Pros and Cos of the Charter – J. Navakamocea

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Read this in the Fiji Sun (22/4) and found it vey interesting especially coming from somebody who served under this IG. At the end, is his (JN) letter to the FS editor today 26/4

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As we all know Jone Navakamocea was an SDL turncoat, we shall read this and take in the opinion witha grain of salt!! 😉

Pros and cons of the charter

My body and mind shuddered in trepidation when I read the article ‘Serua all for People’s Charter’. As a legitimate and elected representative of the people of Serua and Navosa and having traditional and blood links to the chiefly household of Korolevu, I am obliged and would like to offer some caution in their support of the charter.
Rather than giving a blanket support to the charter as a way forward for Fiji, it is critical that the council be selective in their support of the charter. There are some positive aspects of the charter and as well as negative. I am not condemning the charter in totality. I am supporting some components of it and particularly wary of some. I am in support of the issues that would be addressed by NTT2, NTT3, NTT4, and NTT6.
In any case the charter has not been formulated nor documented. The main parameters of the charter have been written through a proposal outlining its main sections and the Consultation Document.
It is important that we take advantage of the charter consultation process and make our views known on what should be included and what should not, in the body of the charter.
I whole heartedly agree with some commentators that there already exist a charter through the 1997 Constitution and the Multi Party SDP 2007-2011. The charter can be taken as the Constitution, the Strategic Development Plan or a political manifesto of the Fiji Labour Party -call it what you like! It is a combination of the three.
In hindsight, the charter and NCBBF is a wasteful exercise because it is a replication of the consultative machinery used in formulating the SDP. In fact, the charter in its final form is almost the SDP all over – you could almost call it the duplicate copy of the SDP. The only difference is legitimacy. The SDP was prepared by an elected Government while the charter is being prepared by the interim government supported by the military.
But the Charter goes deeper than the SDP, particularly the issues that will be addressed by the National Task Team 1 [NTT1] on Good Governance and NTT 5 on Access to Land and Land Utilisation.
The issues that will be addressed by these two taskforce teams are overly sensitive and have many implications on the existence and status of the indigenous community, future leadership position of our beloved country and their ownership of natural resources. Therefore, I would plead that all Provincial Councils examine these sections of the charter very carefully and with prudence make strong submissions to ensure that our status, leadership position as indigenous community and ownership of resources are not compromised. Provincial councils should effectively utilise their “think tanks” and legal minds in the consultation process and make submissions. Hence, my view that those who wish to support the charter should be selective in their support rather than giving it a blanket support.
Like it or not the charter is a political document that provides the mechanism for constitutional, political and social re-engineering and configuration that would result in the marginalisation and alienation of the indigenous community. One needs to note that the charter attempts to do away with raced-based programmes and a raced based electoral system. Race is a fact of life. It is biological, God given and one’s identity.
Until and unless there is recognition of the inherent racial differences and problems amongst communities in Fiji and recognise and respect our differences and come to the common ground, there can never be long term mutual coexistence, tolerance, goodwill and understanding.
We must deal with our racial differences and not just sweep it under the carpet as we are attempting to do with the charter by prematurely introducing a non racial electoral system and merit based equality of opportunity. The charter promotes merit-based equality of opportunity.
What is meant by merit-based equality of opportunity? The easiest answer that came to mind is that equality of opportunity should be on merit meaning that those who deserve to be assisted should be assisted. This is good because it implies that those who work hard and meet the requirements would be assisted that is indigenous Fijians, Indians and Others [including minority groups].
However, we need to examine this term carefully. Is equality of opportunity that is espoused by the charter the same as ‘equality of access to opportunity’ that is contained in the Social Justice Act, 2001. I think not. Note that the term in the charter has omitted an important factor – access. Whether this was a deliberate omission by the proponents of the charter or a typographical omission will need to be ascertained.
I fear that this will only widen the disparity between those that work hard and meet the criteria against those that do not because of other limitations and factors and between those that have access to opportunity while those that don’t.
Majority of the Fijians because they live in rural areas, remoter regions and outer islands have problems of equal access to opportunities, even though they own the resources. So, if equality of opportunity must be on merit and earned, indigenous Fijians will only be marginalised further and the gap will widen further.
Indigenous Fijians own the land, but most in rural areas lack good education facilities and attainment and more importantly lack the capital [money] to turn around these assets productively to increase their livelihoods and alleviate poverty.
Will merit based equality of opportunity ever achieve its desired result is as good as anyone’s guess? Not when the Minister of Finance and National Planning attempted to remove funding of the $1.5 million Development Assistance fund to the 14 provincial councils including Rotuma from the 2008 Budget. His excuse was that the provincial councils have failed to provide acquittals on how the funds were utilised in 2006 and 2007. The solution to this reasoning from the Minister of Finance is that you make provision of the allocation in the 2008 Budget but only provide funding allocation to those provincial councils that have fully provided their expenditure acquittals for 2006 and 2007. But just do not penalise the provincial councils by not providing any funding at all in the 2008 Budget. With some hard discussions and persuasions during the finalisation of the 2008 Budget, the allocation was finally reinstated in the 2008 Budget. This is just one example. Is this a sign of things to come when the charter is adopted and implemented? I hope not.
The charter as proposed is also seen to be in conflict with the affirmative action policies in the Social Justice Act, 2001.
In fact the charter will bring an end to the affirmative action policies and programmes developed by the SDL Government in 2001, if we are to strictly apply the definition of merit based equality of opportunity. Affirmative action is “the protective or preferential treatment of persons in employment, the admission to selective schools and universities, and the granting of other social goods and resources by giving positive consideration to specified races and ethnicities and to one gender” (Crosby, 1996).
It is apparent from the above definition and from the objectives of the charter and its merit based equality of opportunity concept that the charter will see the death of affirmative action programmes and the Social Justice Act, 2001. Merit based equality of opportunity assumes or implies that preferential treatment through the affirmative action programmes under the Social Justice Act, 2001 will no longer be accorded to disadvantaged groups.
Furthermore, the charter consultation document has put too much emphasis discussing equality and less emphasis on equity in terms of disadvantaged groups.
But let us look at the definition of equality and equity to give us a better understanding of how the charter will be framed. Equality is an expectation of even-handed treatment – to be treated equally. “In any given circumstances, people who are the same in those respects relevant to how they are treated in those circumstances should receive the same treatment” (Shapiro, Jay & Corinne, 2007). This definition implies that equality concentrates on the individual and the circumstances surrounding him or her. It does not focus on group differences, based on factors such as race, sex, social class, ethnicity, and disability. Shapiro, Jay and Corinne further state that the definition assumes that the individual has been assimilated into the society and should not be hampered by traditional expectations and stereotypes.
Has there been any real assimilation in Fiji of different ethnic groups? Are we ready for a merit based equality [non racial] Constitution, merit based equality [non racial] electoral system and merit based equality programmes and assistance? Will a common roll and a one man-one vote system bring about greater assimilation and integration of the two major races? Will it ever create a non racial Fiji? The answers for these questions are best left to the readers.
The results of the 2007 population census definitely favours indigenous Fijians if a common roll is adopted as proposed in the charter, because they now comprise about more than 55 per cent of the population. However, it will not be that easy. I have been informed from reliable sources that the Architects of the Charter have designed a criterion that those who wish to stand in the election must demonstrate and show that they have more than $30,000 in their personal bank accounts. If this is true than certainly the criteria could eliminate Indigenous Fijian candidates and favor candidates of Indian descent. Recently, the IG has endorsed that former Fiji nationals living overseas be given PR Status to entice them to come to Fiji and invest. This is good because it means brain gain for the Fijian economy and will definitely favour Fiji nationals of Indian descent from overseas. Are we anticipating that these former Fiji nationals who now live and hold PR Status in NZ and other countries to also participate in the national referendum and future elections when they have acquired the necessary PR requirements and necessary legislative changes have been made? On the other hand, equity “deals with differences and takes into consideration the fact that this society has many groups in it who have not always been given equal treatment and/ or have not had a level field on which to play. These groups have been frequently made to feel inferior to those in the mainstream and some have even been oppressed.” [Shapiro, Jay & Corinne, 2007].
One should note that merit based equality of opportunity that is proposed in the Charter places more emphasis on those who deserve to be assisted because they have met the criteria. They have met the criteria because they have it or are better off or well off than the other groups or individuals that have not met the criteria. The Charter does not place emphasis on equity nor needs based programmes and assistance. How then does the Charter address the groups that will be left out of these merit based equality programmes and assistance – i.e. those that do not meet the criteria – the residual and fallouts of merit based equality of opportunity? How do we assist those poor students that do not meet the criteria of scholarships given under the merit based equality of opportunity programmes if the Charter ends preferential assistance under the affirmative action programme?
The Charter will also see an end to the 50:50 employment opportunity criteria by the Public Service Commission. Instead recruitment and employment will be on merit based equality of opportunity, implying that those who strictly meet the criteria will be recruited. It will also see the move towards performance based contract. This is good because it implies that those only who have the necessary qualifications and are seen to be the best candidate will be considered for employment.Researchers and educationists in the United States of America have concluded that many policy decisions on merit based equality of opportunity programmes in educational institutions have negatively impacted participation of the disadvantaged in higher education over the past two decades and have widen the gap or disparity. “The shift from needs and equity based educational assistance and scholarships to merit based assistance and institutional scholarships have worked against both equality and equity. They neither provide all students the same opportunities nor provide an advantage to a specific group. Instead these polices have tended to reinforce the status quo and narrow the range of benefiting students able to benefit.” [Shapiro, Jay, Corinne, 2007.
Affirmative action policies for disadvantage groups have recently been legislated under the Social Justice Act of 2001 which allows government to provide preferential treatment and assistance to disadvantage groups and individuals. The Architects of the Charter are proposing to introduce merit based equality of opportunity when preferential treatment under the affirmative action programme has just taken off the ground and has achieved some positive results in the seven years of its existence. In Fiji the two major ethnic groups are Fijians and Indians.
America the most diverse nation in the world in terms of its ethnic composition began implementing affirmative action under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which aimed to end discrimination against African Americans. Affirmative action focused exclusively on black Americans. There was a definite need for affirmative action because there was a clear distinction between the two major races, the white majority and the black minority. Over the years, affirmative action has shifted its focus to other ethnic minority groups.
In November, 1996, the State of California abolished affirmative action when its voters approved Proposition 209 which promotes a merit based ethic over preferential treatment under affirmative action in an attempt to create equality and fairness for all. Proposition 209 states “The State shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting” (Nagel, 1998).
There has been a significant increase in the participation and achievement of African Americans in the State since the inception of the affirmative action in 1964. “Since the 1960s, the percentage of affluent black Americans has more than doubled. Between 1979 and 1991, the number of black accountants increased by 479 per cent, the number of black lawyers by 280 per cent, and the number of black computer programmers by 343 per cent. Also during this time period, blacks comprised 41 per cent of all new police officers. Today, approximately 1.3 million blacks work in government service. Compared to figures from 1964, there are four times as many black families with incomes above $50,000 a year, thus creating a substantial black middle class (Nagel, 1998).
It took the United States, a diverse multi ethnic country, more than 30 years to abolish affirmative action under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and replaced it with Proposition 209 after having attained significant progress and achievements in the participation of African American in the economy. Why then are the Architects of the Charter attempting to end affirmative action prematurely when it has just been implemented in 2001 and has just begun to show some positive results with indigenous Fijians and other minority groups? Should we allow affirmative action under the Social Justice Act, 2001 to continue and review it every ten (10) years as spelled out in the Act?
The concept paper and the consultation document of the Charter have used very convincing and persuasive phrases and arguments to justify the Charter process and the Charter itself. The biggest test for the Charter is whether it will ensure the protection and paramountcy of indigenous Fijian interests, Fijian institutions and resources as enshrined in the Fijian Affairs Act and Regulations and the NLTB Act and moreover the validity of the Compact Chapter of the 1997 Constitution.
I doubt the Charter will strengthen and make Fijian institutions effective and relevant. The Charter could very well lead to the disintegration and weakening of indigenous Fijian institutions and divide the Fijian community further and contribute to the further polarisation of the two major ethnic communities.
Page 22, 3rd paragraph spells out “the appropriate role of government is to specify property rights (that is, to decide who can own or lease land and other things)…”. This could be taken to mean that first and foremost, Government will from now onwards through the Charter, under the Committee for the Better Utilisation of Land [CBUL] will decide how best land is to be owned and leased thus downplaying the role of the NLTB and landowners in deciding tenancy arrangements and utilisation of their land.
Page 22, 4th paragraph, the document has labeled Government over its inability to define property rights and its inability to apply a normal market rate lease rentals and persuade landowners to make more land available for leasing. One should note that since the SDL Government came into power in 2001, it has made several genuine attempts to address these by proposing a 50 years lease and at the same time raising the threshold for land rent assessment to 10 per cent u.c.v. This proposition received overwhelming support from the landowners and also many tenants. However, if anyone that has failed miserably to address the interest of tenant farmers and lessees, it is the Leader of the Fiji Labour Party who had influenced the FLP and the tenant farmers in the sugarcane belts not to accept the proposition. He had his own personal and political interests above the interest of the farmers and the nation. So why the sudden change of tune in the Charter?
The so called “Architects of the Charter” must be genuine, honest and come clean in their dealings in informing the public and particularly the indigenous community and their leaders of the underlying objectives of the Charter. Let it be known that the interim Prime Minister and the military are not the architects of the Charter. They are just the facilitators. The “Architects of the Charter” will never reveal the underlying objective or the hidden agenda of the Charter. But it is for the indigenous community and their leaders to read between the lines and critically assess and dissect the wider implications of the Charter to them and also to the wider community.
I liken the Charter to a well baked pie that has just come out from a baker’s oven looking colorful and tasty with its top dressing of custard, fruit salad, and peaches coupled with its sweet aroma permeating the room. Listening to the Charter PR Team and some members of the NCBBF talking about the Charter, I can only conclude that the Baker has done a good job in baking and dressing the pie and freezing and captivating their minds about the taste and benefits of eating the pie. The PR Team and some members of the NCBBF unfortunately do not fully know the ingredients and composition of that colourful, well dressed and tasty looking and aromatic pie. The aromatic pie could later turn out to be a very bitter-sweet pie with its after effect creating widespread insomnia and animosity across the nation.
It is therefore very important that everyone within the voting age in Fiji must fully understand the Charter and its implications. The advantages and disadvantages of the Charter must be made known to them. I would also urge the SDL and NFP that rather than going for a “tit for tat” in the media with the IG and Charter Team, to also educate their supporters about the pros and cons of the Charter so that every voting individual could make an informed decision on whether or not to support the Charter.
The Chief Baker or Chief Architect has also convinced the boys in green at Delainabua in his explanation that the Charter is an exit strategy to save their neck from prosecution [including mine because I had also served in the IG]. I cannot comprehend why the Charter has to be used as an exit strategy when the 1997 Constitution is fully intact and has not been abrogated. How can we legalise an illegal activity through the Charter when the 1997 Constitution still exists? How can we rely on His Excellency’s immunity decree when the 1997 Constitution has not been abrogated? I can envisage what is going to come next! There is something definitely baking in the Master Baker’s oven to facilitate the Charter being used as an exit strategy while the 1997 Constitution is still intact. This brings to mind the constitutional changes warranted in the Charter and its three member team. What would happen after the constitutional changes is interesting and is anyone’s guess.
How and where will the GCC feature in the Charter? What role would the GCC play in the granting of immunity and pardon to the military and members of the Interim Government? The role of the GCC and Chiefs should never be downplayed in national forgiveness, national reconciliation and healing because it is part and parcel of the Fijian culture and Chiefly etiquette, protocol [i-vakaturaga] and realm.
What are the roles of Chiefs during times of national uprising, crisis and coups? Should the GCC be answerable and subservient to the State or should it maintain its independence and autonomy? Will the Charter continue to uphold the role of the GCC in appointing the Vice President and the President? Should the GCC be an institution for Fijians only or for all communities? How will the Charter clearly demarcate the role of the GCC when it comes to sensitive indigenous Fijian issues over national issues? What is the future relationship of the military as an institution to the GCC as an institution Fijian?
As we progress through the Charter process and the constitutional, political and social re-engineering and reconfiguration that are envisaged to take place in the formulation of the Charter, there of course will be lot of lobbying and negotiation between the major players in attempting to pick a few cherries from the pie.
The former Prime Minister, Major General Rabuka, has proposed the way forward through power sharing not at the Government level but at Executive Authority level. Sounds very interesting and daunting. Some will be plotting their next move in this game of chess and the master anticipator and negotiator is the one that will last. The leftist and rightist will attempt to find common ground and come to a win-win situation. There will be tradeoffs here and there but there seldom is a win-win situation in a game of chess.
In attempting to break the deadlock and the stalemate in the game of chess, often there is a marriage of convenience. It is always a worrying experience when there is a marriage of convenience because one could always end up going to bed with ones worst enemy and it does not end up in a win-win situation but only the influential partner comes out the winner in the end.
Remember the marriage of convenience between the Mr Jai Ram Reddy and Major General Sitiveni Rabuka, the Architects of the 1997 Constitution and their party the SVT and the NFP where compromises were made here and there to produce a final Constitution that would be acceptable to everyone. Instead, eight (8) of the 14 Provincial Councils did not endorse the 1997 Constitution and consequently the SVT and the NFP performed very badly during the 1999 General Elections.
The likely scenario is once again looming in the background as leaders would want to get the best deal and sometimes compromising national interest over personal and party interests. It will be interesting to note who will sell us short and will be the Judas Iscariot. One Jona Saukuru of Nadi has already labeled me a Judas Iscariot who sold his personal interest above national interest for 30 pieces of silver! It will be very interesting to see who will be the real Judas Iscariot at the end of this all.
There are definitely some positive aspects of the Charter which should be supported and some negative aspect which we must critically assess. Nonetheless, the credibility test for the “Architects of the Charter” lies in tabling and passing the Charter through an elected Government and parliamentary process. Or better still if the so called “Architects of the Charter” are really confident that the Charter is the way forward for Fiji, then the new electoral boundaries should be defined quickly based on the 2007 population census figures and use the Charter concept paper and the Charter Consultation document as their 2009 election Manifesto and contest the election using the 1997 Constitution.
The above is the biggest credibility test of the Architects of the Charter and the Charter itself. The nation has paid dearly for a political animal’s personal and political agenda. The consequences will be far more disastrous than the impact of the 1987 and 2000 coups put together. Therefore, let the people quickly and freely choose what is best and the way forward for them. Charter or no Charter.
* Ratu Jone Navakamocea was a former minister in the interim government. He was the deputy secretary at the Ministry of Finance before he stood in the 2006 general election where he won his seat under the Soqosoqo Duavata Ni Lewenivanua Party. Views expressed in this article are his and not of the Fiji Sun)

 
  One correction
  Last updated 4/26/2008 9:58:05 AM
 

Thank you for publishing my views in your opinion column (FS 22/4).
However there was one important omission from the article which was my reference to John Samy, the Head of the Technical and Support Secretariat (TASS). The paragraph is highlighted and reproduced below for the interest of members of the public.
“Recently, the IG has endorsed that former Fiji nationals living overseas be given PR Status to entice them to come to Fiji and invest. This is good because it means brain gain for the Fijian economy and will definitely favour Fiji nationals of Indian descent from overseas. There could also be some pressure on the IG and the NCBBF to change the Electoral Act and the 1997 Constitution to enable PR holders to also vote in future elections. Note that Mr. John Samy had gone to New Zealand recently and promoted the Charter to Fiji Nationals in New Zealand. Are we anticipating that these former Fiji nationals who now live and hold PR Status in New Zealand and other countries to also participate in the national referendum and future elections when they have acquired the necessary PR requirements and necessary legislative changes have been made?”
In my next article, I will shed some light on the other side of John Samy and his denigrating and disrespectful comments about Fiji’s first Prime Minister and late President of the Republic of Fiji, Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara when I encountered John at his retirement farewell party hosted by Pacific Island staff at the ADB, Manila, Philippines in October, 2006.
The irony of it all was that John was the former Director of Economic Planning and in 1983 to 1987, he was Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Economic Development and Planning. He was personally responsible for the formulation of the DP8 and DP9. Given his positions and responsibilities, John was one of Ratu Sir Kamisese’s (Prime Minister at that time) most senior advisors in Government.
Secondly, I will shed some light on the new wave of Indian imperialism that is transcending our shores and our very doorstep, its arm GOPIO and their links to Fiji through local and overseas Fiji Indian academics and professionals and the Fiji Labour Party and their launching platform through the academic and religious institutions.
This new wave of imperialism which has been silently supported by the Government of India could be considered a national security issue and pose a threat to indigenous leadership in Fiji and other Pacific Island States.
This could also be considered the violation of indigenous rights to self determination.
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Could this be the reason for the frequent trips to India by FB and MC?

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35 Responses to “Pros and Cos of the Charter – J. Navakamocea”

  1. Mark Manning Says:

    Time for someone with balls to take out the IG leaders . That will stop any thoughts of another coup .

  2. bodyguard Says:

    this has been my suspicion for a while….this whole fiasco could be a smoke creen after all to a more dangerous trend.

  3. FijiGirl Says:

    The iig harps on about land use, and the need to develop land.

    Where does it say that ‘using’ our land for native rainforest, or pristine ecosystems, is invalid?

    On a global scale, our pristine ecosystems are a world treasure, on land and at sea.

    Just because Chodo-Prasad wants our entire land mass converted to sugar cane farms, unsustainably logged forests and over-fished waters, does not make him right and us wrong.

    Furthermore, the repeated calls for ‘equality’ under the bogus Charter echoes with Orwellian foreboding – everyone will be equal (under the Charter), but some will be more equal than others.

    I’m not saying that equality was perfect under the legitimate government, but what our legitimate government sought to correct with affirmative action was the gross imbalance which so disadvantaged our indigenous community.

    Fijians swelled the ranks for the disadvantaged – prisons, school dropouts, rural deprivation, urban drift, squatter settlements, poverty, to name but a few.

    The indoFijian community, on the other hand, controlled more than half the economic wealth.

    SDL’s policies aimed to turn this imbalance around, not to make the indoFijans ‘lost out’ (zero-sum game) but to bring the Fijians up to compete fairly with the indoFijians (win-win). In short, they aimed to create ‘a tide to float all boats’.

    Why did the indoFijians see this as a threat? Mainly because Chodo-Prasad, irritating little sh*t that he is, constantly ignored the truth and insisted it was detrimental to our indoFijian community. It served his personal agenda to do so because his real aim was to regain the leadership and we now all see how far he will go to get it.

    As long as divisive politics rule in Fiji, the two communities will struggle to trust each other. And Chodo is the most divisive politician our shores have ever seen.

    The bible says ‘no man can serve two Masters’. How can Chodo ever be a true servant of Fiji if he is eternally serving his mother India?

    God bless Fiji

  4. kaiveicoco Says:

    i now have doubts about this charter.I just hope as Navakamocea puts it,the charter is like a well baked pie with its aromatic smell,toppings etc.I hope Nawalowalo would be the first person to eat the pie and may the pie give him some unforgetable bouts of diarrhoea and constipation and some intermittent bouts of food poisoning !!

  5. Frida Says:

    What sometimes bothers me is when this illegal administration syas that there is no charter whet at the same time, the real work of the NCBBF is to finalise the charter. Why can’t they show us the charter even if it is in draft form? Even UN meetings will allow draft docuemnts to be circulated – what is with idiots? They must think that all in Fiji are like them.

  6. Linus Says:

    @Fijigirl.. Excellant appraisal.

  7. Peace Pipe Says:

    An excellent analysis and sinister insights of the farter charter by J Navakamocea. Being the “inside” man Navakamocea has some knowlegde of what is going on within the walls of the ig. I had the same view of the charter in terms of “merit based equality” as having a dire consequence on the Fijians. There is no denying that those with the most qualifications are the Indos so naturally with this new rule comes further financial imbalance of the Fijians and Indian with Indians streaking further ahead economically. This is what the SDL was trying to set right but unfortunately the pig could not see this. So for Fijians to support their own demise thru this charter is downright silly.

  8. Save the Sheep Says:

    Totally Agree with Fiji Girl

    The way the world is going, the Pacific IF kept in its current relatively pristine condition will become the world’s play ground and people will pay BIG money to come and enjoy what is left of nature.

    There is nothing wrong with keeping it the way it is.

  9. Dauvavana Says:

    Please people read closely what Navakamocea is arguing about. While I was one of those pissed off about him jining the IG, I can now see some benefits as he has inside information.

    I beg Mr Navakamocea, if you can also translate this article into the Taukei vernacular and have it printed on this blog so bloggers can print and distribute widely to our kawa i Taukei.

    The truth must be spelt out about what these coniving bastards are scheming up.

    Sa gauna ni yavala oqo. Sa sega na gauna ni moce. Meda yavala ka vala e na vukudra na luveda nimataka. Ke sega e da na qeavu na kawa i taukei.

    Tekivu taumada me vakadewa taki vakaviti nai tukutuku qo ka veisoliyaki vei ira na noda e na veikoro.

  10. Caginitokalau Says:

    It seems that no amount of reasoning will deter these iIG from implementing what Chaudhary & Co had set out to do.It has all been GOPIO conspiracy from the beginning.No amount of explanation from locals will impact on their resolve.This agenda has been set for sometime even before Chaudhary won the elections in 1999. The accusation of “racism” on anything in the way of their version of multiracialism is the defence used by minorities in the western coiuntries including those in Europe to counter the influence of the white majorities in these countries..these include Canada, AUst. NZ. UK, US etc.It has been succesfully used by the zionist movements especially the masonic B’nai Brith of the Anti Defamation League (ADL) and adopterd by civil rights movements which they have influenced to pass laws of equality, unity, human rights, equal rights etc which has made the majority populations in these countries become monrities in their lands. They have succesfully influenced the passing of various equality laws in these countries that have banned christianity in schools, and government and christian holidays like christmas etc…allowed homosexual marriages and activities, and suppress christian religious expressions and ethics and so forth.
    In Canada, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, passed in 1982 has enabled the jewish group..” to overturn the Lord’s Day Act (which required stores to close every Sunday for the previous 75 years), mandated school prayer, and mandated Christian “religious education” in Canada. At the same time, they supported the building of a succa (Jewish religious symbol) at Toronto’s city hall and a menorah on the grounds of the Manitoba Legislative Assembly. The Canadian Jewish Congress even went to court to force the Canadian government to financially assist Jewish religious education. They said failure to subsidize Jewish education would deny freedom of religion and equality, as specified in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, passed in 1982.”

    Tghe Canadian ANti hate law has been passed based on that “Charter” designed primarily to silence free debate about Jews…”. Christianity has been gagged in Canada, where the Bible qualifies as “hate literature” because of its condemnation of sin.
    Now the implications for us in Fiji especially Fijians are enormous..we will be blown to smithereens by this call for equality, mulitracialism, etc….The Canadian charter was then adopted as part of the ammendment to their costitution which I beleieve will be the same way to be odopted by the Chaudhary charter. The adoption of this charter will open a pandora box related laws that will be passed later that will undo all the things that our people stand for all these time. The charter will be that window for the passing of all the laws that will work against us and all our children.
    I do not personmally subscribe to Navakamocea’s views that some parts of the charter are good. The charter will come as a whole not in parts. Everything the charter represent must be condemned and condemend strongly. It must not be allowed to pass into any law whatsoever. Besides we have not really fully understood the beliefs,intentions and philosophy of the people behind it. It is a dangerous document and must never ever be allowed on our soil. it has no good intentions. It should be over our dead bodies kind of document…it must not come about ever.

  11. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Na tamata sa lomaloma rua, sa yamekemeke na nona i valavala kece ga!

    Talk is real cheap Mr.Jone Navakamocea, as much as I appreciate the time and the effort you took to get your message across I’m afraid it is not much different from what we’ve been saying all along.

    Rhubarb pie is one of my favourites, very bitter and all you do is eat it with vanilla bean ice cream and you’re in pie heaven. Lets just give you the benefit of a doubt at this point and hope that you are genuine and not a specifically designated fruit collector for the chief baker.

    The bottom line is, the charter is designed in such a way that one can liken it to a cultural A-bomb whose ultimate mission is the extermination of an ethnic minority race off the face of this planet. This would be an international crime.

    Do I sound racist yet? I BLOODY WELL HOPE I DO!

  12. anon Says:

    @ FijiGirl. Right on!!!
    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with participating in a global economy as long as it done in an equitable and sustainable way and doesn’t rip the heart out of the indigenous.
    I’ve thought about this over many years especially in light of the so called ‘decline of the nation-state’.
    It irks me when we see the Shaista and cohorts pratlle on about the colonial big brother attitude of Australia and NZ on the one hand whilst encouraging the imperialism of others – what is this based on?

    That trend is dangerous. Any vestiges of Australia and NZ’s colonial attitude that did exist are of course in decline WHEREAS the opposite is true of China/India and others this junta is courting (read selling out to for the sake of travel, trinkets and a desire to consider themselves elite).

    The region is missing a huge opportunity. As a region (i.e. a Pacific that includes the diversity that already exists but with similar heritage and experiences) could be one of the world’s regions that is almost self-sustaining. Its in the process of being sold for short to medium term gain.

    The populations that exist all have a place but NONE of us will if the likes of this bunch of opportunists persist in crapping on the indigenous simply because they have been displaced or suffered from past indignity themselves. They’d be better off (as is happening elsewhere) in respecting indigenous rights and looking at more cooperative means supporting each other rather than courting another round of imperialism that is simply going to make matters even more awkward to resolve.

    I’m old enough to remember when (in NZ) Maori, and each of the “imported” P.I. identities used to scrap amongst each other – sometimes violently. Now they’re all considered a huge asset as they should be. Those “imported” came out of expediency (to satisfy labour shortages, etc) and for a long time suffered as did Maori. Decades later, many STILL suffer but all recognise the solution is not through crapping on each other.
    Same thing happened in Australia. Finally the First Australians are beginning to get at least some recognition and respect. That is the trend. Not so under this illegal junta.

    If Frank, Shaista and hangers-on think they can resolve everything by decree, they’re sadly, sadly mistaken. They’ve actually got to respect an evolutionary process that doesn’t shit on the indigenous – who in all cases have been the most patient and accomodating – far more patient and accomodating than any of the late comers. And my pick is that the new comers they are courting will be even less accomodating – its the way of the “brave new world” and it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with race.
    They’re actually incredibly trecherous and traitorous people (i.e. the so called self appointed leaders) and I’m not sure based on their record so far why they think they have, or should have any credibility given them.

  13. Tim Says:

    And, further to the above, why is it that the indigenous should have to have, or be expected to somewhow “prove” themselves? That is what is irritating and insulting! That is the attitude of this pathetic self-appointed elite. Shaista and Yippe I Aye should take a look at themselves, and that is NOT because of their race or identity, before they start making judgemental and holier than thou pronouncements.

  14. Tim Says:

    Still more, the trechery and paranoia of this pathetic bunch still sees no bounds – there goes another expulsion (Fiji Times). I thought they wanted open discussion – or is that just discussion on their terms?

  15. Jose Says:

    Aubatinuk-N says

    “The bottom line is, the charter is designed in such a way that one can liken it to a cultural A-bomb whose ultimate mission is the extermination of an ethnic minority race off the face of this planet”.

    Funny that you should say that because the human rights is Catholosism and designed to wipe out Protestantism out of the face of the earth.

  16. Jose Says:

    All bloggers. Take careful note on CAGINITOKALAU”S post. This is what this ig is about. This is the bigger picture and it came even from above and beyond this ig. The system has been around a long long time.There are bigger powers at work here. This sold out ig are only following orders from their masters who sit back and look noble while the silly little men voreqe and his ig do the dirty work and look stupid. Do they even know that they are being used? They are just cattle. A derogatory term used by those high up in the masonic hierarchy to describe those in the lower ranking that they “use” to achieve a means to an end.

  17. Jose Says:

    The pope is going globe trotting. Has been to America and will soon be in Sydney, Australia for youth week. There’s always an agenda apart from this frontal facade. Meetings behind closed doors.

    Agendas:

    1.) One World Order

    2.) Union between church and state

    3.) One World Religion

    4.) Legislate Sunday Worship

    The pope’s theme “Unity, Unity”. Voreqe the parrot is parroting “unity unity, quick, urgently, support the farter charter or else”.

    And the whole world wander after the beast. The scarlet woman who rides the dragon. All the leaders of the world have fornicated with her. The abomination of desolation.

  18. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Those who agree with the charter are agreeing to genocide!!

  19. natewaprince Says:

    Jone Navakamocea will get no sympathy from me.The SDL traitor who thought he had it made by joining the pigs is now realising that the FLP is behind everything we are going through now.

    Sa bera kemuni,qo o sa na kila na ca ni liumuri.Kevaka o nanuma me o duri ena veidigidigi vata kei iratou na SDL,vosota sara,qai la’i rawa sara i nakoro.

  20. kill chodo Says:

    pliz some millionaire or anyone with lots of money reading this
    supply us weapons so that we former soldiers can wipe this chodo
    off the face of the planet

  21. kill chodo Says:

    there is no hope for us now genocide of indians is the only solution

  22. shogun Says:

    @ Kill Chodo – BOCI WAVIVI!

    LESU TALE I NAKEBA TAMATA GOGO!

    KUA NI MAI VATUBU CA EKE LAMULAMU!

    DOWN WITH THE RFMF!

    DOWN WITH THE DICTATORSHIP!

    DOWN WITH THE ILLEGAL INTERIM GOVERNMENT!

  23. LUVfiji Says:

    I share the same views expressed by Natewaprince. My question to Navakamocea is “Why now?”

    Where was he when we needed his support to stand up against this regime? I know Navakamocea; having worked with him previously. But I would not, for the life of me, trust him ever again. He is a no-no for me! No matter what he says now.

    Moce Jone!

  24. aubatinuku-N Says:

    @ IB & NP, now is the time to start circulating those flyers.

    FREEDOM MARCH – PEACEFUL PROTEST!!
    To be simultaneously held all over Fiji, Suva being the stronghold.
    ALL WHO DO NOT WANT
    G E N O C I D E
    Meet at such and such a place, bring your families
    DO NOT ATTEND WORK

    The whole country should come to a grinding HALT!!
    Bring OWN PLACARDS and we will also provide!
    ALSO PREPARE TO SIGN PETITION.

    WE MARCH & PEACEFUL PROTEST NOW FOR ALL OUR BETTER TOMORROWS!!

    Can any one out there HELP compact THE MOST effective flyer for distribution first and foremost to the “RENEGADE” provinces and throught our trusted grapevines.

    LETS MAKE A STAND N O W!!

    We need to let our chiefs know that the pain is too much, we need to stop the permeating stench of GENOCIDE NOW!!

  25. kill chodo Says:

    @ shogun
    cailaki, sau bau kai yani mera vuti na kai dia,
    support taki ira tale mai,
    sona levu

  26. crocodile Says:

    Navakamocea, you joint the iIG when it was involved in disnmantling Fijian Institutions, etc. You joined forces with the iIG to enable the coup government to establish itself in the beginning. You assistaed Chodo, Bainimarama, Aiarse, Shamem in establishing themselves and their government. You joined them with a clear conscience and intention to gain from it (pay your mortgage.etc) at the expense of the Fijian people. You are a selfish person and is not fit for national leadership as your true colors have shown. You will have to pay for this boy. You will pay for this…

  27. HangedDragged&Quartered Says:

    @ Navakamocea

    The thirty pieces of silver run out ??????

    Take your analysis and shove it up your ass!!!

    Caititamamu

  28. Kaiviti Says:

    Crocodile and HDQ point taken. your views are narrow minded and show what level of education you have reached. in order to overthrow the IG we need CLEAR HEADED THINKERS AND STRATEGISTS not a bunch of over emotional crazed lunatics.

    JN did what he had to do, what ever his motive, thats between him and his conscience. Your opinions can be likened to your armpits, you have them but right now they right about STINK to high heaven. You both need very strong DEODERANTS because you’re STINKING UP the atmosphere….

    JN has now realised that it doesnt pay to sleep with the enemy. He has come to his senses and he has valuable inside information that we could use to our advantage. Please refrain from divulging your derogatory remarks. I’m sure if you met him face to face, you wouldnt have the guts to do anything, let alone say anything….

    Let the man be, he is now on the outside now and on our side…..so shut your faces and lets get on with the job, no sidetracking please…..who knows, you both could moles of the IG on this blog, you bunch of illegal no hopers….GET A LIFE WILL YA!

  29. FijiGirl Says:

    @ aubatinuku – N. The most effective method we have of quickly disseminating such information is through the Church.

    Doesn’t that bring you a sense of peace, hope, serenity and purpose?

    Methodist, Anglican, Gospel, SDA, …

    Our pastors and church elders can help spread the word of when and where to meet, and keep the ‘hotheads’ on an even keel.

    Remember our protest hymns – The Lord’s Prayer and Na Vanua Lagilagi. Sing them with one open hand raised in the air, symbolising our collective defiance of the illegal regime, and our hearts open to God and each other.

    Do not be distracted or misled by the IR into violence. Have no fear – God is with us.

    Tabu soro

    God bless Fiji

  30. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Na yaca na ga na yaca qoka “NAVAKAMOCEA”.
    Synonymous to “turn coats”.

  31. Croc Says:

    Kaiviti:
    Kaiviti:
    & how do we know that he is notsent on a mission ..an iIG/military mole (he was an army officer before). He was a former assistant mi ister in SDl and when they booted out, he joined ranks wityh the very people (military)who booted them out. Why wouldn’t an “uneducated”(your term) mind be not skeptical about him..changing colors so suddenly and quickly..he is merely regurgitating what we alredy know ..about MC, GOPIO conspiracy..etc…there’s no new info here..only he is playing on what we already know so he can be believed…may be you cant see this because you have educated mind but lacks the wisdom to see common sense things.. we aren’t even you sure if you are not an military mole like him??

  32. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Oops sorry – typo error, let me do this again folks.

    Na yaca CA ga na yaca qoka “NAVAKAMOCEA”
    Synonymous to “turn coats” and instability to say the least.

  33. IslandBoy Says:

    @LUVfiji – tamata no trust o Navakamocea. We worked at Forum together, vakamadua na no job moku siga. Paper for PIFs was due and he was so lamu he step overseas and didn’t write the paper.

    One point we should all remember is that he is the Tui Namosi’s momo. He and Tui Namosi’s mother Adi Vani, are real brother and sister, they say in the Fiji. So his his chiefly nephews are showimg him up.

    The two brothers Ratu Suli and Ratu Manu, are real stand up guys and he is just faffing around. Sa rui sivia na lai vosa vaka vuku ena QVS club.

  34. iceman Says:

    John, you should have known better…its too late now. The damage has already done.

  35. LUVfiji Says:

    @IB – Thanks. You’re very well informed re JN’s connections. What was he doing at the Forum? Io, na tamata mokusiga dina. Oh you mean he COULDNT write the paper! haha Im hardly surprised.

    Na nona radini valenikuro na marama ni Somosomo, na wekai Ep Ganilua. Sa qai veilecayaki tu gona ‘qo. Maumau though, he is well educated but doesnt seem to have the right focus – lacks direction.

    Hard luck JN; u wont find support from this site!

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