Why?

Recently while watching the TV news article on the Ministerial Contact Group meeting political leaders at the Suva Holiday Inn I noticed that Mahend Chaudary seems to still enjoy the protection of a state supplied security detail.

On the other hand I know that Mr Laisenia Qarase does not.

Chaudary also enjoys a Prime Ministers pension while this has been denied to Mr Qarase.

Cassandra’s Animal Farm analogy continues to aptly describe this illegal dictatorship where some animals are more equal then others!

76 Responses to “Why?”

  1. Mark Manning Says:

    This is a complaint I’ve sent today to this Indian biased program , I’ve also asked the Prime Minister to have the Federal Police look at it , as I consider they are promoting acts of terrorism in the Asia Pacific Region .
    ===============================================
    Dear Sir / Madame ,
    I happened to see your program today , Spice of Life , Saturday the 13th. of December @ 2 P. M.
    On that report was a man professing to be a Teacher , of what , I’m unsure , and a young
    woman of approximately 20 years old .
    I was disgusted to see that between them , they could promote Fiji’s Commander for his
    coup and still keep a straight face !
    Between them , they tried to justify this latest coup , saying that the Commander was
    promoting Democracy , yet they both failed to see their own hypocrisy .
    How can a Commander of the Military , a serving Officer of the Fiji Military Forces ,
    himself an Indigenous Fijian , sworn to uphold the Constitution , overthrow an Elected
    Government and yet profess to be protecting Democracy in Fiji ?
    And how , can a Teacher be so stupid as to support that concept and claim it to be
    legitimate ?
    Further to this , how can your program and your channel , support this rubbish in Australia
    , where Democracy flourishes ?
    What action are you prepared to undertake to make sure this rubbish is no longer promoted on
    this show and your Channel and to have those remarks removed or an apology posted ?
    This man , also , was comparing apples with oranges , in stating that in Fiji , Indian
    Fijians can’t become the President or Vice President , whereas this could be achieved in
    America .
    The roles in both countries , are far from similar in any way !
    Also , I am amazed that this young lady of 20 something , was so knowledgeable about matters
    of treason etc. yet failed to even give this word a mention in her report .
    I wonder , if they were to do a comparison for comparisons sake , what would they think of
    Fijians living in India wanting to have land rights there , overthrowing the Government on
    the grounds that they were promoting Democracy and then demanding that they be able to
    become Prime Minister or President of India !
    Thank You
    Mark A Manning
    Sydney
    Australia
    ===============================================Dear Prime Minister
    I happened to catch a short report on TVS today , Saturday the 13th. of December 2008 , at
    2 P . M .
    I would like to know if this channel should be allowed to promote what I consider , almost
    terrorist activities , within the Asia Pacific Region ?
    This show clearly supported the Commander’s coup based on his assertion that he had done
    it in the name of promoting Democracy in Fiji .
    It’s time , in my view , that these kinds of false reports , either be stopped
    altogether because of their potential to promote terrorist activity and that the broadcaster
    be brought to task for allowing this disgusting broadcast to go to air in the 1st. place . I
    , in this land of freedom and Democracy , found this particular report , repugnant to say
    the least .
    I believe that the Australian Government should have this report , show and channel
    investigated for promoting such views in Australia .
    I do believe that a Federal law must have been broken in this instant and request that you
    have the Federal police look into it .
    Thank you
    Mark A Manning

  2. Mark Manning Says:

    More like pig farm than animal farm !

  3. kini Says:

    Chodo need personal protection from those of us who wants nothing better than to kick his azz along with Voreqe. Qarase has no cause to be afraid for his safety, as we’re all keeping an eye out for his safety, from those military azzOles and blockheads.

  4. Nostradamus Says:

    I don’t think PM Qarase has ever resigned. What he should be getting is full salary, not a pension. Didn’t Fatiaki have something like that?
    Besides that, he is still working for the People of Fiji, as best he can, as he was elected to do. He deserves a car and allowances as well, especially for the legal actions that he is taking and need to be taken on behalf of the People.

  5. FijiGirl Says:

    The Malodorous Chodokant has a security detail because the illegal regime, as idiotic as they are, have cottoned on to the fact that there are a lot of people out there who would kill him in a nano-second if given half the chance.
    My feelings about Chodo are no secret, but his greatest danger is from the sugar cane farmers and their families.
    What they want to do to Chodo with a sele does not bear description.
    Ha ha ha – suck eggs, Chodo – what goes around, comes around.
    God bless Fiji

  6. Adi Kaila Says:

    Well there you go – he’s probably still deeply embroiled with the ig the damned thieving murderous old bastard.

    No Fijian would bother to kill him – maybe the ‘vasu’ – noone else could be bothered with the old fart.

    But hey take a look at this – Which legitimate government is John Sanday referring to I wonder? Some dodgy names there…………

    ——————————————————————————–
    Political parties back 2011 poll
    13/12/2008
    ——————————————————————————–

    A new council formed by a group of six political parties that met in Suva today has expressed support for Fiji’s interim Government to hold elections in 2011.

    The parties agreed that the council, to be called the Peoples Movement for Political Reform (PEMPOR), will demand that Australia and New Zealand withdraw their sanctions against Fiji, propose elections be held only for the right reason and not due to threats of isolation, and call for respect for the integrity of Fiji’s judicial system.

    Those who attended the meeting include John Sanday of the General Voters Party, Ropate Sivo of Conservative Alliance/ Matanitu Vanua Party, Dildar Shah of Justice & Freedom Party, Reg Raihman of National Alliance Party, Meli Bogileka of Party of Nationl Unity and Ema Druavesi of Soqosoqo Ni Vakavulewa Ni Taukei.

    Also present was Fred Caine of the General Voters Party while Fiji People’s Party General Secretary Charan Jeath Singh has also indicated his support, said Sandy who chaired the meeting.

    “We are formed to support the Presidential Dialogue Forum, and we will work with the interim Prime Minister to move the country forward and help restore democracy in Fiji,” said Sanday.

    The council said that general election could take place in three years since time is needed to make the operations of the country “clean and transparent”.

    “Fiji has a legitimate Government and elections should not be held with guns held to our heads and comply with the threat to do it their way or be suspended from certain groups,” Sanday said.

    The parties also agreed that PEMPOR would be dissolved when the decision is made on when the next general election will be held.

    Sanday said the council expects five more parties to join.

    The council plans to hold a meet with the interim Government to work out ways to help move the country forward.

    Fijilive

  7. Peace Pipe Says:

    Speaking of the MCG what about the minor political parties who want to heard as well. In their meeting these minor parties like the GVP SVT PANU and NAP who did not even win a single seat amongst them expressed disappointment about not being invited to meet with the MCG. Another of their lunatic resolutionin their meeting was for the elections to be held in 2011. Have you ever heard anything as ludicrous as this. These parties are all spent force and need to close shop and join other parties if they want to continue in politics. As I see it they are just sucking up to the ig for some food scap off the dining table.

  8. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    PP, this is manipulation by the jaundiced junta in its worst form.

    These irrelevant fools have been given trinkets to buy their support. At the next meeting of ydhfvgdv [ or whatever] bananasinpyjamas will suddenly find that 13 out of 16 political parties support not having elections .

    As it was reached through a vote, it has to true.

    The fact that most of these ‘parties’ have no support and no seats in parliament is irrelevent to bananas. he will claim a win.

    Fijians, it is time that you took to the streets to defeat this evil.

  9. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Ways to move the country forward :

    * 2 Political parties. Democratic and Republican. This fosters unity.

    * Multiculturalism is a farce and need serious re evaluation. The more things you have in common the more likely a multiracial society will survive.

    * The Rule of Law is paramount and applicable to all citizens at all times and under all conditions — beginning with the President who must front court and serve jail time.

  10. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Fiji faces suspension over elections failure.
    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=108677

    Amani of other says …

    We come back to the basic problem of how to politically accommodate foreigners in Fiji. The problem being that Indians have always tried to exert political dominance in devious and corrupt ways in all aspects of society. I personally think that granting Indians wholesale citizenship in Fiji at independence without the proper research into the impact on Fijians and Fiji was a crime and mistake because of the disaster we face today.

    The British should be lamed for taking the easy way out of a labour contractual predicament and the Indians are equally to blame because of greed given a perceived opportunity to grab power because of the impending political vacuum by the Poms departure. Fijians never had a choice in the matter and that is very important because this is their country. The result is fourty years of political turmoil and we now have corrupt nationalists Indians like Mahend and Dr Ganesh Chand actively taking part in coups to usurp Fijian political dominance in their own backyard.

    The ability of Indians to have the power to take part in the democratic process and have a voice in this country is not a right but a privilege. If they abuse that privilege insofar a to coup Fijians and trample on our indigenous institutions and cultures in our own country then the GCC and BNT should elect to withdraw such privileges until such a tie where they can be trusted again. here is just too much of a security risk to have internal migrant terrorists running around causing mayhem to our Fijian way of life.

    The Constitution should be scrapped and elections banned altogether. Now is the time for Voreqe to and the boys in green to gather in the GCC and the Fijian people to run this country forever. We will give the pardons and to hell with the rest of criticizes. This issue is bigger than Voreqe and if he refuses then other officers should move him aside. If only Fijians ran their own country there will be real vision and direction for everyone.

    We cannot have Fijians, Indians and all other morons existing in this country. They should be Fijians and by this I mean that foreigners should shed whatever foreign identities and cultures they are trying to maintain in this country. This place cannot be used to create a little India, Pakistan, Britain or whatever, this is Fiji and like America, Australia and NZ everyone must be prepared to become Fijians lock stock and barrel.

    The men up at QEB should scrap that Indian charter and start the political process afresh with the direction for the GCC and BNT. Leave them to make the decisions. We must be respectful of Australia and NZ but do not bow down to them given we know how their indigenous people are treated there. That must never happen here.

    ______________________________________________________________________________

    Io vinaka Amani. I get the gist We may differ in methods.
    Many of your well constructed sentences🙂 e sa vaka vu dredre talega BUT true
    Raw truth is hilarious.

    More to come …

  11. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    SV

    I was on Jone’s page when submitting latest post re: Amani from FT Online.

    now to continue from where I left off but back on my page so the board can take it now. Hopefully by the time I finish typing you will have checked in.

  12. Vobis Says:

    Katalina of Lau:

    You want the rule of Law to be paramount, all the while perpetuating your nationalistic apotheoses, what are you some sort of retard.

    The only way forward Fiji is thus, all British made institution including whosoever that pontificates around Fiji surreptitiously bearing a title of Chief no matter whom they are to be disbanded or incapacitated.

    Only then can Fiji work its way out of the cesspool it’s in.

  13. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    … continue

    Fiji faces suspension
    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=108677

    Amani of Other says …

    What’s going on? I seem to draw all the venom out of the racist Indians in this forum. Jese of Tailevu has made a good start by having a Fijian name but his ramblings suggest a hard core Indian nationalist beneath the hype.

    It seems that Yuva is his twin brother yet again ridiculing our chiefs. This is the type of Indian propaganda anti-Fijian crap they are throwing around. And they wonder why Fijians hate them. They come to this country and they don’t want to assimilate and they aggressively try to humiliate Fijians in their own backyard.

    If by their actions they think they would regain political dominance then they are mistaken. The Chaudhry era was the biggest political mistake in Fiji’s history. That type of nonsense should never ever be entertained again.

    Indians have shown that they do not deserve parliamentary rights and to share decision making. This is Fiji and Fijians have the right to decide that they should be kept out of parliament until such a time they are fully assimilated effectively.

    They day I see all these Indians thinking, talking and behaving like Fijians completely there will be less division, threat and instability in Fiji.

    But at the moment we have a problem with Indians in this country. Let’s not kid ourselves with bull terms like living side by side because that is where divisions ferment anger and intolerance. When Indians and any other nationality come to this country we do not expect you to be Indians living side by side but to be real Fijian citizens assuming our language, culture, identity and so forth. Assuming a name like Fiji Islander is just an excuse racist Indians to remain Indians in this country. If you still want to remain an Indian then you are in the wrong country.

    It is about time we scrap all these ethnic rights in our constitution and put the Fijian identity as the only legitimate nationality in Fiji. When you get off that ship to live in Fiji your former identity stays on the ship and return to country of origin.

    We have had multi nationalism existing in Fiji for the past forty years but deviously dressed up as a gimmick called multiculturalism. When one migrates to Australia you have to become an Australian, to the US you have to become American likewise India. These countries do not tolerate immigrants creating their own little states within a state.

    The GCC should be tolerant at these times and demand that Voreqe not have any elections until the idea of one identity is made in law. In Fiji it is the Fijian identity and the Fijian language and culture that should be the only official language. If Indians want to maintain their own language then do so at home but not to have it as an official national language.

    Voreqe should not push that Charter because it belongs to Idian called John Samy. Samy should take that charter back to Indian and try and give some rights to dhalits there.

  14. Nostradamus Says:

    Vobis

    You must be an Indian to think that the chiefly system was created by the British. But while you are at it, work on your own system and get rid of all Hindu priests and other caste leaders. Get rid of your ethno nationalist leader Mahen.

    Are Fijians trying to drag down your institutions? Who the phuck do you think you are telling other people who they can choose for their support groups and who they invite into their homes and who to share their land with?

    The cesspool will dry up when your Kind learns to live and let live. Accept that you are a minority, accept that if you want land you have to buy it, and accept that you have a homeland in India which has given you the foreign values and culture that you live by. Also accept that your people always choose confrontational leaders and that kind of leader will get nowhere Fiji.

    Good luck with your wandering in the Jungle!

  15. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Amani spoke of Indian Nationalistic propaganda which he should do.He is thought provoking and challenges us to re examine status quo. Voreqe took control of the country with a Nationalistic view which is totally acceptable to you but you can’t shut down those who hold opposing viewpoints. Why are the rules different for him and for that matter you?

    And who is Vobis. Vobis of whereabouts ?

  16. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Qori kena maleka.

  17. Vobis Says:

    Nostradamus:

    Firstly you might want to change your name to one that truly reflects you instead of using a Caucasoid name.

    Now listen here you, all chiefly system in Fiji are British made, you are in dire need of a reality check coupled with a history lesson.

    Secondly am no Indian, you sound like a little boy trying to find his way through pubescence, go to your daddy for lesson on the history of Fiji?

    Finally your Indian brothers were intromitted by the British for land cultivation something the indigenes of Fiji failed to grasp.

  18. Vobis Says:

    Nostradamus:

    Here ponder this.

    O ira na vuku ira vosa bale e dua na ka mei ra kaia, na ulukau bale o ira vei kaia e dua na ka.

    Lesu tale nogu gone lei vuli vakavinaka mai.

  19. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=108677

  20. Budhau Says:

    Hey guys – these parties asking for 2011 election – there is your new coalition for the FLP – while they may look like a bunch of loser political parties, combine that with the Catholic church and the military backing the Indians and unions with FLP – Chodo’s got a winning combination.
    Qarase can have his NFP/Beddoes coalition.

    You see…..Chaudary may done a few stupid things like joining the interim regime or not properly explaining those questionable funds – but the dude ain’t an idiot.

    So those of you who are willing to accept the results of the next free and fair elections – just watch out Nostra for “that Kind of leader” –

  21. Nostradamus Says:

    I have not written off Chodokunt.
    The stupidity and ethno-nationalist nature of his following is chilling.
    I do have confidence that Christianity will prevail over the arsehole, however.

  22. Nostradamus Says:

    I have not written off Chodokunt.
    The stupidity and ethno-nationalist nature of his following is chilling.
    I do have confidence that Christianity will prevail over the arsehole, however.

  23. Mark Manning Says:

    Chaudhry and anyone else who was involved with the I.G. can’t sit at the next elections , if you believe what Franks said !
    If the Indian population don’t like the rules of the host country , then surely they have the choice to either return to their motherland or migrant to another country where they can try and make trouble there !

  24. Mark Manning Says:

    Have any Indians considered what they are demanding of the Fijians ?
    Imagine Fijians , having lived in India for 150 years , then demanding the right to land without 1st. paying for it , and to become Inidia’s Prime Minister or president !
    But this demand would only come after they have paid a rogue Commander of the Military of the India Army to overthrow the Democratically Elected Government and disband the Police , religious leaders and Local Councils !
    What would the reaction then be of Indians living in Fiji ?

  25. Peace Pipe Says:

    EFT when you said take to the street it reminded me of an article in rawfijinews which was on the Human Rights day march. What RFN said was actually what I was thinking as well that the march was a lost opportunity for us to join in and add weight and volume to the impact of the march. RFN was thinking of SDL, NFP and UPP who should have joined in and I was thinking of us. The impact would have been huge since the MCG was here at the same time. Opposing the IG in trickles will not have an impact. We need to join forces and show the numbers. My request therfore is to network with like minded organisations and do things together to achieve our common objective.

  26. Mark Manning Says:

    Do you really expect the Fijians to be run by a bunch of cunning disloyal thieves and allow them to run down all the Fijian Institutions ?
    http://www.boloji.com/plainspeak/052.htm

  27. Mark Manning Says:

    Out of the mouth of babes !

  28. Budhau Says:

    Nostradamus – what is this “Christianity will prevail” crap – what has Christianity gotta do with anything.

    Manning – Since when have the Indo-Started “stealing” land in Fiji – has any Indian ever stole a square inch of land in Fiji – he can’t take that land even if was willing to pay for it.
    As for that becoming Indian PM or President – I think their constitution is very clear on that – every citizen is eligible. I am sure that there would be a small group, the right-wing elements who probably be opposed to such an idea.
    BTW – the current President of India is a woman(minority), the President before her was a Muslim (minority), the president Prime Minister of is a Sikh (another Minority) and the leader of the political party that has formed the government is a Italian woman (foreign born and a minority).

    When Rabuka came up with his constitution – that only a Fijian can become the PM, there was opposition to it and this was not incorporated in the new constitution. The Indians had endorsed the last constitution that guarantees that a Fijian be the president, the y went along with the idea that the GCC appoints more than a third of the senators who hold the balance of power in the senate. They were OK with the military being almost 100% Fijian. The bought this idea about the “paramontcy of the Fijian” interest.

    No one has said anything about taking the land away from the Fijians – the major sticking point on the land seems to be whether the agricultural land lease term should be increased from 30 years to 50 years or decreased to 20 years. BTW any land stolen from the Fijians was either stolen by Whites or some Fijian Ratu sold out his people and their land for some booze of some other trinkets.

    The Indians did not pay the army to pull this coup – this coup was on with or with the Indians, this could was going ahead whether the President ratified their action or not. This could was going ahead with or without this constitution, if they had to get rid of the courts, they would have. So don’t see anything stopping this coup. Those Indians had been either sitting on the sidelines or were sidelined since the 1987 while the Fijians fought their battles – this time it looks that some decided to back one side over another.

    Peace Pipe – it has been two years, and you are still asking people to network and march – Why don’t you go read some history – any history and see what other folks do – this week they are celebrating the Bangladeshi liberation – when the political party that won the majority in the Pakistani House of Representatives was not allowed to form the government – check out how they reacted.

    Good luck with you forming another committee of like minded people with common objectives – and every day that goes by the army gets more entrenched.

    Manning – do you have any plans to resettle back in your motherland.

  29. Mark Manning Says:

    Budhau
    No , I like Australia , we have a stable Democracy here thanks , unlike Fiji !
    But i respect your point of view and your input . I was watching a program on TVS in Sydney yesterday called a Spice of Life . There was a man professing to be a Teacher ( of what , I’m unsure ! ) and a young female interviewer of about 20 years old . It’s an Indian show , supposedly about current affairs etc.
    It was disappointing to hear the man talking about Frank as if he was Fiji’s saviour , stating as if it was fact , that Frank did the coup to promote Democracy there , and the young reporter with many years of experience under her belt , agreeing with him . They also spoke of a group of Indian Fijians starting up a group in Liverpool , for what purpose , again , I’m unsure .
    It was this man who said that Indians in Fiji can’t become President or Vice President and he actually mistakenly said that they can’t become Prime Minister either .
    I respect people of all nations , we are , after-all , cousins !
    We are , under the same upbringing and environment , the same !
    We all have the same needs , wants , ambitions , faults etc.
    Frank , by his greed , has shown that he is not sincere and not to be trusted . Chaudhry , is equally untrustworthy .
    The Constitution of any Country , should be respected by its Citizens because it is the cornerstone of it’s host Nation , where upon respect for your fellow citizens and the Rule of Law lay .
    Anyone who defies it , should be brought to task through the Courts etc.

  30. IslandBoy Says:

    Why does Mahen still have official state-funded personal security officers?

    Because he is a rank coward and without the protection of the gun he is unable to make his stand and say his piece in the light of day.

  31. Mark Manning Says:

    By the way , there was no mention of treason on the show in Sydney . It seemed to me that a group of Indians in Sydney were clearly supporting Frank and his actions . To deny that Indians are predominantly behind this coup , is a nonsense .
    I felt that they were brainwashing Indians outside of Fiji and I imagine it’s happening in other Countries also .

  32. Mark Manning Says:

    Having a Security team could also indicate a delusional state wherein Chaudhry has delusions of grandeur and simply thinks he is above everyone else , it also gives Franks guys some extra cash and that in turn keeps them onside with Frank so he can in turn continue to terrorise the community with his goon thugs etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if they all sleep in the same bunk at the Barracks .

  33. Corruption Fighter Says:

    @ Peace Pipe, I couldn’t agree with you more when you wrote: “Opposing the IG in trickles will not have an impact. We need to join forces and show the numbers. My request therfore is to network with like minded organisations and do things together to achieve our common objective.”

    Truer words were never spoken. If we are to win against the huge odds as represented by the dictator and his armed goons, it is very much a case of United We Stand, Divided We Fall. That applys to cyber space too. Even though the freedom blogs are much lesser in number than during the months immediately following the December 2006 coup, we certainly have quality if not the same quantity.

    SV is undisputed leader and FDN, Bubu and Fiji Girl are his faithful allies (I didn’t forget RFN, but he doesn’t seem to want anyone talking to him, although I bet there are big numbers listening to every word he has to say).

    PP, you said it just right. We can only win if we join forces and show the numbers.

  34. Corruption Fighter Says:

    BTW, talking of numbers, I see that SV is now a whole 93 percent along the road to one magnificent million hits and I have just noticed that FDN has announced its latest milestone. Details at the following link

    http://www.fijidemocracy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2554&Itemid=30

  35. Peace Pipe Says:

    CF, its strategic thinking that we need to fight the ig. With our superior intelligence we could move smartly instead of rashly. By the way with SV representing us they could communicate on our behalf so that the international community could see the truth and not the lies the ig is spouting everytime.

  36. freedomfighter Says:

    The so-called poltiical parties who wanted to meet the FOrum leaders – who are these wannabeee bees – they should fight the next election before claiming to be representing the party – i has nohting to do with race – they want electoral system to be changed, so that at leasr a few could get into Parliament

  37. soro Says:

    Hey @ VOBIS – Boci ….. wanna be Fijian – lei na copy and paste victim ….

    FIJI TIMES
    56 days & 1 hr ago
    SeniBua of Tacirua says…
    Irene And Maria:

    Something to ponder,

    O ira na vuku ira vosa bale e dua na ka mei ra kaia, na ulukau bale o ira vei kaia e dua na ka.

    Tobo o Vobis Van Dam

  38. RAV4 Says:

    @ Peace pipe
    Strategic thinking? Superior intelligence? You are joking, right??????

  39. Vobis Says:

    Soro who do you think senibua is, certainly no Indian.

    I go under many alias’s and that is one of the many, it all depends on my mood swings.

    For the purpose of pellucidity why not copy and paste the whole comment
    drongo.

  40. Mark Manning Says:

    I think it’s dangerous to be talking about taking over the regime on this site . Firstly , because the people making comments encouraging others to do so , may actually be agitators from the Military themselves trying to entice people to expose their intentions .
    Secondly , there’s no need to take any action as the I.G. will eventually run our of funds and be overthrown by the very Soldiers they themselves have used to support them !

  41. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Oi vo_ boci while you are @ it learn the language you pretend knowledge of.

  42. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    SV is late so am reposting Amani’s 2 posts minus the live feed from FT online.
    Stand by

  43. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    We come back to the basic problem of how to politically accommodate foreigners in Fiji.

    The problem being that indians have always tried to exert political dominance in devious and corrupt ways in all aspects of society. I personally think that granting Indians wholesale citizenship in Fiji at independence without the proper research into the impact on Fijians and Fiji was a crime and mistake because of the disaster we face today.

    The British should be blamed for taking the easy way out of a labour contractual predicament and the Indians are equally to blame because of greed given a perceived opportunity to grab power because of the impending political vacuum the Poms departure.

    Fijians never had a choice in the matter and that is very important because this is their country.

    The result is forty years of political turmoil and we now have corrupt nationalists Indians like Mahend and Dr Ganesh Chand actively taking part in coups to usurp Fijian political dominance in their own backyard. The ability of Indians to have the power to take part in the democratic process and have a voice in this country is not a right but a privilege. If they abuse that privilege insofar as to coup Fijians and trample on our indigenous institutions and cultures in our own country then the GCC and BNT should elect to withdraw such privileges until such a time where they can be trusted again. There is just too much of a security risk to have internal migrant terrorists running around causing mayhem to our Fijian way of life.

    The constitution should be scraped and elections banned altogether. Now is the time for Voreqe and the boys in green to gather in the GCC and the Fijian people to run this country forever.

    We will give them pardons and to hell with all those who criticize.

    This issue is bigger than Voreqe and if he refuses then other officers should move him aside. If only Fijians ran their own country there will be real vision and direction for everyone. We can not have Fijians, Indians, and all other morons existing in this country. There should only be Fijians and by this I mean that foreigners should shed whatever foreign identities and cultures they are trying to maintain in this country. This place can not be used to create a little India, Pakistan, Britain or whatever. This is Fiji and like America, Australia and New Zealand; everyone must be prepared to become Fijian lock, stock and barrel.

    The men up at QEB should scrap that Indian charter and start the political process afresh with the direction of the GCC and BNT. Leave them to make the decisions. We must be respectful of Australia and New Zealand but do not bow down to them given we know how their indigenous people are treated there. That must never happen here.

  44. at least Says:

    did u hear what tele was saying on the news today…he said the commissioner of police post was given to him by God and God spoken to him and his wife last yr..who did this guy wanna fool..sa rauta mada na tukutukutni keda ni lala tiko na ulu qai via justify taka na nona position..u know what he said later..that interview he attended was just the formality..wahahaa..yeah it did..tha GOd that spoke to him was Vore…who told him to apply and later that the post is his…

    Masia vinaka tele vei vore ..esa na qai sona ga mai kina nan nomu cakacaka kei na kemu i rogorogo…kete bona…do not say god if u cannot live it…sa laurai ga na kocokoco ni tamata…levu na kete ena bona ni ka e solona tu kina o boci,,,vaka kina o vore na sona levu…

  45. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    … continuing from the desk of Amani, the man of the year.

    That set the cats amongst the pigeons.
    That’s the problem with you guys, you do not see things objectively because of your damn racist blinkers like those on 20/10 and all the other bigots on this forum.

    When I gave a Taukei view of my country you call me racist. And on the other hand you try to preach this democratic crap to your advantage. There was peace in Fiji for 100 years before we were all made to be British.

    The same principle applies today if everyone in Fiji becomes Fijian; think Fijian, talk Fijian and act Fijian. That way you can truly say you belong to Fiji.

    Your comments deride Fijians and says it all. Indians a simply racist because they do not count Fijians as human beings in much the same way other nations treat their indigenous populations.

    The seeds of division is planted when you come to my country and maintain your own identity. You become an ever present danger lurking in my backyard. We do not want little Pakistanis or Hindus trying to carve out a nation under our noses and being very aggressive about it. Fijians reserve the right to defend our country, traditions, cultures and self determination against immigrant thugs.

    If you do not class yourselves as these other Indians then you should not worry. But elections should be banned and Fijians rule their own country to make decisions about how people should live here.

    That way there is only one identity, one language, one culture and one vision.

    That is not racism but the most definite solution to the race problems in Fiji.

    If anyone does not like it then they are in the wrong country.

  46. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    heard that and the following vision crossed my mind’s eye :

    someone is standing face to face with the guy

    pull out a revolver and pull the trigger

    wonder if he will say “God it is your wish that I die with a bullet between my eyes”

  47. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    … continue

    Fiji faces suspension FT Online
    Amani of Other says …

    What’s going on? I seem to draw out all the venom out of the racist Indians in this forum. Jese of Tailevu has made a good start by having a Fijian name but his ramblings suggest a hard core Indian nationalist beneath the hype.

    It seems that Yuva is his twin brother yet again ridiculing our chiefs. This is the type of Indian propaganda anti Fijian they are throwing around.

    And they wonder why Fijians hate them.

    They come to this country, they don’t want to assimilate and they aggressively try to humiliate Fijians in their own backyard.

    If by their actions they think they would regain political dominance then they are mistaken. The Chaudhry era was the biggest political mistake in Fiji’s history. That type of nonsense should never ever be entertained again.

    Indians have shown that they do not deserve parliamentary rights and to share decision making. This is Fiji and Fijians have the right to decide that they should be kept out of parliament until such a time when they are fully assimilated effectively.

    The day I see all these Indians thinking, talking and behaving like Fijians completely there will be less division, threat and instability in Fiji.

    But at the moment we have a problem with Indians in this country. Let’s not kid ourselves with bull terms like living side by side because that is where divisions ferment anger and intolerance. When Indians and any other nationality come to this country we do not expect you to be Indians, living side by side, but to be real Fijian citizens assuming our language, culture, identity and so forth. Assuming a name like Fiji Islander is just an excuse racist indians to remain indians in this country. If you still want to remain an Indian then you are in the wrong country.

    It is about time we scrap all these ethnic rights in our constitution and put the Fijian identity as the only legitimate nationality in Fiji. When you get off that ship to live in Fiji your former identity stays on the ship and returns to the country of origin.

    We have had multi-nationalism existing in Fiji for the last forty years but deviously dressed up in a gimmick called multiculturalism. When one migrates to Australia you have to become an Australian, to the US you have to become American likewise India. These countries do not tolerate immigrants creating their won states within a state.

    The GCC should be tolerant at these times and demand that Voreqe not have any elections until the idea of one identity is made in law. In Fiji it is the Fijian identity and the Fijian language and culture that should be the only official language. If Indians want to maintain their own languages then do so at home but not to have it as an official national language.

    Voreqe should not push that charter because it belongs to an Indian called John Samy. Samy should take that charter back to India and try to give some rights to the dhalits there.

    END

  48. Vobis Says:

    Jese Of Tailevu. Reply to Amani:
    Amani of other:

    You established your arguments by being vociferous, which by all accounts your reasons are weak.

    Go back and reread my comments and try for once in your corrupt life understand, you must know from whence you came to lay claim to any land.

    Now I will reiterate your Indian brothers were intromitted into Fiji by the British for the sole purpose of tilling the land, go away and excogitate the reasons why.

    As for being an Indian nationalist I shall leave you guessing, maybe if you are mature enough you will be able to read between the lines.

    Qua soti na yalowai, vaka yaga taka na nomu mona, qua soti ni dau vakarai taki iko mai ni tamata ni dau vaka yaga taka na nomu sona.

    Mata va vore.

    Vobis.

  49. Vobis Says:

    Katalina of Tonga:
    Y
    ou are an embracement to Fiji and all that Fiji stands for, rogoci vaka vinaka lewa sa mate o Butadroka, get it over already.

    Fight for the return of parliamentary democracy, for we cannot allow Fiji to descend into the abyss any further.

    We must all unite and arrest all prejudices for we are only visitors in our own land, I for one would very much like Fiji to prosper so our children no matter what colour, greed or denomination they are will share in the wealth of our nation.

    We cannot be half Christians for the god we worship does do things in halves; we must be live and die by the word of our Lord the saviour of humankind.

  50. Vobis Says:

    Typo: embracement should read embarrassment

  51. Wini Says:

    Wow…very strong racist statements by the Tongan lady aka
    ‘pineapple of the church’ I thought we have moved beyond that type of thinking. For a moment thought I was reading an opinion piece back in the 1970’s when Butadroka was around. As usual with this type of warped thinking, she puts the blame on someone else ie it is others who have a problem, not her. Wonder whether she will be enjoying Xmas?

  52. Peace Pipe Says:

    I bring good tidings this morning from FT. The UN will stop employing Fijian troops for peace keeping missions. Couldn’t wait to share with my friends out there in blogland as it was a long time coming. This could spell the end of the ig since their support from the army will start to wane. The soldiers will start realising that they backed the wrong horse and lost out. This had been my gripe with the UN all this time but I now want to thank them for doing the right thing at last. With all this large number of soldiers all holed up in the country with nothing precious to do, frustration will start simmering and soon someone or group will do the right thing. Things are beginning to happen since the pig has not proven his reason for the coup and his lies and his ig are becoming intolerable.

  53. orion Says:

    KB
    Multiracialism has been an experiment for the last 150 years (most probably to justify the wrongs of the colonial masters), and it has failed. The results are everywhere. UK will most probably become a brown country in 50 years. With its current immigration policy, the US will be a third world by that time. The UK is fighting hard to keep its British character from being muslimised. The coming world depression (will last 15+ years) will most likely result in riots and the breaking up of Western countries into ethnic cleavages. Fiji need not go that way.

  54. Mark Manning Says:

    E-mails to the U.N. from the beginning of this coup and suggestions that weapons be hidden around Fiji and select Loyal Soldiers and Police be screened then trained to infiltrate the RFMF on their return from Peace keeping missions , seem to have had their desired effect .
    I look forward to waking up one morning and reading the Times Online , stating that Frank and Co. have been detained and arrested by these same soldiers !
    Frank , as I said the other day , must be shitting his pants now as he knows along with his illegal band of treasonous partners , that time is indeed running out for them all .

  55. FijiGirl Says:

    @ Peacepipe – good news indeed! How is Vore going to try and rationalise that rejection as an endorsement of his tinpot regime, eh?
    Free and Fair Elections for Fiji NOW !!
    Tabu soro
    God bless Fiji

  56. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    PP, it seems that the UN general assembly did take note of bananasinpyjamas when he mumbled some words there.

    Apparently they took note of the following points from his ‘speech’.

    * I overthrew a democratically elected government at gunpoint

    * we are relying on UN peacekeeping roles for money

    The Un sent a team to Fiji recently to find out

    a) is bananasinpyjamas sane

    b) what is the army doing in Fiji to keep the peace there.

    The result of the UN’s deliberations is now apparent

    *%^$& no further role in peacekeeing for Fijians whilst there is a madman hiding from the law pretending to rule.

  57. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Absolutely agree @ orion.

    For what it is worth I must say I have to grant The Man of the Year Amani his idea calling on the soldiers to gather together the GCC BNT and the Fijian People in a united front. Am letting it stand on its face. All bloggers know my rejection of enmeshing the military with civilian duties BUT Amani may have something here.

    Assimilation is the solution to Fiji’s ill. Am so proud of Amani for bringing this back on deck. This is the way forward for Fiji. But my wish to accomplish it without the use of the army ?? maybe far fetched at this juncture. But we need to keep talking about it and not be so quick to shoot it down just because we are uncomfortable with certain aspects. The more we talk about it the more likely we will find our way out with minimum discomforts as in my reservations with Bainimarama and the coup maker soldiers to have anything to do with genuine steps’ that will take us out this and a big part of that is my refusal to have them share the credit. But like Amani says, this is bigger than Voreqe and bigger than anyone of us individually.

    So keep talking.

  58. Cakau Says:

    Katalina your thoughts are good but isn’t it a bit late. We are in the 21st century and if considered that we are the world, shouldn’t we be looking into ways how we can all live peacefully together.

    The GCC or now the BTN is the institution that should be taking care of the “Taukei”

    I do agree with you that the Taukeis are the rightful owners of the land and the other races are vulagis but it shouldn’t mean that vulagis should be ignored. Vulagis should always be treated fairly and humanely for it is in no way their fault that they now reside in our country.

    However, if we single out the Indians, they should be left to do what they do best and that is the bussines side of things. I think they should be allowed to enter politics but never to be allowed to become the President of Fiji. I am not sure about being the PM of our country???????

    Please don’t think I am trying to undermine your views because the other day I read somewhere that there was a Muslim school in Australia that didn’t allow the children to sing the national anthem. So you see I do know where you are coming from but in Fiji’s case the GCC should be aware of these kind of incidents and dealt with straight away.

    That was the reason why it was sad and disappointing the way in which our great GCC were treated by Voreqe.

    For us Taukeis the GCC was formed to protect us in future for our children, grandchildren.

  59. Mark Manning Says:

    Cakau
    what school was that ?

  60. LUVfiji Says:

    @PP – Indeed, what great news from the UN! And the usual lousy response from the regime:

    QUOTE
    Government and RFMF spokesman Major Neumi Leweni said they cannot respond to every rumour.

    “If that is the case then we should have received a correspondence from the UN on the matter,” Mr Leweni said. UNQUOTE

    Va ya! Y’re not worth half a piece of paper from the UN, lewenski!

  61. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Thank you Cakau. I am really looking forward to genuine dialogue on this matter primarily because I was certain it had gone bye bye after pushing it for sometime on Fijilive and FT Online. Amani’s re introduction is miraculous. Others were listening and although chose to remain silent then; undoubtedly nursed the ideas as making sense perhaps.

    * Agreed It maybe a bit late to make Fijian language the national language given english and its advantages. But I will not rule it out completely for the simplest reasons that Fijians are less than 1 million people on the face of the earth and our Indian community’s existence although I agree should be respected can not be allowed to overtake and / or snuff out the Fijian-ess or Fijian dominance in Fiji.

    * Speaking of National Anthems — what is this nonsense in this charter about Hindi lyrics to our National anthem ?

    * You are correct in that Indians should be left to do what they do best and that is in the business sector of our society. I will take it a step further and apply what Amani referenced in that the business community should speak Fijian and adopt Fijian culture, traditions, etc. as they are in Fiji and want to assume Fijian or Fiji Islander. Nothing wrong with that.

  62. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    @ Cakau

    Something tell me that
    An Indian Prime Minister will be accepted widely by the Fijian. This Indian Prime Minister is one who has successfully assimilated into the Fijian society. Just as Amani puts it : lock stock and barrel.

    Same is achievable for an Indian President.
    The Indian who knows to present kava for i_sevusevu any time of day and knows proper addresses to the various mataqali and yavusa. This is the day when Fiji will accept the Indian President.

    Am thinking it is quite simple. The Indians make it hard.

  63. Cakau Says:

    @ Mark – not quite sure whether it was in Brisbane or Sydney but does it matter?

    I used it because I disagree with that sort of thinking.

    Sometimes back a similar incident, I think this time in a Sydney school, it wasn’t a Muslim school but the Muslim girls wanted to make the burka part of the school uniform.

    Yes Katlina I think it is good to dialogue – problem with Voreqe and his team it is our way or the highway.

  64. Vobis Says:

    Cakau:

    I have no Idea how old you are, however it must be said if the likes of people adopt you way of thinking than Fiji will be never be paradise lost.

    Vinaka na ulu matua.

  65. Cakau Says:

    Mark found it but I think if they were allowed to get away with it they would.

    ————————————-
    YOUR SAY: Singing the national anthem at school
    ————————————-

    Controversy erupted after a former teacher at the college claimed the school in suburban Durack had “banned” the anthem.

    The school’s trustee Keysar Trad said the anthem had never been banned, but a decision had been taken not to regularly play it at school assemblies.

    “A quick investigation we did … found that because they have a daily assembly at the school every morning, the principal came up with the idea – without getting the full board’s endorsement – she didn’t want to perform the anthem every morning,” Mr Trad said.

    “The anthem is being performed at every special function we have.”

    Mr Trad said the school choir had also performed the anthem at events outside the college.

    “Personally, I love the content because it’s full of these wonderful words which reflect values that we all share,” he said.

    Trustees and the board will meet to discuss the logistics of performing the anthem at every school assembly.

    A founding members of the Islamic school Sultan Deen said an extract from a memo circulated at the school, which formed the basis of the allegation that the anthem had been “banned”, was taken out of context.

    He said the memo put forward a teacher’s suggestion that the anthem be sung every morning at a daily assembly, but was dismissed by the principal without the school board’s approval.

    The teacher was sacked from the school four months later due to performance issues, Mr Deen said.

    Mr Deen said the school employed both Muslim and Christian teachers.

    A spokeswoman for Education Minister Rod Welford said the department expected state schools to play the national anthem on formal occasions and ceremonies when the Australian flag was raised.

    “The playing of the anthem builds respect for official occasions and pride in the role of schools in our nation,” she said.

  66. Isalei Says:

    It is not enough, it still means that the soldiers still get to go to Sinai and Iraq which they are doing at the moment anyway. The UN must be convinced that they must suspend Fijian troops from all existing missions until the soldiers return to the barracks, obey the rule of law and their constitutional masters. Otherwise what is the use?

  67. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    @ Isalei I maybe wrong.

    My understanding is there is a cease on new recruits. Those who are currently serving will do so till the end of their respective terms without extension. Although I wish they had done a 100% pull out immediately following the coup or the application of a gradual withdrawal of soldier over the past 2 years that would give us the same result now. Would have been better.

  68. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    @Cakau there is the thing about Fiji’s schools indoctrinated by army thinking as well as this charter. I like to think that the schools should instead concentrate on teachings of the Fijian language, the constitution and respect of the rule of law. Safer than both the charter and military training and in the long run bring about a readiness for the Fijian to accept that others are here to stay and will adopt their ways, language, traditions; fostering unity instead of divisions. Who knows ? I maybe wrong but since we have not tried it and everything else seem to be failing I dare say it is worth a go.

  69. Cakau Says:

    @ Katalina I agree, taking the charter into schools is not only trying to change the children’s views but making them accept that rights should be given to those that coup to do whatever they want.

    Katalina just a reminder, we have Indian schools here, what do we do about them? I think it was a wrong move from the start.

  70. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    All learn and speak Fijian in Fiji is the idea.

  71. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    sorry am in a hurry .. should say more

    later perhaps

  72. Mark Manning Says:

    Cakau
    thanks for that , good to see it’s been resolved , sad that in Fiji , as you say , it’s my way or the highway.
    But what Frank has forgotten is , the highway is full of many potholes due to a lack of funding .
    Great to hear that the peace keeping has finally come to a complete halt at last and I’m looking forward to hearing of Frank’s arrest by his fellow soldiers etc. because they no longer have a means of income . Perhaps now would be a good time to start up the Coast guard in Fiji , because soon that’s all that will be left of the Military , so 1st. in for a job !

  73. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    Well Amani, The Man of the Year

    Meeting taking place 9 am today @ Delainabua someone may have your idea in mind to put forth.

    Also those who call us racists should look in the mirror and challenge themselves if they are satisfied with status quo. And while you are @ it ask yourselves why is it that this meeting is called whereby some 200+ invitations sent out and not one Indian mind was invited. Nor a Chinese. Not one Rotuman, neither from Koia and not a soul from Rabi.

    At this juncture in Fiji’s lifetime we should see a coming together of all sectors but failing because of the lack of assimilation into the host culture.

    food for thought

  74. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    You speak of multiculturalism which in and of itself promotes division. Think about who is the racist in that equation.

  75. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    No one addressed Hindi lyrics for the national anthem. What explanation will we give the Chinese when they demand it. Same applies to the Rotumans last I checked they too qualify.

  76. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    .. neither from Kioa

    my bad

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