We want you to take a pot shot at this………

Give it you best shot, for or against:

LESS then ten months from today the people of this nation as well as members of the international community would realise how their effort contributed towards the shaping of Fiji’s new horizon to be ‘The Way the World Should Be’. Whether the effort is positive or negative it is how you have contributed to the shaping of our future Fiji.

Undoubtedly no one can deny the fact that this nation has a prolonged dilemma which has been tormenting this nation for the past 20 years.

Prominent members of society have differed in views and solutions, but none made an effort to rectify them.

Fiji’s problems appeared through the political behavior of this nation where racial discrimination was a tool for political power.

This has injected racial differences amongst the people especially between the Indo Fijians and the Indigenous people.

Unfortunately as the United Nations is committed to the elimination of racial discrimination, racial difference in Fiji became polarised every year.

It has also drastically affected the nation’s development resulting from development schemes which ended in scandalous scams.

The Interim Government and RFMF have introduced a solution to Fiji’s problem titled the Peoples Charter for Change, Peace and Progress (PCCPP) which will shape a new horizon for this beloved nation.

The solution is intended to improve governance and the delivery of government services equally and timely to the society.

Politicians as well as leaders of neighboring nations stated that a free, fair and the election of a democratic government is the solution to Fiji’s problem.

It is sad to say that within the past 20 years, we’ve had elections appointing democratic governments but Fiji’s problem continue to worsen resulting in the overthrowing of elected governments.

Members of the community must understand that the formulation of the PCCPP will enable them to determine how they will be governed and served by political leaders who will be elected in future democratic elections.

There are people and organisations that oppose the formulation of the Charter and continue to raise contradicting ideas to counteract the effort of the Interim Government in educating the populace on the issue.

National Federation Party General Secretary Pramod Rae said that people were confused about the Charter.

The people will only be confused if they aren’t given the opportunity to hear and understand the fundamental principles of the Charter.

Some political parties kept on harping that the formulation of a Charter or a document which is intended to end the coup culture and corruption in Fiji will be futile as the practice eventuate without external apparent influence.

However, the people must understand that a cognitive reasoning will predominantly be enhanced by contributing factors. And those contributing factors are in fact external influence.

Apparently we have at least less than ten months to determine our future Fiji.

A nation that is free from coup culture and corruption. Some people continue to advocate that history will always repeat itself.

Does that mean Jesus Christ will be crucified for a second time and again at Calvary?

The people must be committed to the shaping our new horizon, where history is intended not to repeat itself.

Its good to learn from our own mistakes but it is high time for us to advocate our new generation to be wise and learn from other peoples mistakes.

“The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptic or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities.

We need men who can dream of things that never were” (John F. Kennedy 35th US President).

RFMF MEDIA CELL

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68 Responses to “We want you to take a pot shot at this………”

  1. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    CRAP!

    It is the idiotic, lazy, useless military that has caused the coup-coup culture.

    What a useless bit of senseless propaganda.

    Fiji will prosper when fools like chaudhry and his puppet, bananasinpyjamas, are hanging from the yardarms.

  2. NobleBannerBlue Says:

    Utter rubbish…

    Dont they realise that the only way to rectify the problems facing Fiji is to recognise the important issues that affect us everyday… jobs, education, health, investment, confidence…

    These issues will not be solved by a People’s Charter. We already have a constitution that sets out how we want to be governed. We dont need another defacto document which may will take another 10 months or (?) to develop

    Unfortunately the IG seems blind to the problems that exist, merely intent to play the blame game – blaming the former Govt or anyone else. The only way to move forward is to recognise the practical problems which exist not develop new ones…

  3. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    People, remember we are Fijians.

    We are righting for our rights!

    Why limit Fiji’s problem to the last 20 years? It started even before the Constitutional talks prior to Independence!

    Why make Chaudary the saviour when he is the devil?

  4. Mark Manning Says:

    Some people see things as they are , and say why ?
    Others see things as they could be , and say , why not ? ( JFK )
    Indians don’t seem to think of land the same way as some Indigenous Fijians do .
    Some Indigenous Fijians don’t seem to think of land the same way as their fellow countrymen .
    And so , there are different views already !
    All citizens of a country , according the United Nations , should be treated equally , yet in Fiji , they’re not , in terms of land ownership .
    And so there is another bone of contention within the community .
    Unless these matters are settled or the Military disbanded , Fiji’s coups , I believe , are bound to be repeated over and over and over .
    They’re not easy issues to resolve . But must be resolved if there is to be prosperity for all . As well as these problems , the perpetrators of this and previous coups and those behind the murders and Human Rights abuses , must be brought to justice !

  5. Vakatakilai Says:

    The real problem is very simple. It lies in the assumption that any decision taken in the past that favour the development of Fijians or the preservation of their culture and land has been presumed by the Indian leaders and politicians as racist.

    This has worsened with the becoming prominence of the Human Right movement. The Indian leaders in Fiji have taken this as a vehicle to elevate their fight for equality in Fiji to new heights. They think that they have equal rights even to ownership of the land.

    On the other hand there is the Indigenous Rights. However, we as Fijians should be digging into this documents and highlighting issues that is to our advantage and using it to fight our cases against the onslaught we are currently under.

    But to think of it, we should ask the question as to who came up with all these rules (rights). It usually is drawn up by immigrant population in other countries who have taken over the land as in America, Australia, NZ, etc and have been put in place to protect their own interests, and using it as a rule to cover the whole world.

    So we can be sure that even the Indigenous right will not be enough protection for us. Even than the Human Rights can overule Indigenous ones when it comes to the crunch.

    Our best solution is to make our own rules that is unique to our situation here in Fiji. Our reliance on overseas experts to come and advice us on how we should run Fiji will always to our detriment as Fijians since they come over to Fiji armed with such documents as the HR, IR etc .

    Let’s (Fijians) just sit down, draw up what is good for us, and put these arguments forward as our ideal solution to begin negotiations from. Never invite those so called experts from overseas, but sit down with our Indian brothers and talk it over, beginning from what we have drawn up.

    Finally, I would like to bring in another issue that can be controversial but as Christians we should be strong enough to bring forward as part of our discussion. “Our God is a jealous God”. May be our neglect to highlight our faith in the God that we worship is the reason why we have been overcome by all the problems we face today.

    We have allowed temples of Baal on the very land that Jehovah had entrusted to us. Remember what happenned to the nations of Israel and Judah. Their leaders built temples and that took the minds of their people away from their God. He is a jealous God, remember.

    This bring another “Right” to mind. The right of individuals to worship whatever god they want. See how Satan has weaved his way into all this RIGHTS thing.

    Keep praying folks!

  6. Jamesa Says:

    Tripe. Another document or proclamation to suit the current cretinous government’s agenda will not solve the more basic needs of the country at present.

    I think we need more lawyers, less soldiers, more leaders and less showmen.

  7. Morgan Says:

    How does the military intend to address the issue of cognitive dissonance in relation to their professional obligations given that their actions has resulted in treasonous activities,corruption and the extinguishing of innocent lives?

    Their media cell should understand that their words hold no value because history concurs that when it comes to the FMF and coups, history does repeat itself.The biggest single contribution factor is that througout its recent history the FMF has been presided over by failed commanders who have failed in their duties towards the nation.

    Jesus Christ faced up to his responsibilities even though he did not sin. When will the traitors up at QEB face up to their crimes? Their charter is nothing but a treacherous vehicle whose sole purpose is to illegally solicit immunity in the courts from those crimes.

    How many times must the FMF crucify Christ when they hold out that they acknowledge him but on the other hand do the opposite to what he stands for? This is blasphemy of the highest order because Christ came to save lives but Voreqe and his goons in green havr taken them violently. commander breeds rotten soldiers and they should never ever be allowed to succeed in this illegal endevour by being granted immunity. To accept their demonic charter is akin to making a pact with the devil.

  8. Morgan Says:

    How does the military intend to address the issue of cognitive dissonance in relation to their professional obligations given that their actions has resulted in treasonous activities,corruption and the extinguishing of innocent lives?

    Their media cell should understand that their words hold no value because history concurs that when it comes to the FMF and coups, history does repeat itself.The biggest single contribution factor is that througout its recent history the FMF has been presided over by failed commanders who have failed in their duties towards the nation.

    Jesus Christ faced up to his responsibilities even though he did not sin. When will the traitors up at QEB face up to their crimes? Their charter is nothing but a treacherous vehicle whose sole purpose is to illegally solicit immunity in the courts from those crimes.

    How many times must the FMF crucify Christ when they hold out that they acknowledge him but on the other hand do the opposite to what he stands for? This is blasphemy of the highest order because Christ came to save lives but Voreqe kills them. A rotten commander breeds rotten soldiers and these criminals should never ever be allowed to succeed in this illegal enterprise by being granted immunity. To accept their demonic charter is akin to making a pact with the devil.

  9. EnufDictatorship Says:

    There rhetoric about the whole situation is so ADHD…there is no rhyme nor reason whatsoever to the whole content of this piece of shite. It is illogical and incoherent in its setting out.

    First they talk about race issues…

    \”Fiji’s problems appeared through the political behavior of this nation where racial discrimination was a tool for political power.\”

    and then to SOLVE this they talk about the charter and the solution it will bring, which has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE AT ALL…

    \”The Interim Government and RFMF have introduced a solution to Fiji’s problem titled the Peoples Charter for Change, Peace and Progress (PCCPP) which will shape a new horizon for this beloved nation.

    The solution is intended to improve governance and the delivery of government services equally and timely to the society.\”

    Then they harp on about how the people won\’t understand the charter because…

    \”The people will only be confused if they aren’t given the opportunity to hear and understand the fundamental principles of the Charter.\”

    HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN READ AND UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE CHARTER IS. WE DON\’T HAVE TO READ NOR LISTEN TO WANNA-BES TO MAKE UP OUR MINDS ABOUT THE WHOLE CRAP THING!!!! IDIOTS!!

    Then this gubbly-gook sentence. Really what\’s the point. It seems like they cut and pasted this sentence from somewhere else, without due ref to its source.

    \”However, the people must understand that a cognitive reasoning will predominantly be enhanced by contributing factors. And those contributing factors are in fact external influence.\” WTF!!!!!!!!

    The external contributing factor is COWARDS WITH GUNS!!!! LAMUSHO!!!!!

    THEN THIS…

    \”A nation that is free from coup culture and corruption. Some people continue to advocate that history will always repeat itself.\” YES, THE MILITARY IDIOTS LIKE VORE ADVOCATE THAT HISTORY YOU DUMBASSES!!!

    OMG!!! to top it all off, mention CHRIST. Please, leave Christ in Heaven. The only one that is leading you RFMF media cell is the anti-christ!

    One sane sentence but it should read…..\”Its [sic] good to learn from our own mistakes but it is high time for us to advocate our new generation to be wise and learn from OUR mistakes. Therefore, we will have to ABOLISH THE MILITARY!

    Then they want to sound INTELLIGENT and end with this quote.

    “The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptic or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were” (John F. Kennedy 35th US President).

    GOODNESS ME, THEY DON\’T EVEN REALISE THAT THEY ARE QUOTING FROM AN ELECTED PRESIDENT!!!! RFMF Media Cell, President Kennedy didn\’t use guns to gain power. And his quote was NOT INTENDED for people like you; COWARDS! UNINTELLIGENT BEINGS!

    AND OUR DREAM IS: ABOLISH THE MILITARY!!!

    HIP! HIP! HOORAY TO THAT DREAM BLOGGERS! IT\’S COMING! SOONER OR LATER!

    Note to self RFMF Media Cell: I have to be intelligent and at least have written a thesis to try and write about things that concern a COUNTRY!

    Sega ni ka ni veimavolo na caka2 ni qaravi ni dua na matanitu.

    \”

  10. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    @ Vatalilai,

    do you mean that ‘might makes right?’

  11. Jose Says:

    FIJI THE WAY FIJI SHOULD BE AND THE WAY THE WORLD SHOULD BE

    The government is Fijian Indigenous governing in the interest that meets the needs of every Fijian Indigenous. This is Fiji and her Fijian people.The way Fiji shoul be.The way every country should be with their Indigenous peoples. Aliens wanting to live and make a home in Fiji or any other country must live peacefully with their Indigenous peoples. Aliens must have no take in in the government in the country for which they are Aliens.This is not racist.

    THE LAW OF THE HUMANS RIGHTS MAKES AMD CREATES RACISM. THIS LAW IS FLAWED AND IS CREATED TO CREATE FLAWS.

  12. Koya na Man Says:

    The narrow view lamented by this military cell about the role of the military in trying to bring new horizon by formulating the said charter is regretted.

    It is amazing that he is still fantasizing about what this so called charter, the military is referring to to be the corner stone of Fijis future, when he cannot realise the devastating effect it has done to our economy.It is obvious that he is just like another military dreamer from delainabua trying hoodwink everyone about the real reason behind this coup & coming up with this scam of delivering the Nation from evil via the charter.

    Remember it has been proven that a military Govt/Regime is a recipe for disaster for any country, and our country is a living testimony of such terrible incident.

    I sincerely request that this military cell stop dreaming & ask Bhaini.. to be a man & to face the consequence of his actons(like the CRW murders,audit of the military funds & the list goes on).Take for instance FICAC a cell set up to bring disrepute to the previous Govt.. what have they achieved todate(nothing, no more vesu mona) even chaudrys son is moaning for its scrapping(what a confused situation undermining his dads initiative)

    Forget the charter, military cell, the military should come clean because the truth will set them free.I wonder for instance if say like we scrap the military?(any idea of the impact in our country).

  13. natewaprince Says:

    Wow,did the thick lipped bugler finally learn to string a sentence together???Leweni noqu boy,rogoci au sara va vinaka noqu tagane,taura na charter qori vei nomu boso o Vore.Kabata nona muaimuri qai va’yagataka na charter me qusi kina na da kei na dra,sa rogoca ya??Vinaka,vatotolo,kauta sara vua noqu tagane.

  14. iceman Says:

    RFMF MEDIA CELL… Dou lai veitauri kau tu mada…..Useless human beings!!!!!Levu tiko na vateratera dou yavu boci….

  15. natewaprince Says:

    Does this regime think it has a monoply on brains and intelligence that it has to prepare a paper for what it deems good for us morons???Does it think that the army is collection of superior minds who are the only ones who can plot a future for this nation???

    Knowing full well what a bunch of imbeciles they are,we see the evil hands of the Snake, the Slack-arsed one and the other kaidias’ from here and abroad who are behind this charet.

    E dua ga na ka e vakavuna tiko na coup,ya na nodra via veiliutaki ena matanitu o ira na kaidia,kei na nodra via liutaki keda na i Taukei.No Indians in govt.,no coup,as simple as that.

  16. FijiGirl Says:

    The FMF media cell is fooling themselves, yet again.

    The Charter is not, and never will be, the answer to the end of coup culture.

    The end of coup culture lies in our Constitution. As Richard Naidu said in his excellent presentation at the FMC debate, the end of coup culture lies in doing the hard work, following the Constitution and the rule of law.

    I would add that the next elected government can make one important amendment to the Constitution – mandatory death penalty for any future coup perpetrators. Full stop. No back outs. No pardons. No amnesty. You want to hold a coup, you be prepared to DIE for your cause, because there ain’t no alternative.

    This current illegal regime held their coup, not for honour or a cause they were willing to die for, but because they believe they can get away with it. Well, no more. Change the Constitution, turn our backs on the UN resolution to eradicate the death penalty (USA still has dp), downsize the military, upsize the national guard, and then see who wants to play Coup-coup.

    JFK also said “Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind.”

    God bless Fiji

  17. FijiGirl Says:

    From today’s Fiji Times – Indian turned away
    AN Indian national was turned away at Nadi Airport on Monday after immigration officials realised the university he was to attend did not exist.
    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=91967

    What’s the bet that the civil servants who turned this guy away will either be disciplined, moved to a different department, or sacked?

    Chodo thinks he’s stuffing those ballot boxes already. Well, we have other plans…

    I feel a March coming on.
    God bless Fiji

  18. Linus Says:

    I offer this link to an article by Tui Rauqita in todays Fiji times as bing interesting.

    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=91944

  19. aubatinuku-N Says:

    I would probably consider the charter if all members of the media cell were “OXFORD” or “YALE” or “HAVARD” or “CAMBRIDGE” or “PRINCTON” phd graduates.

    WHAT ARE THE CHANCES??

    NONE, ZERO, SAIVA, ZILCH, NADA!!!!!

    Step aside you bunch of LOONY TUNES and let “DEMOCRACY” rule!!

  20. Striker Says:

    A nation that is free from coup culture and corruption. For one thing, the coup culture can most effectively be got rid off by abolishing the military. No guns, no coups. The sad bit is that it is the military, the very people who have been used to overthrow governments elected by the people who are now arguing, rather ignorantly in my view, that a piece of paper such as the charter, will get rid of the coup culture. No sir; the ‘jata’ is just that; when spelt backwards it reads: ‘ta-ja,’ commotion led by a party predominantly of the Indian community to act as smokescreen while they serve their purpose in appointing sympathisers to government positions, educational and other institutions and dismantle respected and hallowed Fijian institutions. Call me racist? Then look around you, see what’s happening in board membership and the FIT for example. See the multiracial make up being recommended for the military, once an institution made up mostly of Fijians not because of racist policies but because of the rigorous discipline required for those joining as well as historical reasons. Are these high military standards going to be compromised? What of the historical reasons that while our fathers gave their lives in war, the Indian cane farmers were committing treason in a strike helping the cause of the enemy? In our attempt to politically bring the races together, are we going to jettison patriotism and forget the sacrifice of those who have gone before us?
    As to getting rid of corruption, while the intention is noble, human nature is such that sin, including corruption, will always be with us. No piece of paper will eradicate corruption.
    What’s the alternative? Professional leadership of the military, teach and live the values of Christianity – love, obedience, respect, goodness, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, discipline and self-control; teach and live the values of democracy and good governance-the rule of law, respect for the Constitution, independent judiciary, elected representative government, transparency, accountability, equity, justice, fairness etc.
    There I rest my case.

  21. Keep The Faith Says:

    Against…and for the record what in the blazes is all this Fuckery?

    If anything this is an indication that the RFMF Media Cell and therefore the IG is not immune to strong public reactions from the blogosphere (if you can’t beat em join em eh Media Cell?)

    Since they are in “reactive” mode, please keep blogging people and keep them on the left foot reacting because they’ve done sweet bugger all in their attempts to take this country “forward”.

  22. Ispy Says:

    RFMF media cell said:-

    “It is sad to say that within the past 20 years, we’ve had elections appointing democratic governments but Fiji’s problem continue to worsen resulting in the overthrowing of elected governments”

    What they meant to say was “…Fiji’s problem continue to worsen BECAUSE OF the overthrowing of elected governments BY FIJI”S MILITARY.”

    This is typical military propoganda and its not even good propoganda at that! In fact it looks very much like the work Mohammed Aziz, with a touch of Leweni.

    Its shallow and fools no one but themselves!

  23. Anon Says:

    Frank Bainimarama’s demented and incoherent procession of coup and post-coup justifications is almost as amusing as it is frustrating. First it was National Security. Then it was Clean-Up and Good Governance. Then it was the President’s Mandate. Then it was Clean-Up again. Then it was National Unity and removing racism. Then it was Building a Better Fiji. Then it was National Security again. And just the other week, we’ve heard that it has now reverted back to the anti-Corruption Values of the Charter.

    One can tell though this was probably not a serious statement, as everyone knows values are not legislated. Rather if they are adopted at all, they will be learned through observation and practice. That being the case, it is not the failure of the SDL to support the Charter that is obstructing these Charter values from widespread adoption. Rather, it is simply the Regime’s own failure to live out and demonstrate those values itself, which is preventing the people from taking them seriously.

    That means the best way for the Commander to impart an anti-corruption “culture” to the people, is to first implement and demonstrate it within his own sphere of influence, ie. Cabinet and the Military!

    So when we see copies of the Regimental Fund Audit tabled, or the Haryana Funds investigated and tracked down, or the 2007 Auditor General’s report recommendations being actioned, then we will know that the Commander is really serious about Cleaning Up.

    But until that time, we can only interpret the Commander’s actions as speaking louder than his words. In which case we can see that the main values he is currently bent on imparting to the military and the people of Fiji, must be: promise-breaking, unlawfulness, rights-abuse, manipulation and conspiracy, interference and meddling, dishonesty, vindictiveness, prejudice, bullying, stubbornness, tunnel-vision, stupidity, irrationality, arbitrariness, childishness, malignant narcissism and mercenary self-interest!

  24. Groggymaster Says:

    The IG should form its own party, ally with labour and go to the electorate with their taxpayer funded charter (manifesto).

    My vote will go to the party that presents the manifesto I like, has a history of prosecuting (albeit relunctantly) past coup plotters/perpetrators, vigorously prosecutes the present coup/plotters perpetrators, and promulgates the qoliqoli bill.

    Commentators are entitled to their opinion, but the will of the people must prevail.

    Remember the last elections, where inspite of the army’s grass roots campaign against it (at taxpayers expense), SDL still won? That was the will of the people.

    Forget all the fancy vocabulary, I am a landowner, and it is my culture, heritage, land, sea, and minerals you are talking about. There is nothing racist about holding on to and protecting my! MY! rights. It is not racist to protect my rights and my heritage.

    There is nothing racist about how I want to share MY heritage.
    There is nothing racist about not exploiting MY heritage today, tomorrow, next year or never. It is Mine to do with as I please
    If you want to access my lands, my qoliqoli rights, my minerals it will be done with MY consent and on MY terms and conditions. Not governments, not tenants, not foreigners, not other landowners or other relatives say so.

    What law in the world says I have to do it at some strangers pleasure ? What law in the world says I have to do it at for the benefit of others ?- None. I will exploit my resourses at my leisure and foremost for my benefit first.

    However as we are all travellers in the same boat of life, I am prepared to make the necessary concessions that benefit us all, but first and foremost it must be acknowledged that my possessions are owned by me, others must respect that I own them. My assets are not an entitlement that others think they have access to as a right!!!!!

  25. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Is it just me? Somehow the words “MEDIA CELL” bring to mind the famous “TERRORIST CELL”.

  26. Linus Says:

    @ANON; In the Commanders list of Values that he is “teaching” his audience have you not forgotten “Use of Gangs to Brutalize, Murder and Intimidate the innocent??

  27. natewaprince Says:

    a-N,that’s where you and I differ.

    Media cell.

    Scientific name: Multiple Wankus Corruptus.

    A collection of foul smelling slimey organisms which congregate in small dark places.They have a habit of appearing in peoples windows during the darkest of nights.Because they are cooped up together for long periods of time,they are also known to climb on each others back to keep warm,especially the alpha males back (aka bugler)
    Continuos inbreeding over the years has led to its moronic look and idiotic behaviour.

    Control:It is best to ignore this pest because they are so thick in the head that they couldn’t harm a fly.If left alone long enough,their inbreeding will eventually lead to their demise.

  28. Linus Says:

    Hey, this is a good read. Jagannath Samy tearing up Chodonomics on Suger.

    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?ref=archive&id=91855

  29. Wailei! Says:

    Utter Rubbish coming from you arses @ Media Cell!
    I cant believe the Media Cell got quotes from JFK! Here is one for you….

    A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.
    John F. Kennedy

    or:

    …… ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
    John F. Kennedy

    In this case media cell this is what you did…

    …..ask not what your country can do for you; ask how can you fuck the country over!

    Emeni….

  30. Tebara Says:

    Quote tiko vei ratou na media cell …uwoooooo ra vivutu kecega na no brainers, must have taken them ages to come up with those quotes … 🙂 !!

  31. Digger Says:

    What proof do we have that this article came from the RFMF Media Cell? It doesn’t seem like a piece written by any of the likes of them (note no grammatical errors)…their writting skills leave much to be desired…I think we should just ignore this crap because it definitely did not come from the media cell!

  32. Koya na Man Says:

    I reckon that media cell has got the message now(loud & clear).

    We don’t want the charter,o.k… we uphold the 1997 constitution.

    Fiji Girl said it right one more clause for the consti… all future coup plotters should face the death penalty, like a man..THis pardon rubbish should no longer be entertained, it has evolved a coup culture in our land.Let’s do business like a man, & stop being kids.

  33. Mark Manning Says:

    fijigirl and linus
    so is this where the IG is getting it’s funding from ? I wonder who is behind this human trafficking , hopefully the Transnational organisation responsible for this type of crime will find out . As you know , they have moved Office out of Suva because of the IG’s inability to deal with these types of crimes .
    Linus , have you read today’s Fiji Times regarding the chief being evicted from his home in Suva ? Is this a sign that even the chiefs are not bonding . If this is the case , how can they be given the responsibility of choosing a President and Vice President . Maybe that should be done by either popular vote of the people or by all members of Parliament as a popular vote only seems to have the wrong person elected for the wrong reason . For example , I’ll vote for ? because he’s a good rugby player ! In the Philippines , they had an actor , I know , so did America but the President’s role in Fiji , is different .

  34. NobleBannerBlue Says:

    GUYS LETS ANALYSE THIS PARA BY PARA…

    LESS then ten months from today the people of this nation as well as members of the international community would realise how their effort contributed towards the shaping of Fiji’s new horizon to be ‘The Way the World Should Be’. Whether the effort is positive or negative it is how you have contributed to the shaping of our future Fiji.

    WHAT IF WE DONT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS A FUTILE EXERCISE… WILL U FORCE US 2 OR MERELY DO IT ON YOUR OWN AND CALL IT THE PEOPLE’S CHARTER…(ALBEIT THAT IT IS NOT BY THE PEOPLE)

    Undoubtedly no one can deny the fact that this nation has a prolonged dilemma which has been tormenting this nation for the past 20 years
    Prominent members of society have differed in views and solutions, but none made an effort to rectify them.

    PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING U CANT RECTIFY IT – JUST RECOGNISE AND LIVE WITH IT THAT IS WHAT ENLIGHTENED SOCIETIES DO. ANYWAY DONT WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION THAT GUARANTEES CERTAIN FREEDOMS – MOVEMENT, RELIGION, BELIEFS…

    Fiji’s problems appeared through the political behavior of this nation where racial discrimination was a tool for political power. his has injected racial differences amongst the people especially between the Indo Fijians and the Indigenous people. Unfortunately as the United Nations is committed to the elimination of racial discrimination, racial difference in Fiji became polarised every year.

    WELL WE HAVE A MULTI PARTY CABINET TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES ALREADY ENSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION NO LESS.

    It has also drastically affected the nation’s development resulting from development schemes which ended in scandalous scams.

    COUPS HAVE DRASTICALLY AFFECTED THE NATIONS DEVELOPMENT, EACH ONE TAKING THE COUNTRY BACK YEARS…. BEING DENIED AID AND BLACKLISTED FROM BENEFICIAL SCHEMES DO NOT ASSIST AT ALL..

    The Interim Government and RFMF have introduced a solution to Fiji’s problem titled the Peoples Charter for Change, Peace and Progress (PCCPP) which will shape a new horizon for this beloved nation.
    The solution is intended to improve governance and the delivery of government services equally and timely to the society.

    THE LESS SAID ABOUT THIS THE BETTER… BUT IT IS NOT BY THE PEOPLE… I SURE AS HELL DIDNT CHOOSE THE IG OR RFMF OR THE NBBCF TO DICTATE TO ME A CHARTER I DO NOT WANT

    Politicians as well as leaders of neighboring nations stated that a free, fair and the election of a democratic government is the solution to Fiji’s problem. It is sad to say that within the past 20 years, we’ve had elections appointing democratic governments but Fiji’s problem continue to worsen resulting in the overthrowing of elected governments.

    AND WHO HAVE BEEN BEHIND THE MAJORITY OF THE OVERTHROWS… THE MILITARY…

    There are people and organisations that oppose the formulation of the Charter and continue to raise contradicting ideas to counteract the effort of the Interim Government in educating the populace on the issue.

    CANT THE RFMF SEE THAT THESE PEOPLE OR ORGANISATIONS MAY HAVE A POINT AND DROP THE CHARTER ALREADY

    National Federation Party General Secretary Pramod Rae said that people were confused about the Charter. The people will only be confused if they aren’t given the opportunity to hear and understand the fundamental principles of the Charter.

    OK SO WHAT IS THE CHARTER? LIKE STATED IN THE DEBATES.. WILL IT CREATE JOBS, BRING FOOD ON THE TABLE, WATER IN THE TAPS…

    Some political parties kept on harping that the formulation of a Charter or a document which is intended to end the coup culture and corruption in Fiji will be futile as the practice eventuate without external apparent influence.

    WELL HOW WILL THE CHARTER PREVENT ANOTHER COUP FROM BEING CARRIED OUT IN THE FUTURE.. CAN U PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT….

    However, the people must understand that a cognitive reasoning will predominantly be enhanced by contributing factors. And those contributing factors are in fact external influence.Apparently we have at least less than ten months to determine our future Fiji.

    A nation that is free from coup culture and corruption. Some people continue to advocate that history will always repeat itself.

    Does that mean Jesus Christ will be crucified for a second time and again at Calvary?

    WAFFLE WAFFLE WAFFLE ….

    The people must be committed to the shaping our new horizon, where history is intended not to repeat itself.

    HOW CAN PEOPLE COMMIT TO SHAPING A NEW HORIZON WHEN THEY ARE UNSURE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY…

    Its good to learn from our own mistakes but it is high time for us to advocate our new generation to be wise and learn from other peoples mistakes.

    DUH… THIS IS SELF EXPLANATORY BUT APPARENTLY IT DOESNT APPLY TO THE IG OR RFMF… SHOULDNT THEY PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH… NO MORE COUPS… END OF COUP CULTURE… WHILE ALL THE WHILE USURPING THE POWER OF A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVT…

    “The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptic or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities.

    We need men who can dream of things that never were” (John F. Kennedy 35th US President).

    THESE PEOPLE NEED A HEALTHY DOSE OF REALITY UNFORTUNATELY…

  35. Ablaze Says:

    To Digger, who cares where the article came from. Its crap just like the military themselves. A whole bunch of wankers, that can’t even think or fight for themselves. Include them to the Scum of the Earth.

    Fiji needs to shame people like Rabuka, still writing for F/Ts, Mara children for their father supporting Rabuka and allowing himself to be Interim PM after the Rabuka Coup, Chief Justice Tuivaga who is now enjoying retirement for not stepping down and others alive today in Fiji that allowed Rabuka to get away with breaching the law.

    Mara children, Gaunilau, Nailatikau, Finau Tabukaicoro, Bole etc etc etc should be made to walk around with tails between their legs.

    More terrorists cells will come up if we do not do something about these people. Shame them! Shame them! Take that man Rabuka out of Suva and put him anywhere so that we do not have to read what he has to say.

    Only in Fiji – Rabuka, coup maker is allowed to philosophize to the nation what and how we should think every bloody Sunday!

  36. Ablaze Says:

    Too Much high powered stuff has been written, said and analysed and its not getting us anywhere. This junta has taken it upon themselves to governor the nation of Fiji. We have no choice but to put up with all their crap and worse still obey and can’t go against them.

    Fancy poor Eliki Bomani working in the PM’s office under duress I should think. Many of the civil servants would be working under the same situation but have no choice because they need to put food on the table.

    Have great pity for these people and please pray for them.

  37. newsfiji Says:

    To the Media Cell of RFMF: it will only end when you learn to respect the rule of law. You guys in the military are the first ones to break the law if it doesn’t suit you – you’re no different from the common thief.

    You should be ashamed of yourselves putting out this article!

  38. Ablaze Says:

    Like it newsfiji we all should be rubbing it in, thick, strong and chillie hot!

  39. Pusiloa Says:

    RFMF Media Cell,
    Sa rogo vinaka nomudou tuvana mai nomudou vakamacala..Qai dou lai caita sara…..

  40. qilaqila Says:

    I think the analogy of Jesus Christ borders on bad taste and blasphemy. To argue that he might be re-crucified assumes that there is no God whose purpose Jesus came here to do.
    And what’s this clinging to labels going to achieve? Racial discrimination…is wrong, but being pro indigenous, iTaukei isn’t!

  41. Katalina Balawanilotu Says:

    RFMF media Cell

    Qalaitamamudou !!!!!!!

  42. Save the Sheep Says:

    It has all been said above and it is a real shame that the RFMF and its Brain Washed Goons no longer have the perceptive intelligence required to properly evaluate their directions and thoughts.

    They have become so committed to their own plan of action that they cannot see the valid points made by others and cannot accept criticism. They and the IG have Lost the Plot and worse still simply cannot accept it or see it.

    For as good as the Charter MIGHT be it cannot be a meaningful document if it is forced on us. I have heard it quoted by a senior Military Man that:

    “If the 80% don’t agree with us then we will have to get rid of the 80%”. (In reference to the clear majority of Fijians who voted SDL)

    The FLP and its supporters who love this coup should hear this quote and consider the consequences of it.

    History dictates to us that the way of the Dictator while often providing short term benefits and gains, ultimately ends up in revolution and depending upon the degree of suppression it has imposed this revolution will be more or less Bloody.

    History also tells us that no matter how good or right you think you are, if you apply suppressive strategies, then one day it comes back to bite you. Even the Church found this out the hard way during the times of Jesus and later during the days of the Spanish Inquisition.

    Fiji is Fiji and has as its core the Fijian race of people. Every Country has as its base a Race of people and it is this character that brings the diversity we need on the planet to survive. Over time the Melting Pot of races has grown but all races who live in Scotland for example are aware and proud of Scottish traditions and processes and even adopt their accents.

    Fiji can and will be no different. Indo-Fijians and other races can build and contribute to Fiji as much as they like but they cannot discount the Fijianess of Fiji. We are all proud when our Fijian Warriors win at Rugby and we all love the music and the dance.

    The RFMF has clearly lost the plot. There is no Honour left in the Corp and while it could be argued that it was lost in 1987, I suspect the the RFMF lost it once British Command of it was lost.

    What Army would make the niece of their only Victoria Cross winner crawl on the ground and kiss the boots of the RFMF officers lined up right in front of that V.C. displayed at the Officer’s Mess???? This is not honour.

    What Army would just feel the need to bite the hand that feeds it by turning on its own citizens whenever it wants to. The citizens who pay their salaries and supply their Armoury.? This is not Honour.

    What the RMF Media Cell are suggestion comes from a group of people who do not understand the meaning of the word ‘Honour’.

    Perhaps more sad has been the deafining silence and the lack of real resistance to this coup since December 6 2006. Perhaps we as Fijian people have lost our sense of honour as well and reading the rubbish put forward by the RFMF Media Cell only highlights this horrible possibility.

  43. Dauvavana Says:

    @Digger, the same article was published in the Daily Post recently

  44. Paddler Says:

    @ RFMF Media Cell – Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

  45. Digger Says:

    this piece was written by that idiot raturala! the one that got fired from FBCL and acts like a commissioned officer taking salutes but…ahem hasnt been gazetted! he isnt a part of the media cell! he currently has no job and at one stage was sucking up to the commander to be made the director of information! hahaha what a farce!

  46. Peace Pipe Says:

    Media empty brain cell has just let out a flush load of crap like an accumulation during a week long constipation. Its all baloney we all know and they have once again failed to brain wash us with all these mindbenders. We are well above their intellect to fall for any of these crap which is just their window dressing to the reality of the situation which is that they are trying all ways and means of getting out of the bind they are in with this coup. So if the majority of the people will accept the charter it will mean their all actions to date is accepted and they are legal having the people’s mandate to justify it. No we won’t accept the charter now. We have constitution and that’s fair enough. Only that the constitution does not deal severely with coup perpetrators.

    Adikaila is right when she said this bunch of wanking coupsters did it because they think they can get away with it. We the people should decide what we want and not a bunch of low life low intellects in the army.

  47. Say True! Says:

    Brilliant piece. If only it was true! Deception at it’s best >> Again typical of the defensive mechanism of the octopus to spit black ink clouding things to escape from predators. Action speaks louder than beautifully articulated words. This was an act of Treason. Simply inexcusable.

  48. Digger Says:

    @ peace pipe….tut tut tut so much malice for someone who purpots peace in ones name

  49. EnufDictatorship Says:

    @ Digger…find it here bro if u\’r still looking. Totolo de qai archivetaki tale.

  50. EnufDictatorship Says:

    http://www.fijidailypost.com/feature.php?date=20080609&index=534

  51. Mossad Says:

    Lets analyse the cause of the problem,……RFMF..fullstop….

  52. digger Says:

    @ enuffdictatorship…thanks guy

  53. Peace Pipe Says:

    Digger. after 18 months of waiting in vain for peace progress and prosperity to return to our country one cant help being malicious about the people who caused all these suffering and madness. The peace pipe was offered but not accepted by them so we have to be critical of such attitude.

  54. EnufDictatorship Says:

    @ Mossad..US sane, intelligent, earthly beings know that huh…

    leqa gona ni o ratou mai na RFMF Cell BLOCK ratou warai ni siqema rawa..maybe becos they\’re cooped up in their cell block and having to inhale all the smelly bodily functions emanating from their behinds has made their brains go hey-why. Thus, the incoherent shite coming from their cell.

  55. EnufDictatorship Says:

    @BU-KANA-DHA…LUVENI BAKU VAVAKU O IKO!!!!!!!! TAURA NA NOMU KEI NA NEI TUKAMU DRAU VEIDRE MADA.

    KULINA!!!!! KO NA BOI TIKO MAI YA..NA KULIMU VAVAKU!!! BAU LAI SAVA MADA

  56. ex GI JOURNO Says:

    @ peacepipe…you got some smoke? Why don’t we all just pipe up and chill!maybe then the regime will accept the pipe lol!
    And you all blame the media cell, do you even know who makes up the cell? A bunch of other ranks (privates and corporals) that don’t have any power or say in anything! There are bigger cowards who use the cell as a mask to hide their bociness…people like that no job raturala who got fired from fbcl and now sits on the bloody board! What a joke!

  57. Tim Says:

    @ qilaqila

    I totally agree with you and believe that the analogy is indeed gross blasphemy. The analogy is clear evidence of the height of ignorance that breeds arrogance. Jesus Christ will never be physically crucified for the second time as his onetime action was sufficient to save those who turn to accept him by loving and respect their neighbours as do to themselves. He had done his part and the door is open to us. Kemudou mai na keba, e vinaka mo dou vakayagataka vakavinaka na nomudou chapel kei na nomudou i Talatala me dusimaka vei kemudou na gaunisala dodonu. E na sega ni mate vakarua na Turaga Ko Jisu Karisito. Na mate ga e sa vakarau, oya o kemudou na sotia e na nomudou sa kalawaca na nomudou i yatu ka vakalolomataka na bula ni tamata. Ko dou na dokai sara vakalevu ka vosoti kevaka ko ni sa veisau ka gole tani mai na gaunisala koni muria tiko.

  58. Tim Says:

    @ Tim 8:16
    You haven’t got your impersonations down well enough. Maybe a few are fooled

  59. Jose Says:

    @ Tim!!!!!!!!!! You write perfect Fijian. You quote scriptures too. And I thought you were a white man!!!!!!!!!
    See, sooner or later it’s gonna come out. One cannot separate the scriptures from the Fijian. Its in- bred in us young and old alike. Without a doubt, Fiji, we are a blessed people.
    Bless you Tim and every bloggers

    God Bless Fiji

  60. EnufDictatorship Says:

    Hey BuTaDhrau\’s idiotic comment is now NOWHERE! YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

    Sa malo SV!

    @Jose..I think what Tim 10:56 (the kaivalagi?) is saying is that Tim 8:16 (perfect Fijian) is NOT HIM/IT/HER. Two different Tims, that is…sa voleka tale me rau Tim-Tams

  61. Jose Says:

    @ EnufDictatorship
    Sa dina. Sa dina. I was responding to 8:16 then after 10:56 went to bed feeling like …….

    @ Tim
    My apologies for the comments of white man.

  62. Seini Says:

    What this little vunau forgets is that the RFMF threw out by force of arms the first multi-party cabinet in Fiji’s history. The 1997 Constitution secured agreement on the need for a multi-party cabinet but it took Laisenia Qarase to deliver it. When you say no prominent members of society have made an effort to rectify Fiji’s deep-seated problems, you over look this momentous change and the man who made it. Ratu Mara talked about a Government of National Unity but he couldn’t deliver rt. Chaudhry made no serious attempt in 1999. By throwing out the multi-party government in 2006 you, the RFMF, destroyed the best chance Fiji had to realize the dream of becoming the way the world should be.

  63. Striker Says:

    @ Seini. Yes, not only did the military destroy the best chance of our unity, they committed treason for which they should and will be held accountable. If PM Qarase can be charged, so can Bainimarama and his goons!

  64. EnufDictatorship Says:

    @Seini..Well said gal!

    And to add to that Mahen Pal was also NOT VERY COOPERATIVE during his time as the other half of the multi-party.

    Rem., when he kind of crossed to the other side to be the opposition when he was meant to be part of the gov. DO I rem., right?

    Oh maybe he was just trying to push his FLP agenda?

    Coupled with that uncooperative attitude, the arrogant attitude of Vore, and what do we get? A demise in our economy, the devastating effects, which is felt now in our beloved Fiji.

  65. Glawyer Says:

    And now some of these idiots are being given jobs at the ministry of information by another idiot Lewinsky…..anyone remember ‘no military personnel shall benefit from the coup’……Vore….tonoka ga nomu aiyarse!!

  66. painter Says:

    Yaaaawn @ the wanna-be media sellers.

    Just curious………. but if this is anr Tim trying to impersonate the good ‘ol original Tim who has been blogging since last year, then how come they have the same icon, colour and design……… it’s because they have the same e-address. So maybe, the original Tim should check whose sharing his PC.

  67. Fiji Democracy Now Says:

    The tortured logic in the media cell’s document is all the more disturbing if one assumes that it’s the best they can do.

    Yet in its childish way it still manages to convey the substance of the military-backed regime’s intention, which is to establish a political system in Fiji that gives the military an oversight role.

    Moreover, given the dictator’s recent precondition of “no charter, no election” we know that the political system being proposed could not possibly be based on democratic principles, as the proponents like to pretend.

    Rather, if one takes into account all the dictator’s preconditions, the “future Fiji” that emerges is closer to Burma under its military than to any democracy we know of.

    An increasing number of Fiji people can see this all too clearly. But like the downtrodden Burmese, they know they cannot argue with guns.

  68. Budhau Says:

    Hey dude – as Ratu Joni said – give them the benefit of the doubt – lets see what they come with in the charter – then take issue with the specifics.

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