WHERE TO NOW IG?

This is what we have come to expect from the irresponsible Voreqe Bhainimarama and the ig coupsters, a bunch of incompetent fools who HIJACKED  the Nation without one of the persons involved having the minutest idea how to govern a country or figure out the basic economics to keep it functioning effectively.

The eyes bigger than the stomach attitude of the ig coupsters is a true indication of their incapabilities, because when they imposed their uselessness upon us and had direct access to the Nations coffers their too real inferiorities was  revealed.

As with all the lies, blame and utter bullshit trotted out continuously by the ig, they haven’t achieved a single thing that they set out to do after depriving this Island Nation of democracy, all because Laisenia Qarase and his SDL party won the elections fairly for the second time and refused to deal with Bhainimarama and his cronies, who thought they had carte blanche over the functioning of the government because they had placed Mr Qarase in the position of Interim Prime Minister after the 2000 coup.

Bhainimarama and the ig coupsters have taken to the Nations coffers as if it was their rightful inheritance and wasted taxpayers money with their Economics 101  and extreme lack of accountability, yet cannot understand why they are criticised and laughed at by the larger community and the rest of the world as the following article points out.

Lack of stimulation in Fiji economic plan

Rowan Callick, Asia-Pacific editor | April 03, 2009

Article from:  The Australian

WHILE other countries introduce stimulus packages, Fiji’s military-installed Government has ordered all departments to cut spending by 50 per cent. And it is freezing all appointments.

The public service permanent secretary, Taina Tagicakibau, issued a statement instructing that “heads of ministries are to work smarter; to reorganise and review staffing in accordance with this instruction”. She said the public service commission “expects all departments to be vigorous in the effort to achieve the stipulated 50per cent reduction in operating budgets”.

The Fiji Council of Trade Unions said government job cuts were inevitable. General secretary Attar Singh said yesterday “the public service cannot sustain current staffing levels on a 50 per cent budget cut. People will go, and service, too, it’s as simple as that.”

Deposed prime minister Laisenia Qarase said: “If the reduction is effected to its full extent, then we can expect a drastic deterioration in the delivery of health and education services, and shortages of essential medicines.”

It would lead, he forecast, to the closure of some health centres and schools, “and the deterioration in the quality of essential public infrastructure and utilities. The flow-on effects on the lives of all citizens of Fiji, particularly the poor, will be disastrous.”

Fiji is facing a rapid contraction in its revenues because of the global downturn and international unease about the Government in Suva, led by military commander Frank Bainimarama.

20 Responses to “WHERE TO NOW IG?”

  1. Beranaliva Says:

    Don’t you find it obvious that the excuses the ig (illegal govt) will use NOW and fool the people is BLAME IT ON THE GLOBAL RECESSION. Ok, it might be, but we all know Fiji’s problem is a symptom of the ig’s continuing incompetnce and CORRUPTION, which they are getting away with quite comfortably. So they think (probably confidently). The ig think they can take advantage, which they are at the moment, and hope they can gain people’s confidence thru exploitation, well, the world is watching. In this recession, Fiji must rely on the developed countries following the G20 agreement in London. But the problem is, Voreqe’s ego is bigger than his brain without any REAL knowledge.
    So what can we do better?
    Simple……just do the right thing. And that is a DEMOCRATICALLY elected government NOW!!! So we can be recognised and acknowledged and get the HELP we desperately need now.
    Come on Voreqe! What planet you coming from? We need relationship with powerful countries. India? China? Venezuela? No disrespect to these countries, but lets get real.
    Be a good lad and start earning the respect of the IMF. And maybe Fiji will qualify for the much needed funds.
    Besides, where else it’s gonna come from? Your pocket?
    Power the People!!!!

  2. parasad Says:

    Excellent writeup Bera, What is wrong with the IG?Don’t they understand that doing business with: India,China, is similar to doing business with our local shop keepers who, would charge you 70% to 80% of their cheep products in order to make a profit?
    India and China are two of the most populous nations on this planet and they are competing, with the rest of the world, in order to give their citizens a better life and i’m sure that they do not give a hoot, about our small problems down here?
    I’m certain that Bainimarama is getting very scared about our economy,first he made the mistake of giving the Ministry of finance wheel to Chaudary, an uneducated con man, with no basic education in economic or any other Academic subjects; and after they found this out only after 2 years of economic contractions and unceremoniously dumped him, Bai made the mistake of thinking that he can do a better job at the national trouch?
    I wonder why Bai did’nt ask Ratu Jone Kubuabola the former Minister of Finance to help him and the IG. I am sure that Ratu Kubuabola would have relent. I’m really surprise that Bai has not made any move to ask some highly educated Fijians to help him in taking over the Ministry of Finance?
    Obviously, he would rather drive our economy right to the ground and put our nation up for sale rather than stepping back and admitted that he was wrong?
    We all know that like Chaudry, Bai has no idea, on how to deal with our national economy and he is using our Tax dollars, like there is no tomorrow?
    Someone told me last year, that Bai was planning to buy a piece of property, in India or China, where, if his status do change in Fiji, he plan to skip his IG gang and seek refugee in either countries?
    I won’t be surprise, if the CIA,ASIO had already have Bai’s name down, as their number one target in the list of people to terminate?

  3. Budhau Says:

    Whats with this India, China crap – Hey, guys, you may want to give some serious thoughts to learning to speak Hindi or Chinese.

    Talking about economy – remember 1999/2000 – that one year period the economy grew 10% – guess who was in power back then. In 2005 Qarase and his Minister for Finance were able to survive only because of Tourism and overseas remittances – they had screwed up everything else – sugar, garment, gold, fisheries timber…….

    Lets look at 2005 – projected growth 3.5%, actual about 1.5%. Sugar production at it lowest, garment export, lowest since 2000. Poverty and squatter numbers – does anyone have the numbers. What did the Fijians get out of the blueprint – go ask the common folks in Tailevu, Naitasiri, Namosi, Serua and the North – those other guys, they did somewhat OK because of tourism.

    It wasn’t all that bad – they had allocated $2 million to upgrade rural Fijians schools – half of that money went up in scam – go see the AG’s report.

    ..and that idiot Parasite wants Ratu Jone Kubuabola back – remember how he was was axed as chairman of Fiji Pine Ltd in 1998 by the SVT government for failure to perform his duty. It was old boy Militoni who fired Jone’s ass – and together witt him he also sacked board members Navitalia Naisoro and Konisi Yabaki.

    Here – I will give you a quote from your honourable Minister Kubuabola on the 2006 budget discussion. He was explaining away the doubling of the public debt over the last five years – standing at 52% of the GDP.

    “Mr. Speaker Sir, the build up in debt levels in the last five years has enabled us to improve living standards of our communities with provisions of clean water, electricity and roads. We have also increased allowances to the key sectors like health, education and infrastructure. Let me assure everyone that our expenditure programmes since 2001 have led to improvements in the livelihoods of our communities.”

    …that’s it – this last one was really funny.

  4. Jean d'Ark Says:

    The global financial crisis is the biggest economic deal in Fiji for now, eclipsing even the Regime’s own foot-shooting.

    But the global crisis won’t last forever, and when it has rolled back in a year or so, Fiji will have NO CREDIBLE basis to claw back the losses in GDP made.

    We still won’t have a democratic parliament and so we still won’t have the necessary business confidence to invest our way out of Frank’s dead-end.

    If China and India were going to help us out of our troubles, they would have done so by now. But a $12 million subsidy for a plot of land in Dehli, or a low interest housing loan in which all the profits are repatriated offshore anyway, are hardly going to do the trick.

    Bud – the ’99/2000 growth was very good, but it was actually 9%. Chaudhry did not deliver his first People’s Coalition budget until late ’99, so if you were honest, or if you understood economic cycles, you will know that that growth had little to do with Chaudhry or the PC. It came primarily from two sources: Firstly from the sugar rehabilitation program that was initiated following the worst drought in half a century the year before. And secondly from the business confidence that had arisen internally and externally from the first elections held under our almost new 1997 Constitution.

    When looking at 2005, your use of the word “worst” is invalid because Fiji’s worst ever economic prospects have occurred over the past two years under Chaudhry and the IG. So you need to compare apples to apples, which means 2001 vs 2006. The results there are incontestable.

    If Chaudhry was as brilliant as you are trying to make out, he would have been able to repeat his alleged dose of economic wizzardry over the past two years. But having purged the FLP of most academics like Chand, Bain and Baba, all he could rely on was his own penny-pinching-corner-store-owner impersonation.

    So if Kubuabola’s performance as FM was a joke, that makes Mahen’s an absolute riot – so bad that he was even sacked by his own coup co-conspirators.

    With regard to Fiji Pine – you forgot to mention who Militoni chose to replace them with! None other than George Speight, who in turn brought in TRM. If you look at the names and reputations involved – Leweniqila, Speight and TRM – you could not fail to understand what actually transpired there.

    So once again Bud, you are trying too hard and not making any useful historical sense.

  5. parasad Says:

    Jean, another excellent review of Budhau blockhead bullshit. When Chaudry came into power in late 1999 if you can recollect he didn’t do anything of any importance untill he was overthrown by Mr George Speight.
    His Government were by and large, involved mainly in dealing with strikes by the: Nurses Union,Bus Drivers Union, Teachers Union, Hotels Union etc,.
    Mr George Speight probably help him out by ousting him from a position which was over his head and was just too much for him to handle.He has no Academic Qualification, or any training in Government Administration or the economy? He’s a total blockhead just like his friend -Budhau!!!!!

  6. Budhau Says:

    Jean, you wrote “If China and India were going to help us out of our troubles, they would have done so by now.”

    Well, since I made the point that it is in our interest to cultivate a good relationship with India and China, you came up with the above argument. If I had said it otherwise, you would have made the argument that the Chinese and Indian assistance to Fiji is irresponsible – because responsible governments should be sending strongest signals to Fiji about returning to democracy.

    My point was that in future, forming closer ties with India and China does make sense – BTW those Chinese they did pledge several hundred million dollars for Fiji didn’t they. Now, compare that with the $1 million in 2005. Australia had earmarked $21 million for Fiji prior to the coup – compare that with the $12 million discount from India that you mentioned.

    As for your honourable Kubuabola, regardless of why we had that 10% growth in 2000, let see what these buggers did to run the country into the ground since – lets look at the facts:

    Over a five year period the SDL crowd doubled the public debt to $2.5 billion, that is 52% of GDP. What how does the hounarable Minister of Finance explain it, that this increase had – “enabled us to improve living standards of our communities with provisions of clean water, electricity and roads. We have also increased allowances to the key sectors like health, education and infrastructure. Let me assure everyone that our expenditure programmes since 2001 have led to improvements in the livelihoods of our communities.”

    What a load of crap – there was no investment in infrastructure, health, social welfare and education. That money went into consumption – and a whole lot of that was swallowed up by scams, kickbacks, financial mismanagement, abuse ….and than there was the vote buying rackets.
    Just look at the quality of life of the Fijian people during that period – those SDL lying SOBs.

    Then there was your budget deficits – every fricken year, they were running a deficit – and that too at about 5% of GDP. Now, I can understand deficits if we were building roads, hospitals etc, but these buggers were even diverting money that was allocated for capital expenditure to their operating expenditure. And talking about operating expenditure and financing it from loans – this made up 22% in 2001 and went up to 55% in 2004 – now you go figure. They borrowed more money in ’04 and capital expenditure went down – and we did not have this economic crisis that we have now – it was just plain mismanagement, and choroing.

    They also had no idea how to manage cash – every year they over borrowed by a couple of hundred million dollars extra – figure out the interest on that – that probably amounts to the total aid we get from New Zealand.

    Besides screwing up the country, the SDL boys had their eyes on the Mahogany – the next big thing. The FLP guys were going to make a deal with the Commonwealth Development Corporation for the Mahogany – I guess, the SDL had no money in that deal, just like Speight, they had other ideas.
    BTW – What did the SDL do over the five or six years they were around to realize the vast potential of mahogany – they were running around making deals on buying new sawmills for themselves and the harvest on trial basis – now that makes money for the SDL boys and their buddies – to hell with the landowner, and I thought they were the landowners saviour.

    Then they talk about free education for the Fijians. In 2001 SDL cut the government grants to school by 50%, never restored it to the old level.

    So Jane, I can go on with how the SDL screwed up our country – and mostly those Fijians, and given above are facts that can be independently verified – no just badmouthing, like you do about MC.

    The Blueprint – that was affirmative action for hardware store owners – not the Fijians, when are you going to figure that out.

    These buggers took over a country that was doing reasonable well and ran it into the ground – next time we can talk about privatization and how they sold off what the people owned for cheap.

    …Persaud – you just an idiot.

  7. Corruption Fighter Says:

    If there is one lesson that Frank Bainimarama needs to learn it’s that not everybody is as dumb as he is.

    If he thinks we’re ready to swallow the lie that the economic lifeblood of our nation has been drained by the global financial crisis, he’s wrong.

    In the comfort of his airconditioned office, surrounded by flunkeys who tell everything he wants to hear, it must be hard for him to imagine the hardship of everyday life that most people face.

    The fact is since December 2006 life in Fiji has become increasingly hard for all my friends and family. Jobs have been lost, pay has been cut, when we have to go to hospital it seems almost nothing works anymore. Only people who can afford to pay to get into the private hospital have a chance of getting real help – and that’s at a huge cost that means you’ve got have family who can help or FNPF funds you can draw on.

    The people who’ve felt all the pain of the impact of the destruction of our economy know when the problem started. It was in 2007, with the slash and burn Chaudhry budget, not late in 2008 when the Global Financial Crisis struck.

    And, was it the global financial crisis that beat people to death, expelled journalists, wages a vendetta against ourmost successful export growth industry and frightened investors away, or told the European Union to keep its $350 million in aid for the sugar industry?

    Corruption Fighter

  8. Budhau Says:

    CF, I don’t think you are ignorant or misinformed, so your purpose here is to deliberately misinform others.

    Why don’t you go figure out the percentage increase in poverty during the Qarase reign – in the six years SDL was in power, poverty levels went up from 23% to 35%. I will let you do the count of the squatter settlement in the Suva/Nausori corridor and see how the numbers went up. BTW – why don’t you find out why those rural Fijians are moving to these squatter settlement – it is because of the failed policies of the SDL.

    Then there was Qarase inability to deal with the land issue – how would he expand the economy?
    Money set aside to create opportunities for the poor (mostly Fijian poor), go figure out what happened to that money – scams, mismanagements and other corrupt practices.

    The Interim regime had to deal with this crap left behind by the SDL- that is what Chaudary had to deal with. We are paying the price for the six years of phuck ups by the SDL. Chaudary, in his budget tried to the do the best he could under the circumstances – specially trying to do a budget that was poor friendly.

    You see CF, whenever a military takes over a democratically elected government, the presumption always is that the economy would be hit hard – Chaudary knew that. They also knew that Qarase had almost bankrupted this country. What they did not expect is this global economic crisis.
    Therefore, under the circumstances, I think Chaudary did a good job – just imagine your Kubuabola being there with this global economic crisis and Fiji’s own economic crisis created by the SDL – even without the coup, we would have been up shit creek. This economic problem id not start in Dec., 2006.

  9. Avoro Says:

    Bear this in mind my dear friends we must not allow the return of Qarase and his SDL party for these people are not only morally bankrupt but are responsible for the subjugation of our people to the point of deprivation for these people are vultures awaiting their next prey.

    We must also be knowledgeable of the fact there among the many elitists are chiefs and others that are just too willing to relieve from the masses their wealth, and establish their undivided earning for greed.

    In a schooled society we must each adhere to some form of moral school of thought by which we can conceptualize proper respect for rules, just and equitable treatment between individuals.

    Thus is the concept that binds us good people in preparation for a just and moral society; however the belief is when a nation is subjected to absolutism and elitism among other things all moral codes that we adhere too becomes immoral.

    We must therefore differentiate between good from those of whom who conceal maleficence, for the good are those who lives with no question or blemish to “their honour, purity, equity and liberality; that are free from greed, lust, and violence; and who have the courage of their convictions”

    There among the general population are people that are more than exemplary in their stature and propriety that are very capable, with a bit of time these people can and will commend the masses to adhere to such moral codes.

    If there is doubt amongst you that this is not achievable than think again, for we as a nation must take a stand and annunciate to those of whom who so desire our votes there are certain criteria to be met.

    We will not emphasise! let our people and country to be the bane of those of whom who conceal from the nation their wicked deeds.

  10. Bin Ladin Says:

    Avoro, if that is the case then we should hire some angels to take over from the IG and SDL to run our government!. Finding personnel with qualification and experience in their various field to stand for election and run the government is hard enough!…..combine that with the moral standard you demand from this people is something else!.

  11. Avoro Says:

    Bin Ladin:

    My dear friend one need not be an angel to administer the country, however one must have a moral code by which one can administer and discharge their duty in a perspicacious manner.

    In some ways prostitution is morally acceptable as compared to corruption for the former it merely endangers the morals of an individual whereas the latter perverts the morals of the entire country.

  12. joji Says:

    Avoro,
    i like where you coming from, set the standard for the civil service. I am sure if there is a review of blue print it only benefits fijians who have something already, the fijian elites, blue print must be commended but to be on need basis and not race based.
    PLEASE LET US COME TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS OF OUR COUNTRY…… Now with the upcoming PPM and PPDF, we are not sure if this is a genuine approach to nationa building or just a smokescreen towards outright dictatorship, if you happen to read the pulse building up to the PPM and PPDF, it is not dialogue at all. IPM sets the agenda and political parties, ngos who do not subscribe to this set standards are left out. then what do we call this? no longer dialogue but something else.
    Cards should be lef on the table, Let SDL, IG, FLP et al to sort out their differences, us gang on the side, do something positive,

    Acha, right

  13. Corruption Fighter Says:

    @Budhau

    Looks like I touched a nerve.

    I know it’s hard but you need to face the fact that your lord and master, the now invisible MPC, has proven himself to be an incompetent economic manager. You say he inherited a mess in 2007 but you give him credit for the good economic data of 1999 in his brief term as PM. Be consistent.

    And you never give any credit to Qarase for the job he did in restoring the coup damaged economy he inherited in 2000.

    And what about sugar? Why is Chaudhry not pleading for the announcement of an election timetable that secures $350 million in EU aid money to help cope with the falling price?

    I’m still waiting for an answer to that one.

  14. Budhau Says:

    Joji wrote, “…blue print, it only benefits Fijians who have something already, the Fijian elites, blue print must be commended but to be on need basis and not race based.”

    No Joji boy, the blueprint was an affirmative action plan for hardware store owners, and for the few other well connected Indians and Fijian elite.

    Why would anyone give a crap about poor, not so educated, rural, common Fijians – they will vote the party that is endorsed by the GCC – regardless, beside that money earmarked for the those poor folks – that is better spent by by the Fijian elite, and those few well connected Indians.

    You think the Pine Scheme money should go to the Landowners, or the Mahogany money – who do you think can better spend that money – BTW do you know where I can buy a used portable sawmill? better still, we should make George Speight the Minister of Forestry, after we get him out of jail. – then there is your NLTB – all that money, come on man, those mataqali dudes, they will just blow that money, those loans from those Fijian banks, reserved for the Fijian elite – some of it, to buy shares in the FHL, you think anyone is gonna help the poor Fijians get started into sugar cane farming – why? Those rural school, I would rather spend that money to buy rugby jerseys for my team, or have the building material delivered to my home.

    You see Avoro – all those PPF, PPDF, IPM, SDL, IG, FLP, – while these guys are the CYA crowd, “us gang” are SOL, because WTF – this has always been about power and money.

    I think I will join the ABG gang (Anyone But Qarase)

  15. Budhau Says:

    CF – does it make you feel good coming up with remarks like “Looks like I touched a nerve.”

    This ain’t about touching a nerve – this is about someones boot up your arse (figuratively speaking).

    What I said was that when the SDL took over we had a 9 or 10% growth, they took that and ran the country into the groud – and I gave you the figures to back that.

    As for Chaudary as the Finance Minister in the IG – I gave three reasons why we cannot expect much from him, or anyone else for that matter.
    1) The country was almost bankrupt – thanks to SDL.
    2) Anytime we have a coup, with all the sanctions, lack of tourists etc – a economic downturn is expected.
    3) These economic problems was made even worse by the global economic downturn.

    So the question is who would done a better damage control under the circumstances – you boy Kubuabola or Chaudary.

    Qarase – has phucked up everywhere he has been, you want me to give him credit.
    When Qarase came in – with the promise of the election, the international community was already on board, that is why the country recovered somewhat OK – what we did was not because of Qarase but despite Qarase.

    In case of Chaudary – we still have the sanctions etc – but these these guys are still going – they must have done something right.

    Sugar Industry – it was Qarase who had screwed up the sugar industry – because of his inability to resolve the land issue – now, even if the Fijian landowners want to renew the leases, them Indians, the are on the way out of the Industry.

    I think, Chaudary, the farmers, the IG and all know that there is a price to be paid for the coup, just like the Fijians knew it when they supported the previous coups.

    Why are you waiting for the answer – I think Chaudary has made it very clear, his position is that he will support elections under the new electoral system – and he will not force the IG to rush into into this – EU can can do whatever it chooses. YOU GET THE ANSWER.

  16. Budhau Says:

    CF – does it make you feel good coming up with remarks like “Looks like I touched a nerve.”

    This ain’t about touching a nerve – this is about someones boot up your arse (figuratively speaking).

    What I said was that when the SDL took over we had a 9 or 10% growth, they took that and ran the country into the groud – and I gave you the figures to back that.

    As for Chaudary as the Finance Minister in the IG – I gave three reasons why we cannot expect much from him, or anyone else for that matter.
    1) The country was almost bankrupt – thanks to SDL.
    2) Anytime we have a coup, with all the sanctions, lack of tourists etc – a economic downturn is expected.
    3) These economic problems was made even worse by the global economic downturn.

    So the question is who would done a better damage control under the circumstances – you boy Kubuabola or Chaudary.

    Qarase – has phucked up everywhere he has been, you want me to give him credit.
    When Qarase came in – with the promise of the election, the international community was already on board, that is why the country recovered somewhat OK – what we did was not because of Qarase but despite Qarase.

    In case of Chaudary – we still have the sanctions etc – but these these guys are still going – they must have done something right.

    Sugar Industry – it was Qarase who had screwed up the sugar industry – because of his inability to resolve the land issue – now, even if the Fijian landowners want to renew the leases, them Indians, the are on the way out of the Industry.

    I think, Chaudary, the farmers, the IG and all know that there is a price to be paid for the coup, just like the Fijians knew it when they supported the previous coups.

    Why are you waiting for the answer – I think Chaudary has made it very clear, his position is that he will support elections under the new electoral system – and he will not force the IG to rush into this – EU can can do whatever it chooses. YOU GET THE ANSWER.

    Why don’t you ever ask for any answers from the SDL – about all the choroing, scams, mismanagement, and what not.

    It is Chaudary who is the center of your universe – well guess what, be ready to accept him as your next Honourable Minister for Finance, and he will decide which Fijian will be his Prime Minister…and when he is ready to retire, we will make him the first Indian President.

  17. Corruption Fighter Says:

    Budhau

    You never give up but that fact that you’re beaten is still obvious.

    The economic growth data for calendar year 1999 owes next to nothing to the election in May and assumption of power in June of Chaudhry. How could it? He had six months holding the reins of power in 1999. The four and half months in office in 2000 obviously contributed nothing to the GDP of 1999.

    I know you’re starting a long way behind the game in anything to do with economics but let me persevere. A large part of the GDP figures of 1999 can be attributed to sugar exports but the sugar exported was growing in 1998
    in the months before Chaudhry was elected. Did the cane in the ground know Chaudhry was going to win and grow a bit faster to please him? Another big factor in Fiji’s economic data has always been played by the price of sugar paid by our overseas customers. Chaudhry had nothing to do with that.

    The real question about sugar is what Chaudhry is going to do now to help save the industry. The most pressing issue is the $350 million in EU aid. He should be pressing for the announcement of an election timetable in order to safeguard that much needed money for the farmers.

    Break your silence on this issue Budhau and explain why MPC is saying nothing.

  18. Budhau Says:

    CF – this ain’t about giving up, this is about you being a dumbass.

    So let me explain it to you once more – we had a good growth in 1999/2000. That is a fact. (lets not argue about who was responsible for that growth – but still, we had a good year. So from a 9-10% growth in 1999/2000 to less than a 1% growth in 2006. Do you think that if the FLP was allowed to continue from that 10% growth – what would have been the result – while I have reason to believe that the FLP would have done much better – I think almost anyone else would have done better that these incompetent “unemployable imbeciles” of the SDL. Since, you buggers never allowed the FLP to finish its term, I guess we would never know. But one thing we do know – and that is that Qarase & Company phucked up this economy bg time – with the six years of plundering.

    You with me so far?

    Your next argument is that Chaudary, back than, had six months in power – thus we cannot attribute that growth to him – agreed. But than, how can you blame him for the lack of economic progress after this coup – when we had a virtually bankrupt country, and the problem was compounded by the coup and the sanctions that followed and that was followed by the global economic downturn plus the short term of Chaudary as minister of finance this time around. You can’t have it both ways, can you. If you don’t want to give him credit for the 1999, you can’t blame him for his recent term in office.

    You seem to explain away the 1999/2000 growth to the sugar export – have you looked at the sugar export numbers for the six years Qarase was in power – and his failure to resolve the land issue and the decline in sugar export.

    While, you may argue that the few months that the FLP was in power, has little to do with the 1999/2000 growth. How about the six years that followed. Why couldn’t the Qarase boys pick up the ball and run with it – we agree that when they took over we had a good economy – so what happened? Why don’t you want to talk about that.

    What Chaudary is doing now is to help the country. The man had previously organized the farmers, and while they may have suffered short term losses, they have realized long term gains. So this time around, Chaudary will make sure that the grand children of those farmers will know that they have equal rights in their homeland – anyone of them could aspire to become the President of the country – and for that there is a price to be paid. They would rather pay that price now, than later.

    So, does that answer your “real question” – Chaudary has made it very clear what his position is, i.e., that while he would like to see a return of democracy, he would like to see the next election under the more equitable electoral system that is currently being proposed – EU can do whatever they chose to do. I have said that several times before, you dumbass, why don’t you get it. What do you mean MC is not saying anything. Is this clear enough OR SHOULD I BE YELLING.

    BTW – why don’t you ask the real “real questions” – why do the children of the landowners in Fiji don’t have shoes. Why is there no electricity, clean water, better education, better healthcare, the high infant mortality amongst the rural Fijians, why no road to the villages, why the problem with rural Fijian moving to urban areas and the squatter problem that goes with that. Why, during the Qarase days, 50% of the population were living at or below the poverty line. Why did the blueprint that was supposed to help the indigenous Fijians only benefitted the Indigenous elite. Why was there a re-imposition of VAT on food and a 25% increase hurting mostly the poor. Why all this scamming, thieving, mismanagement that only benefits a selected few Fijians.

    Now – go ahead and ask the “real” question, question that have to do with the well being of the Fijian people – why are they in the position they are even though we have had 35 years of Fijian rule – and don’t give that Mara crap – all they are trying to do now is replace the Mara folks with another set of Ratu who have been waiting for turn at the trough for a very long time and they feel that they have the right to this power and money.

  19. Jean d'Ark Says:

    Bud – sorry to have to rewind the clock a couple of days, but I’ve been too busy to blog over the past couple of days.

    Anyway ” lets look at the facts: Over a five year period the SDL crowd doubled the public debt to $2.5 billion, that is 52% of GDP…”

    Of course that is not as ideal a state of affairs – but it is hardly what anyone would call “bankrupt”. In fact, no reputable professional institution or academic ever made that claim. Sukhdev Shah tried it once, but has not repeated that mistake.

    To take just one example for comparison, Ireland’s national debt level was nearly 100% before it embarked on its World Bank funded restructure program – and even that level it was never-ever referred to by anyone as “bankrupt”.

    The meaning of “bankrupt” in the sense you are using it is basically the inability to pay debts or obligations when they fall due. That can become a problem if you have a lot of offshore debt obligations and get done in by unfavorable forex movements. But otherwise if most of your debt is local (as it is in Fiji’s case), it is relatively straightforward to estimate your future liquidity from economic growth forecasts against known debt repayment obligation schedules.

    That is why the SDL Government’s 2005 Singapore bond float was over-subscribed by over 20 million dollars – the figures were pretty straightforward, and finance people who know how to check them didn’t find the national debt issue to be any significant risk to their repayment prospects.

    What they didn’t know though, was that there were a whole bunch of clowns in Fiji who didn’t understand the basic fact that coups are FAR, FAR, FAR more damaging to an economy than a burgeoning national debt.

    Compare that situation to today, where the national debt has been slightly reduced from previous levels. But were we to try a legitimate overseas bond float now, we wouldn’t see any real bidders for dust!

    Your claims that there was no infrastructure expenditure under the SDL is flat-out false! They spent more money on infrastructure than ANY Government in Fiji’s history. These facts are easily verifiable from historical budget documentation.

    The “consumption” you are referring to had nothing to do with capital and infrastructure spending. It existed as a result of the high operating cost of the civil service that was determined out of PSC negotiations and court precedent. The SDL couldn’t do anything about it then, and the IG is discovering that even guns and pro-Indian race-rhetoric can’t do anything about it today.

    On the other hand, the main reason why Government’s Operating to Capital Expenditure ratio is so high in the first place, is due to none other than MP Chaudhry. In 1997, the then-RBF Board warned Government of the urgent need to alter this ratio from 80:20 to 70:30 if it wanted to have any real prospect of sustainable economic growth into the future. However ALL of the then-Government’s subsequent initiatives to bring Fiji into compliance with those guidelines were completely torpedoed in LoC negotiations and arbitration victories by Chaudhry as FPSA head.

    Interestingly, one of Chaudhry’s main stated goals upon being appointed as iFM, was that he wanted to bring Government’s Op to Cap Exp ratio down from 80:20 to 70:30 . What hypocrisy!

    As for Mahogany, I don’t know what you’re talking about. If anyone was going to run a scam on that, they surely wouldn’t have sat on their hands for six whole years and done nothing about it? They would have just jumped right in and had at it. But nothing happened.

    And nothing is still happening. And that is a big problem, because the average age of Fiji’s Mahogany forests has now already passed the “useful” age of 30 years. But the IG still hasn’t got anything going with Mahogany. Thus another valuable resource is being pissed down the tube as a result of the 2006 coup and its subsequent lack of vision and management.

    in the end, its easy to nitpick the SDL’s performance with 20:20 hindsight to see how they could have done better. But whatever you might think of their individual policy initiatives, the proof of their economic pudding comes down to one thing – economic growth. If you can’t generate that, nothing else really matters because growth means revenue, and revenue means the ability to fund projects, initiatives and operations.

    In that respect, all the fine rhetoric and promises of the IG are meaningless because they have not been able to generate anywhere near the funding needed to fund implement their grand social engineering plans.

    Meanwhile, tens of thousands of school-leavers enter Fiji’s decelerating job market every year with less and less prospects of actually finding a job. The military makes a big fuss about the putative “threat to national security” of its still-faceless bogie of “ethno-nationalism”. Meanwhile, it doesn’t seem to recognize that the increasing flood of jobless youth in a flat or shrinking economy, is any cause for concern. Or might also prove to be an even more potent hotbed for ethno-nationalism than any Land Claims Tribunal, or Traditional Fishing Rights bill.

  20. saqaniwarrior Says:

    let us build a better fiji for tomorrow by working together as ONE and not on self-interest as currently experience by the IG

    God Bless Fiji

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