way, Goes the way, and Shows the way. God Bless Fiji.

  6. Jean d'Ark Says:

    Dau!

    Do you think that the paid comments of RFMF media cell ghost-writers on the Blogs actually count for anything?

    Nobody can be sure if what you have written is your real opinion because you have been ordered to say it, and you are expressly forbidden to think for yourself. So these glove-puppet statements made for the sole purpose of manipulation and psyops have no moral inertia whatsoever.

    When you say things like “We’re all looking for a way foward for our beloved Fiji where all the people of Fiji can live together in peace”, that is about as ho-hum as it can be.

  7. OjO Says:

    Jd’Ark:

    There’s neither a point nor an argument to be had quoting Professor Li a person who is well versed in the English language but significantly a person who espouses western journalistic ideals yet duplicitous this person advocates communistic ideals and is deficient in virtuousness.

    While you may find my comment abstruse and illegible I make no apologies.

    Now take this quote from one of the greatest statesman Fiji had it requires a certain amount of excogitation.

    “We are the High Chiefs of these islands. We are the leaders of the people. On us is the duty of pointing out to them the right course. Bear this in mind. We have to lead on two points- hold back those who advocate radical changes (for which we are not sufficiently educated) and enliven the laggards before their ignorance destroys us.” (Ratu Sukuna)

  8. Dau Says:

    Jean,…..Moral inertia is subjective to individual values and perceptions. You have your way, I have my way…. As for the right way, the correct way and the only way? Who knows!, You have your answer,I have mine. Your ho hum is subjective to you, not me. We can’t change the direction of the wind but we need to adjust our sails to always reach our destination. May God bless us all…Sleep well.

  9. Jean d'Ark Says:

    Actually Dau, you don’t have any “way”. Your way is to do as you are ordered.

    There is no bona fide in it. There is nothing heartfelt in it. It doesn’t mean anything other than what it is – the Machiavellian trying to dress up as the sincere.

    Nothing more than a forced march by automatons conditioned not to think, to an illusory destination pre-determined by officers who don’t know how to think.

  10. Jean d'Ark Says:

    OjO,

    Okay, so now explain to us how precisely does your Sukuna quote have the faintest relevance to what we are actually seeing in Fiji today?

    How exactly are laggards being enlivened by the Regime’s garbage decision-making? And how are we being held back from radical change when that is purportedly the very purpose of the Charter?

  11. Asgrocky Says:

    While you are at it explain also why the cover page on the proposed charter is covered in Ba’aal Hadad. They are symbols of ancient eastern religions and sun worship. Demonic and deceptive in its nature. What exactly is Teleni preaching and why is Teleni evangelising in his line of duty as a policeman. What is this illegal regime hiding? What are they not telling the people. What of the medals they were awarded recently. Where did that come from and why were they awarded? Who are they working for?

  12. OjO Says:

    Jd’Ark:

    What is important to note is the fact that particular quote was applicable back than as it is now; it was aphorised during Ratu Sukuna’s address in 1936 to the GCC?

    What is also important to note he had a sense of prognosticating the future hence the reasons of cautioning his chiefs, those were the days up until the 1970’s where chiefs were subservient to their people?

    Those that operate on the periphery of society like yourself need to reconcile reality for you and your chiefs are the very laggards that are destroying society by advocating radical changes (nationalistic ideals).

    The nationalistic ideals of the past are assigned to the scrap heap you all now need to embrace an inclusive rather than an exclusive society.
    I than go back to my initial comment to complement that quote.

    “The minority who opposes recent occurrences has unfortunately for reasons known only to them developed convergent strabismus or a skewed perception they are delusive in their expectations and adopt a position where they gravitate towards consequences that has an impact on society and their very being.

    The effect is severe in which it arousers their insensibilities and creates a dichotomy between us and them for this us and them mentality is catastrophic in a multiracial and cultural society and spifflicates the modern construct of a pluralistic society.

    These types of people appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of their ilk’s they are often invective and inveigh against a pluralistic society yet within the hierarchical structure of Fijian systems they pervert and bastardise their own”

    Now either you are overcredulous or just simply brainsick to understand all ills of recent times are the marking of overzealous thieves and corruptive behaviour’s of Chiefs and politicians something for which Ratu Sukuna had foreboded.

    Good Day.

  13. Asgrocky Says:

    I know SV has moved on from here but its still interesting reading just for the record.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/oct2008/fiji-o10.shtml

  14. Jean d'Ark Says:

    OjO!

    You didn’t explain a thing. You’ve merely switched propaganda tactics.

    All you did was to augment Dau/Mak’59’s media cell tactical brief of “we know something you don’t know” conspiracy hinting, with sheer gobbledygook!

    You have now take three comments to say precisely nothing!

    Any soldier or person who would allow themselves to be impressed by that is just fooling themselves.

  15. meme Says:

    there you go again!!

  16. Asgrocky Says:

    Go get them Jean
    You are exposing the parrots of the IG. Hold tight for a ride on the merry- go-round. Cheers.

  17. Budhau Says:

    Hey guys, please stop ganging up on Jean.

    I like Jean’s comment, “When you say things like “We’re all looking for a way forward for our beloved Fiji where all the people of Fiji can live together in peace”, that is about as ho-hum as it can be.”

    Come on Jean – isn’t that what this is all about FIJI – THE WAY THE WORLD SHOULD BE.

    Whats wrong with wanting to live happily ever after – as long as we have a indigenous Fijian Government.

    God Bless Fiji.

  18. Jean d'Ark Says:

    Bud!

    Yeah – everybody does. Real people anyway. But how to do?

    It is ho-hum when “voiced” by these pretend contributors because they simply aren’t real. All they are trying to do is make out that the yen and desire for that future is carte blanche to break fundamental principles in the meantime.

    Can’t happen that way though, Bud – karma remember? Karma! Or for any Teleni apprentices reading:

    “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he WILL also reap” Gal 6:7

  19. Budhau Says:

    Jane, you really believe in this – that whatever you sow by your action comes back to you.

    If you do, than this explains it all – what is happening now is payback time for the sins of 1987.

    Do you think that those who were around in 1987, they did what they thought the Lord would do if He knew the facts. If we had just done that back then, this Karma thing would not have caught up to us.

    But than again – maybe this Karma thing is not what you think it is.

    As for me, I believe in reincarnation – thus, I can just write off this life as “one of those lives.” Payback time would be in the next life. In the mean time if things start going wrong for me, I just change the deity.

    The Bible does not buy into this reincarnation crap, therefore, it does not support the idea of karma. I think you folks will just face judgment – and all these bad regime guys in Fiji, they have a special place reserved for them (and it ain’t Naboro). You know what I am talking about – all that smoke and fire and stuff, and they will suffer and burn in there for ever and ever ‘til the end of time! BTW, I am sure God still loves these guys.

    As for my buddy Mullah Omar I don’t know how tight those Taliban types are with God.

    You see Jean, this religion thing, it might be better if we keep it out of the Fiji problem – it just complicates things,……… unless we can convince Chaudary to accept Jesus as his savior.

  20. Asgrocky Says:

    http://www.fijivillage.com/?mod=story&id=0805099b6c3fbbd96003c4700e71e4

  21. Asgrocky Says:

    I just had to rewind this. The man’s got humour

    http://fijigirl.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/samoas-pm-takes-jab-at-fijis-bainimarama/

  22. Dau Says:

    Fully agree A/grocky, The man’s got humour and an Empty Pocket which which will be enthusiastically replenished by NZ & Aus $$$$$$. A junior clown like you doesn’t understand the senior clown’s deeper sense of humour and its implications… Gotta pen off, have to make a trip to visit my mother and spend mother’s day with her and the family. Tomorrow is mother’s sunday. I sincerely wish you and your family well. Laughter is the best medicine. More humour please.

  23. Dau Says:

    Jean, when I’m back after the w/end, I’ll tell you about the real people you’re harping on… Cheers. Av’ a nice week end.

  24. Asgrocky Says:

    Dau,
    As you say, that is your assumption. You a little loose on the lip too about family. Shouldn’t mention them in here, you invite target practice. I hope your mother, wife and children don’t know you bring home blood money. Or they just wink and turn the other way. A pig for lunch? They are carriers of tape worm sometimes 18 inches long. Be careful you don’t open your mouth to speak to someone and it sticks its head out of your mouth to say hello. Might have to call an ambulance.

  25. Jean d'Ark Says:

    Bud,

    Of course the strict teaching of karma in Hindu philosophy is that the bad deeds of this life are reaped in the next. Bible teaches that too, except where you spend the next life is different.

    Bible teaches as well that reaping takes place in this life also. Karma is understood that way by many practitioners even though strict teaching is somewhat different. But you yourself have brought up the karma or 1987 a number of times, so which is it to be?

    You’re right about God loving everyone, though – even Osama, Joseph Kony and Than Shwe. Doesn’t mean He changes His ideas or rules on right and wrong, though.

  26. archiebald newton Says:

    Good on you Jean.
    Give it to them.

  27. Ratu Sai Says:

    It never ceases to amaze me how these malignant parasites use various scriptural text to justify their fallacious dictum that a predaceous act is their god given right they are most insidious of creatures for which they induce inertia, fear amongst the general population and render the country impotent.

    _O_
    II ( ) II
    _] [_

  28. Asgrocky Says:

    Ratu Sai aka Ojo aka Dau aka Referee on the roller coaster ride apprentice of the master deceiver
    http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/2.html

  29. Ratu Sai Says:

    Arse/Grocky:

    Arse/Grocky:

    It’s rather preposterous to suggest that we are one in the same, more to the point do you malignant hypocrites have a purpose anymore the battle for freedom seem to have waned.

    Your lot can be likened to that of a ship afloat on the deep blue without either a captain or rudder, am sick and tired of motivating you losers your lot need to get your act together and your voices to be unison.

    You lot are lost in the maze and can’t seem to resurrect the strong voices you lot once had losers.

    _O_
    I( )I
    _] [_

  30. Asgrocky Says:

    Ratu Sai

    Because the obvious dumbass is in the “icon”

    When I used to hear about illiterate students graduating from school (FB, AIARSE, the ILOILO MAN), I often wondered how that was possible. But after encountering some of Ratu Sai aka Dau aka Referee aka Ojo’s more loathsome adages, I now realize that not only is it possible for people to graduate without having learned fundamental skills such as reading and writing, but that it’s possible for these same people to believe that Ojo Dau Ratu Sai Referee’s refrains are not worth getting outraged about. Here’s a quick review: Ojo Dau Ratu Sai Referee can’t attack my ideas, so he attacks me. It could be worse, I suppose. He could weaken our mental and moral fiber. If truth, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder, then my goal is to reveal the constant tension between centripetal and centrifugal forces of dialogized heteroglossia resulting from his tractates. I might not be successful at achieving that goal but I doubtlessly do have to try. Although Mr. Ratu Sai Dau Referee Ojo Ratu always says the most shambolic things, we are here to gain our voice in this world, and whether or not he approves, we will continue to be heard.

  31. Ratu Sai Says:

    Assgrocky:

    Is the name a lot more pleasing, your rhetoric is full of verbosity? Put simply you full of shit.

    What’s the bet you can’t pronounce some of those words let alone its meaning, you referring to the opposing forces where one cancels the other out and quoting some fucked up Russian to justify your weakness is not the go here.

    Stand up losers be heard we don’t two bit inferences to justify the reason why you losers are not making inroads to restoring Democracy again losers.

    Grow some spine, spineless nincompoops.

    _] [_

    I ( ) I
    _ _
    O

  32. Asgrocky Says:

    Ratu Sai aka Ojo aka Dau aka Referee
    Who cares what you think.
    And so disappears the Virtual Man and the spineless one comes forth in reality to spew forth its venom. Ha ha. Bite Me!!!!!!

  33. Asgrocky Says:

    Hey Dau
    aka Referee aka Ratu Sai aka Ojo
    As you say, that’s your assumption not mine. As you say, you’ve quickly forgotten …. takes one full of shit to recognise another…..
    That brought the real man didn’t it. One that spews filth ha..ha… ha.. whatever has happened to god bless you?

  34. senijiale Says:

    OK can we refocus on the tinpot dictator and his bunch of thieves in charge, instead of each other’s throats? I’ll start by not defaming dogs.

    So why would PINA choose to remain in Fiji and subject itself further to every crazy whim and fancy that takes a hold of the tinpot dictator? What difference wud they make to their membership if they were not physically located here? Nothing that’s significant I’m sure.

    So, what do they expect to achieve by this decision to cast a blanket boycott over any news involving Fiji? Whilst we all know the Pig and his piglets cannot silence our voices forever, this situation under PER isn’t likely to change in a month or two… we all know tinpot bainipgyamas can’t keep to his word. PINA, being a body that represents critical journalistic voices, would do them and us, the people of Fiji, a big favour in making a stronger statement of disapproval by relocating to another Pacific nation as soon as practicable.

  35. ex Fiji tourist Says:

    Oh dear.

    the green goons are at work again.

    The poor little imbeciles are typing away trying very badly to divert attention away from the mess that bananasinpyjamas and the moronic military junta have made of Fiji,

    You green goons are really pathetic in attempting to justify disaster.

  36. senijiale Says:

    OK, hve just found the thread (back in Jan) where Lusianna/Millie et al had insulted Adi Kaila with –

    “I hope the goons find out that AK is now the sole owner of the site and make her and her rent a fan club run around in the nude at the camp grounds in front of those foolish green goons”.

    So no wonder Adi K’s still mad at her/them. I s’ppose that insult was probably aimed at me as well but who cares, they don’t bother me at all. But that’s me. I wonder though if Lusianna/Millie et al apologised to Adi K, wud they be allowed back here?

    Ojo/Rt Sai is right – united we stand……

  37. senijiale Says:

    OK, hve just found the thread (back in Jan) where Lusianna/Millie et al had insulted Adi Kaila with –

    “I hope the goons find out that AK is now the sole owner of the site and make her and her rent a fan club run around in the nude at the camp grounds in front of those foolish green goons”.

    So no wonder Adi K’s still mad at her/them. I s’ppose that insult was probably aimed at me as well but who cares, they don’t bother me at all. But that’s me. I wonder though if Lusianna/Millie et al apologised to Adi K, wud they be allowed back in here?

    Ojo/Rt Sai is right – united we stand……

  38. senijiale Says:

    OK, hve just found the thread (back in Jan) where Lusianna/Millie et al had insulted Adi Kaila with –

    “I hope the goons find out that AK is now the sole owner of the site and make her and her rent a fan club run around in the nude at the camp grounds in front of those foolish green goons”.

    So no wonder Adi K’s still mad at her/them. I s’ppose that insult was probably aimed at me as well but who cares, they don’t bother me at all. But that’s me. I wonder though if Lusianna/Millie et al apologised to Adi K, wud they be allowed back in here?

    Ojo/Rt Sai is right – united we stand…

  39. senijiale Says:

    OK, hve just found the thread (back in Jan) where Lusianna/Millie et al had insulted Adi Kaila with –

    “I hope the goons find out that AK is now the sole owner of the site and make her and her rent a fan club run around in the nude at the camp grounds in front of those foolish green goons”.

    So its no wonder Adi K’s still mad at her/them. I s’ppose that insult was probably aimed at me as well but who cares, they don’t bother me at all. But that’s me. I wonder though if Lusianna/Millie et al apologised to Adi K, wud they be allowed back in here?

    Ojo/Rt Sai is right – united we stand….

  40. senijiale Says:

    OK, hve just found the thread (back in Jan) where Lusianna/Millie et al had insulted Adi Kaila with –

    “I hope the goons find out that AK is now the sole owner of the site and make her and her rent a fan club run around in the nude at the camp grounds in front of those foolish green goons”.

    So its no wonder Adi K’s still mad at her/them. I s’ppose that insult was probably aimed at me as well but who cares, they don’t bother me at all. But that’s me. I wonder though if Lusianna/Millie et al apologised to Adi K, wud they be allowed back in here?

    Ojo/Rt Sai is right – united we stand…

  41. Ratu Sai Says:

    It appears the proponents of Democracy Freedom and Justice has lost several cogs in the greater scheme of things thus rendering them inert for which they have lost the will to fight and most of what they accentuate is mere rhetorical frippery.

    They have resorted to traducing among other things besmirching people on a grand scale with little or no forethought of their very existence.

    Whilst I applaud their feeble efforts it goes without saying their philosophical system is tainted by falsehood and therefore their struggle is indeed in vain.

  42. bodyguard Says:

    did u watch the tv interview last night.

    how stupid the soldiers looked singing h/birthday to Cowardo Bainimarama. some wanted to hide their faces…liumuri u bastards.

    very soft questions … u can see the stree on Cowardo’s face.

    o na tarogi kina.

  43. Jean d'Ark Says:

    ‘Jale,

    Not really sure that there is any “each other” involved in this.

    There is us, and there is the media cell spoilers. And some of us and some of them are arguing with them. Just what you’d expect.

    Although you’re right, we need to draw a line and not get too distracted. Little point pursuing this RatuSai/OjO/Dau person and his shiny new thesaurus into the dense forest of Regime confusion.

  44. Ratu Sai Says:

    Jd’Ark:

    Now to confuse me with the other two dickheads is not very nice, you ought to show a little appreciation in my attempt to motivate the stragglers.

    You all need to compliment your voice’s with action take to the streets make your presence known there is little or no point in throwing excrement from afar it just won’t stick.

  45. Asgrocky Says:

    Ratu Sai
    We are not blind you have the same icon as Ojo. It’s good to know we can talk to a person. That’s a start. Now the one who was on duty in your media cell yesterday, don’t send him back here. he’s a dickhead.

  46. senijiale Says:

    Yes Asgrocky, Rt Sai/Ojo – same icon – noted that since last year.

  47. Budhau Says:

    So what difference does if it make is some dude is posting under multiple names – RatuSai/OjO/Dau.

    Why do some of you always want to attack the individual behind the message.

    ..and then there is some smart ass who goes and checks the icon – why don’t you scroll up this thread and see if the icons as same – for Dau and Ratu Sai.

    Time to get back saving Fiji.

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