Parties reject Charter

Top of the morning bloggers. Well making headlines this morning is the Charter. This article is taken from the Fiji Sun and it seems that all the major political parties excluding the FLP are vehemently against the Charter. It also seems highly unlikely that it will get the endorsement Samy, Yabaki, Tevi and company naively hoped for. Semesa Karavaki, the former Supervisor of Elections has spoken out against the proposed common role and the opposition seems to be growing and has not let down.Samy is quoted as saying the Constitution was not a perfect document, so it needs the Charter to strengthen it! Who has ever claimed the 1997 Constitution was perfect? It was under this Constitution that we saw the SVT (Fijian dominated), FLP (Indian dominated) & SDL (Fijian dominated) Political Parties win General Elections. The FLP’s term in Parliament was terminated prematurely by the Speight coup, but they had won the General Elections on the same Constitution, so why blame it now?Another issue we at the SV Team found amusing is the news from the FBCL yesterday that Vore is saying that if there isn’t a quorum to convene the GCC, then it will not convene. Vore is quoted as saying that only 3 Provinces have nominated delegates, namely Lau, Bua and Macuata, but NLC Chairman Tagiveitaua’s response that delegates from Bua and Macuata are not registered chiefs with the NLC, so they will have to renominate their delegates again. So where is this $2 Jo who has been spreading lies that a quorum has been attained for the GCCto meet? The chiefs are playing with Vore and $2 Jo by intentionally sending delegates who were members of the previous GCC, but do not comply with the illegal junta’s pre-requisite.

Resistance is quickly spreading and we at the SV Team, believe the NCBBF Members are truly astounded at the level of resistance since they thought it was going to be a walk in the park and many Fijians will let sleeping dogs lie and get on with their lives, but little did they realise that what this illegal junta have done to Fiji has directly affected every person in Fiji is a way unlike previous coups and the people will not rest until the coup perpetrators are brought to justice.

Ragone, we at the SV Team calls for the ending of the coup culture permanently by bringing these perpetrators to justice, even if it means the death penalty for Vore and his cronies. Remember, Speight was handed the death penalty and commuted to life imprisonment by Iloilo after recommendations from the Prerogative of Mercy Commission, however Vore and his Military Officers are not civilians like Speight and have no excuse and it is highly unlikely that the same will be recommended for them. What do you think?

23 Responses to “Parties reject Charter”

  1. Save the Sheep Says:

    Death is too good for them.

    Life is better. I would love to see these guys on regular work detail at the Cemetery….

  2. Dauvavana Says:

    @ Shave the Sheep I can just picture Vore in navy blue prison uniform pushing a lawn mower over at the Chinese Cemetary, with chodo and ganddodhau behind raking grass bahahahha

  3. Nazihunter Says:

    Editorial in Fiji SUN of Friday:

    Charter needs to be rejected
    The draft People’s Charter must be rejected. It must be rejected emphatically and finally. Behind a very thin veil of “motherhood” statements on transparency, equality, good governance and unity it is no more than a blueprint for military dictatorship. The so-called expanded role of the army sets it above parliament and above the constitution that it claims to support while that same army over the last 18 months has showed not the slightest inclination to embrace the principles the charter so devoutly proclaims. The charter will hand control of our economic, social and even legal lives to an unelected military that has an agenda of its own. At the same time, as all can see, its record of running the nation over the past 18 months has been less than inspirational. It has lost the confidence and the support of the people to whom it must now hand back power at the earliest possible moment. The charter consultation process is aimed purely and simply at contriving a semblance of public acceptance for a document whose comforting rhetoric fails entirely to conceal its chilling reality. More power for the military, more power for the ombudsman, more power for the Fiji Human Rights Commission – do they really think the people do not know what that means? In the “newspeak” of the draft People’s Charter it means more power to the organs of repression and suppression. And it renders all the more urgent the establishment of a human rights body that will actually stand up for human rights. And what of the Fiji Islanders who have collaborated in this? The place seekers and the power hungry can be understood if not forgiven. But the rest have sucked contentedly at the public breast while selling out the rights and freedoms of their fellow citizens. And now they ask for more. Shame on them. Shame on every single one of them. Fiji’s best, perhaps only, hopes now are the constitution and the judiciary. The constitution must be upheld as the supreme law of the land as passed by an elected parliament and that can only mean outright rejection of the draft People’s Charter once and for all. The notion that the charter will somehow support the constitution is pure nonsense. How can it support something it so plainly subverts? For all its talk of abolishing poverty by 2015, this charter through its creation of an unelected minority that will hold the real power will perpetuate and increase it as the twin cancers cronyism and corruption invade all unelected regimes. For Fiji’s sake, this has to be rejected.

  4. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    @ Dauvanavana,

    with Aiyaz filing the knife with other hardned prisoners lendng him a helping hand.

    What a sight.

    Million dollar view indeed not to be missed!!!

  5. Indian Says:

    Give them the death penalty. They wanted it for Speight and they meted it out to 5 CRW captives. The list for death row should include Voreqe and Chaudhry, the two Eveli’s, and the military brass who supported treason. The two elder Mara sisters would have to be investigated as well as Bune.

    If the President wants them to suffer more, he could communt the sentence to life in prison without parole.

    What would you do with that little mongoose Samy who desperately wants to be anything but Indian, but in fact voluntarily gave up whatever connection he had with Fiji, his Fiji Citizenship? He is not a Fijian in any sense of the word, and in addition to that is not a Fiji Islander or a Fiji Citizen. He is a nomadic carpetbagger spewing out vomit he expects taxpayers to be forced to pay for and now has the gall to say he has put his own personal funds into this abortion of law, logic, and humanity.

  6. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    The editorial in “The Sun” should be compulsory reading for every Fiji Islander.

    “” Charter needs to be rejected

    The draft People’s Charter must be rejected. It must be rejected emphatically and finally. Behind a very thin veil of “motherhood” statements on transparency, equality, good governance and unity it is no more than a blueprint for military dictatorship. The so-called expanded role of the army sets it above parliament and above the constitution that it claims to support while that same army over the last 18 months has showed not the slightest inclination to embrace the principles the charter so devoutly proclaims. The charter will hand control of our economic, social and even legal lives to an unelected military that has an agenda of its own. At the same time, as all can see, its record of running the nation over the past 18 months has been less than inspirational. It has lost the confidence and the support of the people to whom it must now hand back power at the earliest possible moment. The charter consultation process is aimed purely and simply at contriving a semblance of public acceptance for a document whose comforting rhetoric fails entirely to conceal its chilling reality. More power for the military, more power for the ombudsman, more power for the Fiji Human Rights Commission – do they really think the people do not know what that means? In the “newspeak” of the draft People’s Charter it means more power to the organs of repression and suppression. And it renders all the more urgent the establishment of a human rights body that will actually stand up for human rights. And what of the Fiji Islanders who have collaborated in this? The place seekers and the power hungry can be understood if not forgiven. But the rest have sucked contentedly at the public breast while selling out the rights and freedoms of their fellow citizens. And now they ask for more. Shame on them. Shame on every single one of them. Fiji’s best, perhaps only, hopes now are the constitution and the judiciary. The constitution must be upheld as the supreme law of the land as passed by an elected parliament and that can only mean outright rejection of the draft People’s Charter once and for all. The notion that the charter will somehow support the constitution is pure nonsense. How can it support something it so plainly subverts? For all its talk of abolishing poverty by 2015, this charter through its creation of an unelected minority that will hold the real power will perpetuate and increase it as the twin cancers cronyism and corruption invade all unelected regimes. For Fiji’s sake, this has to be rejected.

    a And by the way

    This newspaper wholeheartedly supports interim finance minister Mahendra Chaudhry in his call for an election now that the draft People’s Charter has been published. In fact the interim regime could save the people of Fiji millions of dollars by abandoning the charade of public “consultations” on the charter when the outcome is a foregone conclusion. This would give the state apparatus sufficient time to prepare the election machinery in time for the promised poll in March next year. Let the regime impose the charter if it so wishes and let the election be its proper consultation process. It’s time to let the people decide. And the only reliable way is through an election. “”

  7. Wailei Says:

    looks like that fucking AG’s thesis is bearing fruit! bastard!

  8. Wailei Says:

    ISA KO VITI,

    E sa maumau na ka e cakava o Rt.Sukuna.

    Read this article – S.Rabuka Fiji Times.
    _______________

    So what is in a name?

    SITIVENI RABUKA
    Friday, August 08, 2008

    Different people, one name+ Enlarge this image

    Different people, one name

    The media is abuzz with what may come out of the interim Government’s decision to call everyone in Fiji ‘Fijian’.

    Some people will probably say; “So what?”

    Some will definitely say; “Why?” while others may shudder with revulsion for being called a name they had been taught and have despised all their lives.

    The indigenous people should celebrate, because for the first time, they will be officially called what they have always been, in their own language.

    Some people, who have generally perceived the Fijian people as a lazy and criminally inclined people, will probably find it difficult to accept that new classification which now includes themselves!

    What’s in a name? What is in a name is what people see as the meaning of the name. A rose, by any other name is a rose.

    What are the possible implications of this name change?

    First, the Interpretation Act will have to be amended to reflect the effect of the change.

    Secondly, the Constitution will have to be amended, also to reflect the new meaning of the word ‘Fijian’.

    The parliamentary provisions and electoral provisions will have to be changed as also the whole electoral processes which our new Supervisor of Elections may find daunting.

    The whole administration and laws of the indigenous people will have to be amended to incorporate the new name given to the indigenous people, ‘i Taukei’.

    The name of the Fijian Affairs Board will have to be amended to be the ‘i Taukei Affairs Board’ or simply ‘Matabose ni Veika-Vakaitaukei’.

    The Fijian Affairs Act may have to be changed to ‘Lawa ni Veika-Vakaitaukei’, etc.

    Regardless of how he has felt about being called ‘Fijian’ in the past, Vijay Singh, our national golfing hero, will have to accept being officially called ‘Fijian’ according to law.

    Fijian villages will have to include all races, or change their names to ‘i Taukei villages’ or native settlements or native reservations.

    One aspect of this development that many i Taukei will welcome is that there will be no longer a need to have ‘Indian’ as an adjective in Fiji except for the High Commission representing the Republic of India and those from that country working therein and goods and food of or made in that country.

    Another aspect of the changes to the electoral and parliamentary provisions will have to be the removal of the ‘Others’ classifications.

    Mr Beddoes et al will have to be satisfied with the ‘Fijians’ group classification and even forget their former special significance that had justified their special reserved seats.

    Some of these have ‘standby’ names like Samisoni T. and Ilikini N. and some even enjoyed dual registrations like our supernumerary knight.

    The change will also simplify the language problem in the country.

    The people must, after the change, essentially have only two official languages, Fijian and English.

    Our Immigration cards will have to be changed and the ‘race’ line taken out.

    Now, that can be a problem.

    While we will all be Fijian, what about my race?

    What will I be? Will I be a Melanesian? Will I be a Negroid Fiji islander? Or will we be a race-less nation of Fiji citizens only? Does race-less mean non-racial?

    So, maybe, those who are unsure of what benefits the change in name will bring can be justified in their anxiety.

    No matter what the government calls me, I know what I am.

    Calling a hibiscus a rose is wrong and does not make it a rose and calling a rose a hibiscus is also wrong and does not stop it being a rose.

    So, what’s in a name? Why call something a change if it changes nothing?

    Change for the sake of change. Sounds like a political slogan of a party we all know!
    End of story

  9. Peace Pipe Says:

    They are struggling to get people to support the charter and seem to be almost pleading pathetically to the people as punch drunk rev yabaki said about reading the charter farter with open mind. Our minds will only be open to legitimate matters and not the illegal charter.

    The UN, Commonwealth and EU must be advised immediately of our rejection of the charter which is officially out now. Of particular serious concern is the entrenchment of the military in the governance of the country. It defintely points towards militarisation of the government which has been one of their ulterior motives for the coup.

    I have trying to piece together statements from chod and events unfolding to make an analysis of what is about to happen. It seems curious now that chod is saying that elections is possible next year as the charter is now ready. He is banking on the provision of the electoral reforms to be accepted and be the platform for his return to government. It appears that he will be leaving the ig very soon and be replaced by JAK so he wants to get back ASAP and an early election will make that possible.

  10. Always 4 Fiji Says:

    John Samy made a plea at a Form in Auckland in August last year that Indo-Fijians or Fiji Indians be regarded as a Fijian. The Forum was attended by Pacific leaders and senior officials of the New Zealand Government who told him in no uncertain terms that whilst John Samy may have been a Fiji National, but he is by ethnicity an Indian so he is an Asian. As John Samy and Francis Narayan as well as Thakur Ranjit Singh and others are of Indian origin they are counted as Asians in the New Zealand Census. Fijians by the New Zealand Government definition is the name reserved exclusively for indigenous Fijians.

    John Samy was visibly disappointed but the New Zealand Government officials made it very clear that their classification is strictly by ethnicity and therefore people of Indian origin from Fiji or from any other part of the world are Asians. “There is no discrimination because that is the fact”, he was told.

    The following is lifted from the Statistics New Zealand website (www.stats.govt.nz).

    Pacific peoples:

    • Samoan
    • Cook Island Maori
    • Tongan
    • Tokelauan
    • Niuean
    • Fijian (excluding Fiji Indian/Indo-Fijian)

  11. Mark Manning Says:

    Bula Fiji
    I understand the emotional response , calling for the death penalty for Frank and Co. but I don’t think it exists in Fijian Law anymore , does it ?
    Besides , a more severe penalty and a better deterrent for others contemplating overthrowing an Elected Government in the future , would be , life imprisonment !

  12. Mark Manning Says:

    As you know ! The responses to my comment from September 2007 : – Fiji Times , have your say !
    In truth , we don’t know who the replies come from , but we all know the sentiment was spot on at that time and has come to pass !
    ===============================================
    Mark Manning of Sydney,Australia (38 minutes ago)
    —————————————-
    It matters not what anyone thinks , this regime decided years ago just exactly what it had in mind and how it would achieve it’s goals . Anyone who believes otherwise , is deluding themselves ! The processes this regime have put into place , are merely a smokescreen to hide their real intent . And one can only assume that that is total dominance over all facets of fijian society . Hasn’t anyone in Fiji understood yet , that Fiji is being sold out to the asians from under your feet , by your own countrymen ?
    ================
    Indian of India (29 minutes ago)
    ————————-
    To Mar Manning of Sydney Australia-#34

    These silly Fijians do not know- ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! We are controlling their Military now. We will do it slowly until we destroy all the Fijian Institutions and the their land rights. The silly Fijians including the selfish Ganilau and Bai do not know and do not bother. GENOCIDE is the MISSION. It can achieved politically.
    GO INDIA GO.

    ==========================

    Crash Stock Exchange of United States (14 minutes ago)

    To India and Manning
    hahahaha…yeah lets start with crashing the South Pacific Exchange dominated by India and the banks! Maybe the Fijians can start thinking about the 6 billion deal now…hehehehe Take your pick!
    Fijians are lousy merchants anyway because their eyes have always been to big for their stomach(traditionally) thus the need to have a corporate body(GCC new look) to curb the crooks that take advantage of the Natadola projects etc. I say Code of conduct is necessary because no chief should be above the law neither are accountants!

  13. Mark Manning Says:

    The Qarase Court case hasn’t finalised , the GCC can’t reconvene according to Frank , there is no Vice President yet , there will be no election in March 2009 and if the President were to pass away or become too ill to perform his Duties , then there will be nothing stopping Frank from declaring himself President and abrogating the Constitution . Under those circumstances , he and all his buddies would literally get away with murder .
    Even the soldiers don’t have the will to fight this regime ! Yet they are the only ones who can bring all this to an end and i hope it’s not too far away !

  14. taukei power Says:

    CAN EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE…

    The definition of the word ‘chief’ denotes only heads of ‘Yavusa’.

    The Lauan GCC nominee & provincial council chair Rokoului Mara therefore is of chiefly descent. He is not a chief unless and until he becomes a Yavusa head i.e gunuva na bilo ni vanua.

    PLEASE TAKE NOTE AND INFORM PEOPLE

  15. Corruption Fighter Says:

    It iooks like the charter IS promoting unity. All parties except the Chodopu$$ dominated FLP have united to reject the charter.

    What a great day for Fiji. May be some good will come out of all this
    evil if everyone unites behind the rule of the law and the spirit as well
    as the letter of the Constitution. Never forget that the 2006 coup
    overthrew a multi-party government that represented the people of
    Fiji better than any previous government in our history.

    @Dauvavana

    Life at Korovou would be just like coming home for little Frankie (except for the blue uniform) but I think it’s Naboro for him. May be his lawyer could argue he needs to live near St Giles.

  16. Mark Manning Says:

    just put an extra bunk in george’s cell for Frank !

  17. Dauvavana Says:

    @MM so I presume Frank would be Frank’s bitch in there???

    Oh what a sight bahahahahaha

    we might throw in the Junior Chodo for good measure

  18. Wailei Says:

    GANILAU NA ULUKAU… YOU REALLY ARE A DUMB F*^K!!!!

    ITS STATES GOVERNMENT RECORDS….. BOCI, BAKU, ULU KOBO, NO MONEY! KULINA VAKA KEI NOMUDOU YAVU NA VASU!!

    DONT TOUCH OUR GENEALOGICAL RECORDS! YOU BUNCH OF FREAKS!

    ———————–

    Qarase Wants Answers
    Publish date/time: 08/08/2008 [16:50]

    Ousted Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase has questioned the NCBBF on whether the recommendation in the draft People’s Charter to eliminate the racial categorization in all government records and registers, includes the Vola Ni Kawa Bula.

    Qarase said the draft specifically says the elimination of all government records and this according to him will include the VKB.

    “It’s a very controversial and sensitive one. The register of Fijians – the Vola ni Kawa Bula – VKB- is a register kept by the government. It has been kept there and updated ever since the Fijian race was recorded in that manner. The source documents for the VKB are the birth certificate, the marriage certificate and the death certificate which are deposited with the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. I was surprised when I saw that particular recommendation. There is no clarification on it. The recommendation is to abolish the VKB. If that is the intention they should come out very clearly on it.”

    When Fijivillage called the NCBBF’s John Samy, he said the VKB will not be eliminated and he will make a full statement on Qarase’s comment later this afternoon.

    Meanwhile, Acting Interim Prime Minister Ratu Epeli Ganilau said the draft Charter does not specifically say the elimination of the VKB and people should not assume anything.

    “This purpose of this document is just a draft – it doesn’t mean that it’s going to do away with something that is not given a mention in the charter. So if people are reading too much into this then this could be issues that could be brought up for people to read into it if it’s not mentioned they obviously are airing the concern that this could be brought up. But it’s not mentioned in the charter itself– so for me it’s not an issue.”

  19. painter Says:

    Vinaka Wailei! lol… Ia mo kakua ga ni ciba koso… we can’t afford to lose you!

  20. Indian Says:

    Fiji needs a leader who is not afraid to say that Fijians (real Fijians) have a special relationship to Fiji. It is their ancestral homeland. Fiji is not a homeless shelter for refugees or even Indians who have exploited sugar subsidies and exploited Fijians and Fijian land for the past 5 generations.
    In order to fairly know who deserves this special respect, it is vital to have records such as the VKB.
    Anyone out to destroy such records is aiding and abetting race based genocide, like the Spanish conquistadors who after subduing the natives with religions, killed every man, woman and child in Hispaniola.
    People like John Samy can put in the same casket with Hitler and the other racist genocidal maniacs of the past millenium.
    Fijians need to stand up and evict this animal.

  21. Wailei Says:

    @painter, dont worry, shall live a long life!!! lol…

  22. Soul of Fiji Says:

    Yes Manning, Frank should be George’s cell mate and we will all see how tough Frank is.

    I fully support that all coup perpetrators to be put in prison including the Police who beat people up.

  23. lonedragon Says:

    HEY MR VOREQE(de vuaka)sa rauta mada na crash tutu tiko

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