A Charter to end all coups?

THE article by Lorine Tevi, Desmond Whiteside and Ratu Jolame Lewanavanua of the National Council for Building a Better Fiji (NCBBF) is very revealing.

It reinforces the doubt many citizens have about the work and integrity of the NCBBF and intent of the People’s Charter.

The tone of their comments is dictatorial, boastful and personal. As members of NCBBF they should take an independent approach but they are pushing a line of propaganda from Mahendra Chaudhry and the Fiji Labour Party.

Ms Tevi, Mr Whiteside and Ratu Jolame demonstrated that they are infected by the coup virus. They stand condemned by their apparent endorsement of the removal by force of the government led by the SDL-FLP multi-party Cabinet.

The authors suggested that the charter will ensure there is no repeat of December 2006. In other words, the charter will mean an end to coups.

It is difficult to understand the logic of this argument. After all, the charter will merely be a document full of words, without any representative popular support.

It will never guarantee there will be no coup in future.

Questions have been asked about whether there will be another coup if the military and NCBBF do not get their way with the charter.

The illegal overthrow of an elected government amounts to treason. That is, perhaps, the most serious crime. The cycle of coups can only be eradicated if the hearts and minds of those inclined to carry it out undergo radical change.

They must permanently turn against treason as a means of imposing their will and commit themselves to following the law.

This is the only sure way to eliminate the coup culture.

The NCBBF members asked the question what is the SDL’s alternative beyond the election?

The answer is simple if the SDL party wins the majority of seats in the House of Representatives it will form a multi-party government in accordance to the provisions of the Constitution.

A fresh five-year Strategic Development Plan (SDP) will be prepared to guide the development efforts of the Government.

Since the 2007-2011 SDP remains very much relevant this document will be used as the base for the policies of the new government. It will be complemented by the SDL election manifesto and those of other parties in the Government.

If the charter contains principles with which the SDL agrees and approved by the people, there is no reason why these might not form part of the government’s agenda. This is a political issue to be dealt with through political procedures but the charter cannot be forced on Parliament.

Ms Tevi and her associates think that calling the SDP a People’s Charter is a joke. There is no joke. I refer to the SDP as a plan rather than a charter.

The authors boast that the consultative process adopted by the NCBBF was more comprehensive and superior to that used for the SDP. They are wrong.

While the procedures for the preparation of the charter and SDP have some similarities, there are crucial differences. In the case of the charter, the NCBBF is helped by nine working groups consisting of 200 participants representing various interests. In comparison, the SDP preparation involved 11 working groups comprising a wide representation from the community, public and private sectors, civil society and non-government organisations. A national economic summit (NES) was the equivalent of the NCBBF.

A significant difference in the consultation process is that the SDP was not taken to the village and rural level. However, the people were represented by their elected members in the House of Reps who had a mandate to speak for them.

Unfortunately, the People’s Charter consultation with village/rural people is questionable and open to manipulation.

Typically, government officials hold meetings with the people for one or two hours; the charter is explained to them and then a “question and answer” session is allowed before the officials leave.

There is no time for the audience to absorb the charter information, let alone make contributions. I suspect the officials would require expression of support from the people before they leave.

The Vitogo meeting shown on Fiji One was a disturbing example of what is happening. The soldiers presenting material to the villagers made it clear that for the next election there will be no need for party manifesto. It is the opposite of democracy and an attempt to curtail freedom of thought, speech, expression and choice.

Ms Tevi, Mr Whiteside and Ratu Jolame should declare whether they, too support this authoritarian and dictatorial approach. The most important differences between the People’s Charter and SDP processes are: The SDL’s national economic summit consisted of elected members of Parliament, chief executives of the public and private sectors, representatives of political parties, NGOs and civil society, reps of Fijian institutions and many other interest groups, irrespective of political affiliation.

The NCBBF and its working groups contain a sizeable contingent of Labour party members, ministers of the interim Government and representatives of a few industry groups, NGOs and civil society organisations, including coup sympathisers and supporters. So it is not independent.

Some large NGOs, political parties, trade union organisations, religious groups and other key stakeholders in society are not represented since they do not support the charter.

In addition, NCBBF meetings are held in secret, whereas the NES was open to the media. Ms Tevi, Mr Whiteside and Ratu Jolame, as supposed champions of transparency and accountability, should tell the public when the door will be opened to NCBBF meetings.

I did not paint a rosy picture of the SDL term in office (2000-2006). I merely gave a factual account that reflected the performance of the government I led.

Before the 2006 coup, the economy was making good progress. Economic growth for the previous five years recorded an average 2.8 per cent GDP, the highest average for any five-year period over the past 15 years. Inflation averaged 3.5 per cent, foreign reserves averaged about three to four of imports, interest rates were low, investment rose from 10 per cent in 2000 to about 18 per cent of GDP in 2006, employment increased substantially and wages were increasing.

We had additional work to do to ensure a more even distribution of income to address a 4 per cent increase to 33 per cent in the number of people living below the poverty line. The policies in the SDP were geared to achieve this. Our major industries performed well. Tourism and the construction and building industries were booming, the 2006 sugar season achieved an output of 320,000 tonnes of sugar, mining, agriculture, fisheries and forestry performed to expectations.

Both investor and consumer confidence was high. Government finances were sound. The police force was well led and violent crime was on the decline.

These are facts that cannot be disputed. Ms Tevi, Mr Whiteside and Ratu Jolame can verify them. They will also find that the Asian Development Bank described growth under the SDL as solid and noted the strong performance by the private sector. It listed our external debt outstanding as the lowest among 12 Pacific Island states. The International Monetary Fund, part of the World Bank, also commented favourably on Fiji’s economic progress from 2000.

Ms Tevi and her colleagues concentrate on the issue of public debt. Before the coup in 2006 it stood at 52 per cent of GDP, which is at the highest end of the medium range. In 2001 when the SDL came to power it announced that Government would take an expansionary approach in public expenditure in order to revive and stimulate the economy after the events of 2000.

This policy obviously paid off. The proof is in the results that were achieved. An important issue is management of the debt level. In presenting the 2007 Budget, Finance Minister Ratu Jone Kubuabola said the Government would bring it down to 45 per cent of GDP by 2011. I believe the issue is being highlighted because of the inability of the interim Finance Minister to manage the economy and government finances.

Compare our accomplishments with the disastrous performance of the interim regime after 16 months in office economic growth in 2007 registered a negative -3.9 per cent of GDP. In contrast with an initial forecast growth of 2 per cent of GDP for that year, the actual negative growth of -39 per cent of GDP represents an overall contraction of the economy of 5.9 per cent of GDP in 2007.

A forecast growth rate of 2.2 per cent of GDP in 2008 is unlikely to be achieved. Inflation registered more than 4 per cent in 2007 and by early 2008 was running at well over 7 per cent, the highest during the past 10 years. Prices of basic food items have soared to record levels. Our major industries have performed poorly. Sugar output for the 2007 season was only 24,000 tonnes, the lowest in the past 20 years, tourism continues to suffer and struggle, the construction and building industry is in decline, mining, forestry, fisheries and agriculture are performing poorly.

Investment has virtually dried up and both investor and consumer confidence is extremely low. Lost jobs due to the coup have not been recovered, unemployment has increased substantially, more and more people live below the poverty line and in squatter settlements. In fact, when Mr Chaudhry delivered the 2008 Budget he mentioned that about 50 per cent of our population now live below the poverty line. He was admitting that during the 16 months of the interim Government’s rule, poverty rose by 17 per cent from 33 per cent in 2006 to 50 per cent in 2008. Allegations of corruption, nepotism, cronyism, abuse of office and law-breaking against the interim regime is rife. It has made bad governance one of its specialities. There is still abuse of human rights and liberty and threats to constitutional freedom. Violent crimes continue to increase.

Ms Tevi and her co-authors questioned the inclusion of elements of the FLP manifesto in the SDP for 2007-2011. When the SDL/FLP multi-party Cabinet was established, an officials committee in the PM’s office was appointed to prepare a comparative analysis of the SDL and FLP manifestoes.

The analysis revealed only a few issues on which the two parties had differences. So the SDP contained measures consistent with both manifestoes. It was approved by the multi-party Cabinet and later tabled in Parliament. Ms Tevi’s team has expressed doubt that “national unity and identity, constitutional changes, social cultural reforms and good governance” are in the SDP. All I can say is that they should read the SDP carefully.

My claim that the charter is being rejected is based on the widespread negative reaction from citizens and organisations. The charter has become a source of division, rather than unity. The solution to Fiji’s crisis lies in dialogue between Commodore Bainimarama and the country’s main political parties.

In the SDL’s case, it won the 2006 election with about 80 per cent of the Fijian vote. Our party can therefore speak with authority derived from the people on issues affecting the country at this time of uncertainty and national disarray.

A first step in this dialogue was to have been held last month through the good office of Sir Paul Reeves of New Zealand. Sir Paul, a Commonwealth emissary, was here at the invitation of Commodore Bainimarama.

Unfortunately, a scheduled meeting I was to attend was cancelled at the last minute. However, I understand that Sir Paul is to return soon. Our party still stands ready to engage constructively in the discussions he is hoping to organise.

The SDL’s agenda is quite clear we will act in the best interests of Fiji with the immediate purpose of advancing the country to election early in 2009 or sooner.

We are willing to pursue with open minds the national reconciliation necessary to repair the damage done to Fiji by the coup.

Laisenia Qarase (as taken from the FijiTimes Feature Column)

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71 Responses to “A Charter to end all coups?”

  1. FijiGirl Says:

    Bravo LQ. This articulate argument clearly outlines the fundamental wrongs with the iig’s ‘charter process’ – it is undemocratic, dictatorial propaganda and does not actually achieve its intended aims.

    I would go much further than LQ and say that an effective way to guarantee no more coups is to proclaim that all coup leaders face a mandatory death penalty, no exceptions. Sure, you can hold your coup if you want, but you have to be prepared to die for it. Rabuka was prepared to die, but was spared (some say he should not have been spared). Speight and Bainimarama / Chodo would all fail that test miserably.

    Our nation was far better off under LQ’s SDL coalition than it is under the Junta. This is indisputable.

    Bring on fresh, free and fair elections.

    God bless Fiji

  2. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    People Should Not Fear Their Government, Their Government Should Fear The People.

  3. Budhau Says:

    Hey FijiGirl – that mandatory death sentence sounded good – until you came up with the “Rabuka was prepared to die, but was spared” line.

    Rabuka was not spared by anyone – he had a deal and legally they could not prosecute him. Speight had a similar deal, however, he screwed up when he did not abide the terms and conditions of the deal by not surrendering the arms. Thus they nailed Speight’s arse.
    As for Bainimarama, Chaudary and the rest – they will come up with a similar deal – and FB and MC and company and their lawyers are probably smarter then that poor Speight bugger.

    Anyone who pulls a coup is putting his life on the line – if the coup fails, you are in for life, or if there is death penalty, you hang for it.

    So your “Rabuka ready to die” argument – does not hold water. All that shows is that you are still a Rabuka fan. BTW – if your argument was correct, that they spared him – how do you explain the GCC post and making him a honorary chief. The guy is a hero.

    Your Rabuka statement shows what I have been saying all along – that you guys support the coup culture – it is just that this coup was pulled by guys from the other side.

    Our nation would have been far better if your hero Rabuka would have left the Dr. Bavadra government alone – why don’t you get this through your thick head.

    ..as for your “free, fresh and fair elections”… yeah right – but what if the “evil one” is elected back into power – will we accept him as the PM. Hell no – and I am sure, it would be idiots like you who would be calling for the next coup against the “evil one” – we can have an Indo as the Pm, can we?

  4. Obstra Says:

    Budhau: Our nation would be better off if Bavadra did not allow himself to be used as a front by Indian leaders. We would be better off if Inidans went back to India and stop pretending to be Fijians. This coup has given us more resolve to make sure that this country will only have a Fijian character and no one else. mark my word.

  5. Tim Says:

    @ Budhau above: you post simply shows you are coming from another intrenched extreme.
    Where do you draw from FijiGirl’s post that she is Rabuka dan, that she supports coups when it suits? and so on. You are really making assumptions on the simply on the basis that she holds a different perspective from yours. I’m not sure you can even draw the conclusion she was, or would have been unhappy with Bavandra.
    I’m sure you’re also aware that any ‘deals’ made, or amnesties made under duress are not necessarily open ended or will last forever. It simply depends on the will of those in “power”.

  6. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    Contrast the the nonsense from bananasinpyjamas with intelligent statements of the real PM, LQ, and you have the very reason why Fiji is going downhill so fast.

    It is such a shame that Fiji should have to suffer because of one man’s desire to hide from his murderous crimes and another man’s attempts to hide his theft of money.

  7. Budhau Says:

    Tim,
    Her remark that Rabuka, he hero, was willing to die for cause – unlie chod and FB.

    No I am not making any assumptions -No one has yet said that if we had a free and fair election, and Chaudary won – that we will accept Caudary as out next PM.

    Hey Tim – your remark, “I’m sure you’re also aware that any ‘deals’ made, or amnesties made under duress are not necessarily open ended or will last forever. It simply depends on the will of those in “power”.

    So can you explain why we haven’t nailed Rabuka yet – what happened to the will of those in “power” when comes to Rabuka.
    Oh, I get it – so we will nail FB and Chodo – regardless of any amnesty – however we are all happy to let Rabuka slide and if Qarase had his way, Speight would have been a free man also.

    You see Tim – that is exactly my point – this ain’t about democracy, free and fair elections – its just that this coup was pulled by the wrong side.

  8. freefijian Says:

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  9. Glawyer Says:

    Now we have the military trying to attack LQ and telling him to support the charter which will stop the coup culture or face the consequences. Sounds like a threat to coup him when he wins the next election in March. Don’t these idiots in the military understand that their imbecilic coups are costing the people of this country? Can you fools really be considering coups after all this crap you’ve put us through? Please try and use some of that grey matter in those thick skulls of yours before putting out these kind of rubbish press releases!

  10. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    Well said, FijiGirl!

    The only good thing that has come out of all this is this:

    we now realize how good Qarase was –

    and another is this –

    Speight looks like an angel.

  11. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    Obstra Says: “Our nation would be better off if Bavadra did not allow himself to be used as a front by Indian leaders. We would be better off if Inidans went back to India and stop pretending to be Fijians. This coup has given us more resolve to make sure that this country will only have a Fijian character and no one else. mark my word.”

    Spot on Obstra!

    There is more hatred and distrust between the races –

    We must have a FIJIAN GOVERNMENT –

    and

    the MILITARY MUST BE ABOLISHED.

  12. Sky Pilot Says:

    I agree with the fact that all Coups are illegal and the coup makers should all go to jail.

    Coups are more than just acts of treason, they literally provide significant gain for some while they ruin the lives of others. To try all of the crimes that spawn from a coup would be an exercise in infinity.

    The issue of entitlement is irrelevant here. The RFMF should be disbanded once and for all as they have repeatedly demonstrated an inability to uphold to the fundamental principles of the rule of law in supporting coups for the ‘Highest Bidder’.

    While we have one rule for some and another for the rest then we will argue the fairness of who is in jail and who is not ‘until the cows come home’.

    This latest Coup lies fairly with the Commander of the RFMF and his Military Council. They are guilty of the highest level of treason.

    Their I.G. supporters are simply accessories after the fact and they are indeed, equally guilty, no matter how much the Fiji Judiciary is ‘Cooked’.

    If these outcomes are not achieved, then no amount of Charter building or electioneering will alter the coup culture. If anything, failure to achieve these outcomes will cement it forever.

  13. Adi Kaila Says:

    IF THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE DARK SIDE THEN WE WOULD BE FAILING ON THIS SITE – I REST MY CASE.

    budhau or butthole as the wonderful Natewa Prince & Super Intellligent Jean d’Ark so succinctly named you – you really cannot comment on the everyday life in Fiji or what is actually happening as you try unsuccessfully to attempt to thwart our cyber fight against the ig coupsters & revealing your true self, an imbecile. We are the buttress for the Nation of Fiji to rid it of this treasonous ig. Island Boy was so correct when he commented on what the taxi drivers and others such as vendors in the markets were saying against the coupsters – they are all complaining & want life to go back to some form of normality as it hits them the hardest – yes Ram Singh and Bu Veniana they are all against this irresponsible ig. But you wouldn’t know that – or maybe you do as you’re a VICTIM in the USA where you live, you are sneered at there & so you want everyone to suffer in Fiji – not on your miserable life lil man.

    your nani has come out of the dark budhau satish karan arjun & revealed all about you – HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

    budhaus nani Says:

    April 18, 2008 at 1:43 am
    aare aare Solivakasama, budhau my dota son very bad to you, I give you story now why.

    budhau too much nuni kato nuni kato, aare aare. I say,

    ‘he budhau you too much sarkha, you brain no good, you nuni no grow big like baigani re’.

    Solivakasama budhau never hear me budhau nani, I wek hard, kudari kudari every day for my family to go school. All pass, All have good wek, now have good famali, only budhau, aare aare bapre! But budhau make carving he say is eagle, many many size. I say budhau no people in Fiji pakli like you to buy this carving, not look like eagle re, can’t eat carving.

    No indian gel in Fiji want marry budhau, my dota and he hussbun write every day to all gels india, Siri Lanka, Amerikah, Canada, Malaya, all weld for good Indian gel, good school, good wek. After 10 years aare budhau near qase re, one Indian gel from Canada come marry budhau, good gel, big nurse boss from hostipal Canada, talk Amerika very good, number one gel this one. Black Indian gel but good gel marry budhau.

    Aare Solivakasama wedding night budhau wife, name Muni Kato she chase budhau from he room, Muni Kato say to budhau

    ‘You f#%*n ass hole, don’t you put that thing in me, I’m a nurse damn you & I’ve cut too many friggin’ dildos from emergency patients jeans that I know one in the dark, you bloody indian guys from Fiji are bloody flakes’ aare aare she make too much noise and throw all budhau carving break window and wall and Muni kato break all budhau fingers with big eagle, all budhau fingers smash re.

    I tell Muni Kato budhau wife, aare why you fight beta, you good gel, you wedding night, happy happy night.

    Muni Kato say

    ‘It’s ok nani, I know I’m no bollywood chick, but I am a good worker. I’ll stay married to this MOFO becuz I’m not exactly pretty but that’s all it’s gonna be. My accent & attitude will get me a few guys to have a bitta fun with here, cuz goin back to Canada will be too shameful. I might even sell those dildos to the army, that should keep in saris and Jim Beam for a while.’

    I budhau nani not unnerstan what this talk Ingleesh very fast but I happy Muni Kato stay with budhau and Muni Kato give budhau lap dance, no sorry laptop. budhau say

    ‘f*$%n bajaru, I can’t use this piece of shit’

    Muni Kato she luf luf luf, and say ‘yea man you better get used to it cuz that’s all ya gettin’, I luf luf luf too, all famali happy budhau marry smart gel.

    Now you know Solivakasama, budhau finger all smash, budhau copy paste copy paste all day on lapdog, sorry laptop.

    —————————————————————————–

    bahut bahut shukriya budhaus nani

  14. joji Says:

    The best way to end all coups is for allt he military leaders and military to resign. Fiji does not need any military as it has no enemy within. The only enemy within is the military against the people. If we remove the military then fiji will be truely free from all coups and as for all coup leaders they must all go to jail for life for ruining the running of the nation and its peoples future..end of the line…!!!

  15. Budhau Says:

    Joji – I agree that the military is the problem.

    However, most folks on this site don’t seem to have a problem with the military per se – they just have a problem with the current leadership of the military

    With our military culture and all that – why would we get rid of the military. All we need to do is to get the right kind of leadership in the military – then we need a more powerful military to make sure that the likes of Chaudary could never become PM – it don’t matter none whether the guy wins an election or whatever.

  16. Peace Pipe Says:

    They say this charter will end all coups. What a joke. What do they take us for. We are not fools. So how will it end coups? By making provisions for the army to control the government thru the charter. As I see it the army wants to dictate the type of government that comes into place. One that is subservient to the military and not the other way around which is correct way. It will their terms of negotiation with the government of the day and if the govt does not follow the charter they will intervene once again. So how on earth will it stop coups recurring. I think power has gone into their heads that they just can’t think straight. It is the might of the military and its unbridled power that is in the hands of unthinking military leaders that is the cause of all coups. I mean we dont need to be told this over and over again and yet they try to deceive us by introducing this charter and saying that it will end all coups. I just see this charter as an escape route for the coup perpetrators. Cause once the majority of people support it it will legitimise the presently illegal ig. Thank God the majority are not as naive and have more sense than to believe the cunning device of this farter charter. This time around the charter is getting rejected even more than before as the charter teams go around trying to solicit support for it. It is being rejected by most the provinces that have been visited so far. The others are making up their minds on it. People are starting to see that it is simply the FLP charter as the membership comprises mostly FLP members and its objectives is to weaken the Fijian institutions and give the FLP better chance of regaining government by changing the voting system.

  17. Tuks Says:

    Folks, Ratu Jolame Lewanavanua is current Chairman Lomaiviti Provincial Council and a staunch SDL supporter in the Nadroga Rural Area. Former Market Master – Sigatoka Town Council and a good friend of the Indian communities up the Sigatoka valley.
    A big sham and shame for the Lomaiviti community local and overseas. Like his Naita Nawalowalo, he is just another opportunist exploiting this opportunity to fill his own pocket. Very interesting though , he is the Takalai Gau’s Brother from Sawaieke village. They are the people Voreqe Bainimarama has claims to be from the island of Gau. Blood is thicker than water they say and the Lomaiviti community has been dealt with a big slap in the face and a stab in the back by their con Chairman Ratu Jolame. If Ratu Jo is reading this column please be reminded that your decision to support Vore has not gone down well with the Lomaivit people who supported you for the chairmanship of their Council. We do not need big liu muri type of leadership and will not afford to have them in the future. What a shame..what a shame..vakamadua o iko..

  18. benhur Says:

    Adi Kaila, i like your Budhau (The pooffta) letter from Grandma.On a more serious note, we need a strong leader in the next election who could and would bring in legislations that would guarantee the execution of all Military leaders -especially Bainimarama-that were involved in the 2006 Coup? That is the new elected Government should ask the “UN World Court” to sit in judgement against the Coup perpetrators.Every single military members of the military,Naval forces must all be sent to all the UN Hot spots in the world and banned from re-entering Fiji in their life time? All direct off-spring of these banned military,naval members who would still be here, will also be banned for 5 generations, from joining any disciplinary forces,employed by the Government or member of parliament in Fiji.
    Lets ensure that coup by anyone in our beautiful country is not going to happen ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hows that for Fiji new Democracy!!!!!!!!!!

  19. mustapha Says:

    ben, that was a great idea, but what would we do with the police forces and the commissioner?

  20. bud'hau Says:

    I would hang the commissioner as well and weed out all the corrupt police members and use the same punisment as the military members?

  21. molikana Says:

    benhur, i like it! It is a fantastic idea and could work? How about the members of the Illegal IG such as Chodo,Arse,Naiulukau,Gani-sona etc,etc? I know, use the same sentences as military members-right? Hey i think that we’ve got something here?What can we do to Drunkard Nawalowalo,Jolame Tevi and others? Put them in a boat and drill holes on the bottom once its sailing to Idia? Oilei sara qai mimica nodra tarausese?

  22. Jose Says:

    Put them all in Nukulau island but weed out all the aliens from our government. No more aliens in government

  23. FijiGirl Says:

    @ Joji – If Fiji had no military we would be unable to patrol our vast waters, meaning that illegal fishing, drug running and god knows what else would be rife.

    Also, although the various coups have been disastrous for our nation, the military itself has contributed to our economy and helped train soldiers, doctors, dentists, and made leaders of our young men and women for well over a century.

    I would not blame the soldiers for the sins of their appointed leaders.

    Our military could benefit from a style of leadership like the US where they have the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Our problem has always been that there is a single leader of the military, and how that leader has been appointed.

    If we had JCOS, who each held equal power within the Fiji military, they would keep each other in check – no single leader could ‘flip out’ like Vore because the other leaders would head them off from staging another coup.

    I think we have a military that we COULD be proud of once again – if we just structure it right.

    God bless Fiji

    PS Maths homework : Moron x Idiot = Budhau

  24. SOTIA Says:

    Funny 2 me the rfmf baci speaking again this morning in the Sun. 16 months later and still they opening mouth with unproven allegations already denied. Never learn their lessson to have right story and right allegation. Kena ca gona na totolo calacala. Just typical of the stupidity of the military and its leadership that has put Fiji into the hole it is in. Like shyster, in a hole, they keep digging deeper.

    THROW ANATHA LOG ON THE FAYA!!!

  25. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    Budhau Says: “With our military culture and all that – why would we get rid of the military. ”

    If we look through history, there is a clear “pattern of failure” associated with a military rule. In totality, this pattern found across all military regimes in past indicates the unsustainability and failure of the military experience. If military dictatorship was to be the best thing that ever happened to Fiji since sliced bread, it would have worked by now. Instead, it has failed on each one of the three (or four) occasions that it was put into practice in this country. If military dictatorship had been this nation’s destiny, the people would have happily embraced it and not repelled against it. For twenty years, Fiji and its political institutions have been suffering from a disease. This cancer—military involvement in political affairs and frequent military coups— is silently eating away on the body of this nation. The patient is dying a slow but sure death. The only thing that a period of military rule, like we’ve seen on several occasions in the past, achieves is that it delays the inevitable. It provides the patient with a drip and a booster shot of some energy that creates an artificial impression that things are getting better but, that too, only for a while. When the signs of this booster shot wear off, however, we’re left with a patient that is weaker, sicker, and nearer to its death than it was before the military intervention was administered for not only is the booster shot only an artificial and temporary remedy, it also results in considerable waste of time–years, sometimes a decade–that could have been spent curing the cancer in the first place. The death will surely come unless we, the people of Fiji, follow Costa Rica’s lead and abolish the army. The choice is ours, so can be the future.

  26. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    Abolishing the FIJI Military

    The military is an encumbrance to our political and social life as well as to the public budget ($100 million per year is spent on the Fiji military). It is a threat to our personal security. It has violently overthrown a democratically elected government and carried out arbitrary arrests. Our longest period of democracy and stability will come when the Fiji Military is totally demilitarized: as long as the army is there, it will divert money that is urgently needed for education, healthcare, infrastructure and environmental programs. If you look at the real role of the military in Fiji, you will see that it is the backbone of dictators and an instrument of internal repression.

    Fiji’s commitment to peace and stability will begin when it abolishes its army. A militarily weak country cannot be attacked without provoking international condemnation of the aggressor: and it shows the illegitimacy of armed opposition toward a state that has renounced the use of force. Costa Rica’s experience is proof that Fiji must abolish the army through a constitutional amendment and recognize an Anglo-Saxon nation (Australia) as the dominant superpower of the region and as its ally and friend.

  27. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    FijiGirl Says: “If Fiji had no military we would be unable to patrol our vast waters, meaning that illegal fishing, drug running and god knows what else would be rife.”

    FijiGirl, Fiji MUST follow Costa Rica’s example and ABOLISH ITS MILITARY.

    Demilitarilization does NOT mean an end to national security. Like Costa Rica, we would have an “internal security force” for the maintenance of peace, law & order and for the protection of our seas.

  28. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    FijiGirl Says: “If Fiji had no military we would be unable to patrol our vast waters, meaning that illegal fishing, drug running and god knows what else would be rife.”

    FijiGirl, Fiji MUST follow Costa Rica’s example and ABOLISH ITS MILITARY.

    THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

    It is definitely not good for KIDS WITH GUNS for go around intimidating the people time and time again…..THERE MUST BE AN END TO ALL THIS.

    Demilitarization does NOT mean an end to national security.

    Like Costa Rica, we would have an “internal security force” for the maintenance of peace, law & order and for the protection of our seas.

  29. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    It is definitely not good for KIDS WITH GUNS for go around intimidating the people time and time again…..THERE MUST BE AN END TO ALL THIS.

    IT SHOULD READ:

    It is definitely not good for KIDS WITH GUNS to go around….

  30. OBTZs Says:

    whilst ideas above to end all coups are good, dont you think we should first investigate the circumstances surrounding the coups in order to understand how it came about??? How each was initiated etc….before we can provide solutions…In that way we will be able to address the underlying reasons, & then map a way forward… This is why NCBBF is suspect because they seem to already know the solution before undergoing a thorough independent investigation or enquiry into the coup. They seem to be saying we know the solution without first terlling us what is the problem…It smells of carrying the agenda of the few people who intitiated the 2006 coup and that is why it will not be accepted by the people & will not last… They will be spending all their money on building and defending the charter in the future and will neglect the develeopment priorities of the country. My offer, lets get into election and lets do a through investigation or enquiry and see where we have gone wrong and where the loop holes are, and we work from there…& punish the perpetrators of course..maximum punishment provided under the law..no exceptions…then & only then can we get our countryback standing on its feet again.

  31. Linus Says:

    @OBTZs
    FB’s 2006 exercise was a direct result of his not getting his way in 2000/2001. The Pig DID initiate the 2000 coup [possibly for money]; then reneged on his plan and turned on his own troops; hence the mutiny and the shame piggy feels over his cowardice and run-away and resultant brutalization of the CRW soldiers which has put a price on his head. Chods is just bitter and full of revenge and I suspect that Chodopu$$ pushed a dissenting FB and cronies. The Pig has been manouvering for the 2006 coup since 2001!!

  32. OBTZs Says:

    Linus:
    Exactly: Thats why we need investigations etc..the charter will not be the instrument to pick up the various reasons you have said hence my comments.

  33. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    How can an ‘unsigned’ press statement on military letterhead claim that chaudhry’s charter will stop coups?

    As LQ so lucidly replied, ‘it is the people who conduct coup d’etats that must be changed; a piece of paper can’t do it.

    How can these green goons claim that chaudhry’s charter will stop coups when they also say it hasn’t been written yet?

    Talk about running around in circles.

  34. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    It looks like the auditor general is being pressured by the green goons to hide their sins with the regimental funds. Interesting story in “The Sun”.

    The Auditor-General has refused to respond to queries regarding the alleged overspending of the army’s regimental funds. When contacted yesterday Eroni Vatuloka alleged this newspaper of threatening his staff.
    “You threatened our staff? I have no comments to make on it, okay,” he said before hanging up abruptly. Questions were faxed to his office on Friday on when Mr Vatuloka would next table his report and what was the timeframe given to any ministry or government organisation to pay up the overspent funds.
    These were not answered. Mr Vatuloka’s personal assistant said the response had been faxed.
    When asked to fax another copy, she said the fax machine was in Mr Vatuloka’s room and she would be able to fax it through when he was in and she refused to allow a copy of the fax to be picked up from her office.
    Mr Vatuloka reportedly stayed out of office the entire day as no fax had come through.
    National Federation Party general secretary Parmod Rae has challenged Mr Vatuloka to break his silence.
    “He will have to answer the questions raised because he is empowered by parliament to audit all such funds and to make his findings public. “His silence is suspicious that he must be under the threat from the military or maybe prevented by the military authority to reveal anything regarding the funds.
    “All these funds comprises contributions by the ordinary soldiers and court orders have been passed to allow the Auditor-General to audit the regimental funds,” Mr Rae said. He has also urged the Military Council to make public how the funds have been used.
    “If the funds have not been misappropriated than what is there to hide? Why the secrecy?” he asked.
    No comments could be obtained from the army commander and interim Prime Minister Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama.

  35. Budhau Says:

    Panties-For-Peace – I totally agree with about getting rid of the military and it it can be done.
    It is the Fijian people who have to support this idea – as for them Indians, they had very little to do with the military.

    I could never figure out why our military needed all them M-16s – unless it was to shoot our own people – and it looks like that what those guns were for.

    ..Fijigirl – I think Panties explained how we can patrol our waters w/o the military – the military’s job is to protect us from some external enemy – and I don’t think Tonga is about to attack us anytime soon.

    As for internal security – a professional, well trained police force can take care of things. Remember when Chaudary became the PM – he tried to move that Intelligence unit from the military to the police – and the Mua guy pulled the coup on MC.

    The police seem to be more professional than the military – they only screw things up when some military guy is put in charge of the police. Fiji Police seem to have more of a racial balance – that would provide some checks and balance – just in case someone decided to pull a raced based coup with the support from some police units.

    Linus – it wasn’t the Pig who initiated the 2000 coup and later backed out of it – there were some senior officers who plotted with the Speight gang – actually that ios why FB became so unpopular with some officers – remember the Mutiny – that was just the continuation of the Speight coup.

    If Frank had supported the 2000 coup – there would have been no problems successfully pulling the coup – just like what Rabuka did. Some of you probably hate Frank because he did not throw his weight behind the coup.

    FijiGirl – that joint chiefs of staff, US idea – ain’t gonna work in Fiji – whoever heads the 3rd Fiji Infantry Regiment – can pull a coup regardless.

    As long as folks try and put in place some sort of Matanitu Vanua, we will have chiefs with the support of some militant group trying to pull a coup – and there will always be some in the army with loyalty to their chief – that idea of Seniloli as President and Adi Litia as PM – that idea ain’t dead yet.

  36. bodyguard Says:

    if one group of ppl we need to address its those idiots wearing green uniform being paid by the us the taxpayers and following orders like little children crying for their loly-pop. when will these stupid idiots realise the damage they r doing to the country….they think they r doing us a big favour but honestly….they just useless ppl.

    ni lako mada i vale … ni veicai na sotia.

  37. Linus Says:

    @ Badhau; Thanks, I have read several versions of what was happening at QEB during 2000 coup.

    If RFMF insist that charter will end the “coup culture” then it MAYBE TRUE that the rumours about the PRE_DETERMINED clauses of the Charter:-
    Such as FB for President;
    Military2 B permanent rulers of Fiji;
    No political leaders from Civil Society etc are right eh!!!

    Otherwise This charter means no more than any other charter or constitution!!

  38. woilei Says:

    Sorry for the digression but check out what Mr Haryana is doing :

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Mahender_Chaudhary_visits_ancestral_village/articleshow/2989125.cms

    ROHTAK: Former Prime Minister of Fiji Mahender Chaudhary, who is a minister in the present interim government of the tiny Pacific island nation, is on another visit to his ancestral village here.

    Chaudhary, who is leading a 3-member delegation of the Fijian government to hold talks with Indian leaders including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, today headed straight for a relative’s home in HUDA Sector 4.

    Speaking to reporters while at Madhu Chaudhary’s house, he said a draft charter for installation of a “non-racial” government in Fiji would be ready by August, followed by a public debate in October and a referendum in November- December.

    Chaudhary, who hails from Bahu Jamalpur village, said a 44-member national council of members of the interm government and representatives from civil society were in the process of preparing the charter.

  39. Mark Manning Says:

    If I ever wanted to go to a circus and see clowns , I would book a seat to Fiji and just watch the I.G. in action .

  40. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Disgusting is all I can say to Mahendra Chaudhary and his whole funky show!!
    Someone needs to tell bloody India to stay out of our business but then again they gave all that money and Goodness knows what this idiot MC is telling them there while squandering away the funds they think is being put to use in Fiji for the benefit of the Indo Fijians.

    Geez!!

    When will Mahend Chaudhary decide to just up and move to India for good? I wish he would make if quicker!!
    I now wonder what the DUBAI partygoers are bringing home in their goodie-bags!!

    WHAT A BUNCH OF LOONY TUNES!!

  41. Mark Manning Says:

    Woilei and aubatinuku
    I’ve just emailed the Australian Prime Minister regarding the Indian Governments possible involvement in this coup and the possible funding of it . I have passed on the web-sites you have supplied . Also , I have passed on information regarding a show televised in Sydney on the 23rd of April on SBS , it was either Front Up at 630 am or In Focus at 7 am . Two Indians were discussing that the people’s charter in Fiji , and stating that it was heavily supported by Fijians in general ! I have emailed that program directly , and expressed my concern that I felt it was propaganda for the regime and a misrepresentation etc. of the true facts and challenged them to offer a balanced view by allowing others from the Fijian community to air their opinions also .
    I suggest , that when I offer you guys info . that you take it upon yourselves to voice your opinions also . The silence , can sometimes be deafening . Your communicating to all the different organisations , papers and programs etc. will make a difference . So , check out http://www.raivision.com.au and ask SBS to provide you with a transcript of that program . Then voice your opinion in a positive way .

  42. natewaprince Says:

    Simple solution to the coup culture.The next govt to allow the US navy to park a carrier fleet in Fiji.

    Result?,an end to our economic crisis and an end to the coups by a bunch of qauri goons who are more used to assaulting unarmed civilians.

  43. PANTIES-FOR-PEACE Says:

    great stuff Mark M. Keep up the GREAT FIGHT!

  44. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Thanks for the whats up Mike! I am onto it as we speak!

  45. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Sorry! Typo error – Thanks Mark Manning.

  46. Adi Kaila Says:

    I have stated before that we should get rid of the military once and for all unless there is some very valid role for it in our lives.

    Yes I agree wholeheartedly that we do have to have patrols around the Islands to disuade illegal activities. I wonder if the military was completely disbanded, the more reliable men and women could be retrained to be able to patrol our Islands in well fitted boats and helicopters or planes with the best communication systems available on board.

    Of course the economic viabilities have to be nutted out & I’m sure some of our more qualified bean counters could do this for us. I do think it would be more economic & I really hope it can be done.

    The need for an armoury (although I hate having these things) is still there for this type of work, but the armoury must be properly secured and only accessible to people with the correct security id that should be swiped so there’s no dispute about who has been allowed in.

    The culture in the police should also be scrutinised because most seem to think the same as the army that because they are in the ‘force’ they can treat the public any way they please. Part of their training should be about how to curb their tempers and to think logically before trying to enforce their might. There should also be a CITIZENS ADVOCATE Office where law abiding citizens who have been wrongfully detained or accused can go to with their complaints THAT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED UP thoroughly so the message gets through that you do not assault unarmed civilians. thank You NP.

    So far the military has been a very prickly thorn, usurping the rights of the people and trying to exact justice when there was no need at all except for their own rapaciousneess.

    It’s the right time. We’ve all had enough of the militarys perniciousness. We have to vote for the party that will get rid of it completely, the party that is going to stamp out this coup coupness & never allow it to ever happen again. We must vote for the party that will promise to prosecute every single person who has been part of the ig ministry et al. The party that will execute the prosecutions of these usurpers as speedily as possible so we can stop anyone else who thinks they can escape their misdemeanors by staging another ridiculous coup.

    On this site we have exposed the people who continue to stymie our wish to progress & our way of life in Fiji. Let’s not forget this when it’s all over – don’t ever let them be allowed to work in any government department or agency again. It must be made as clear as day follows night. No more vosota! We have to rid ourselves of this vosota culture. No more respite for the guilty.

    Nukulau is too good for anyone who has broken the law, put them in Korovou gaol where they will slowly go mad because it is closer & more economical to transport them up the hill to St Giles.

  47. woilei Says:

    D Kaila – that is awesome ! All for it.

    Once upon a time the army did have helicopters – if I remember right they were give 5 brand new spanking numbers from the french – guess what ? One by one they crashed. Poof! Just like that . Bleary waste of time and space. That the Fiji Military for you – oh once so brave and noble a force. Now look at them.

    Corrupt, unkempt, no class, no honour or nobility left. Just an army of thugs, bullies and women bashers.

  48. Mark Manning Says:

    Would it be practical to integrate the Fiji Army and Navy into a new Pacific fleet , made up of those countries associated with the Asia Pacific region ?
    Should it be set up like the other alliances such that Australia , New Zealand and the USA have ? That way , training can be ongoing , discipline would be enforced and peace maintained ! As well as the financial benefits continuing to the smaller countries in that all would be on the same wage ! Once retired , these military personnel would make a great contribution to society with their expertise etc. And more importantly , the threat of more coups , would be removed .

  49. Adi Kaila Says:

    They are supposed to part of that now but other countries are fed up with their coup culture that they keep imposing on this Nation. They are paid by the public purse but they do nothing except drag the public down with them.

    It has to end sometime – the next elections (?) if it eventuates should dismantle the military once and for all.

    All their gear (drugs not included), desks, tables, mess gear, uniforms, boots, berets etc should be sold at the Roc Market to pay for children to go to school without fear of being sent home. If they want to live at the barracks they have to pay full rent that goes into public funds for the benefit of the community.

    Shorry modri but they’ve all been living off the fat of the land for far too long and at the same time causing endless misery to the Nation.

  50. Mark Manning Says:

    You’l have to look up SBS details , i can’t seem to find their contact details . I know they will have their number in the business section of the Australian white pages online , but I’m unable to find the contact online to email them etc.

  51. Mark Manning Says:

    Adi kaila
    i meant go ahead and dismantle the fiji military and incorporate the loyal Military personell into an amalgamated force or alliance where all are trained under the one umbrella , with the one command . Not as individual forces !

  52. jati Says:

    @ woilei

    ena baci dua na icovi nei baku chorochoro mai haryana

    me vaka a tukuna mai haryana o choro: FIJI IS MY HOMELAND BUT INDIA WILL ALWAYS BE MY MOTHERLAND!

    tamata qo e vei yabaki e vuka tiko i haryana! cava lai caka tiko? e dua nona PHD o Hon Dr Choro, e lai vakaicocovi mai vei ira na GOPIO, e laki honorary citizen. Bai lesu mai qo bai dua na ivola mai vei santa claus harbajan lal.

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    Chaudhry and the money to flee Fiji
    March 18, 2008

    Fiji’s finance minister has been cleared of evading taxes, but as Michael Field reports, the way Mahendra Chaudhry got his money remains a puzzle – as does the way the military turn a blind eye to it.

    It was a muggy Suva afternoon when the world finally saw a haggard Mahendra Chaudhry walk out of Fiji’s Parliamentary compound after 56 days as a hostage.
    On the exact anniversary of becoming Fiji’s first ethnic Indian prime minister, on May 19, 2000, confused ethno-nationalist and now convicted traitor George Speight seized Parliament and took the government prisoner.
    When, on that hot July afternoon, Chaudhry walked free, helped by Red Cross head John Scott who a year later would be murdered, his premiership was over.
    The then, as now, military commander Voreqe Bainimarama, had installed a banker, Laisenia Qarase, as interim prime minister and would not re-instate Chaudhry.
    Painting himself as a democracy martyr Chaudhry went to Australia and New Zealand and began fundraising, nominally for his Fiji Labour Party and a planned legal battle to overturn the Qarase Government.
    He went onto Bahu Jamalpur in the Rohtak district of Haryana, north west of Delhi. In 1912 Chaudhry’s grandfather Ram Nath had signed up believing he was joining the British Army, but instead found himself a contract worker in the sugar cane plantations in Fiji.
    During the hostage crisis relatives had called for Indian commandos to be sent to Fiji.
    “These people are savages,” niece Madhu Chaudhry said at the time. “These people should be killed.”
    After his release Chaudhry was greeted in India as a hero. Some of the passion was mercenary; Chaudhry’s father and uncle had
    4.4 hectares of land in Bahu Jamalpur that was subject to drawn out court action. Part of the dispute turned on who was the proper heir and knowing the deposed prime minister was useful.
    India gave him a special award (along with Dunedin’s ex-mayor Sukhi Turner) and Haryana began fund raising for him.
    In 2003, in a restored Fiji Parliament, Chaudhry publicly denied receiving any money.
    In May 2004 the Fiji Islands Revenue and Customs Authority (FIRCA) learnt, through processes in a Double Taxation Agreement with Australia, that Chaudhry had around NZ$1.8 million in Australia and New Zealand.
    They were not concerned with the source of the money, but whether Chaudhry was paying tax on the A$220,000 in interest it earned.
    Chaudhry then wrote to Haryana politician Harbajan Lal about the money.
    “You have asked for details of the fund,” Lal replied on September 9, 2004 saying they had formed a committee after Chaudhry had told them it wanted to leave Fiji and live in Australia. They money was to help him start a new life away from Fiji.
    “Accordingly, lakhs (tens of thousands) of people from Haryana including traders, businessmen, landlords and non-resident Indians contributed heavily for the cause.”
    Lal said the money had poured in over three years and with the help of the Indian Consul General in Sydney, Chaudhry received $1.8 million.
    FIRCA’s investigation remained as secret as anything can be in Fiji, which meant most politicians knew.
    In December 2006 Bainimarama staged a coup. Chaudhry, who had appealed for money as a defender of democracy, joined the military regime as finance minister, which included being in charge of FIRCA.
    The coup had been justified as the only way to end high-level corruption but it is far from clear whether Bainimarama knew about the secret Chaudhry money.
    Despite military attempts to silence critics, rumours grew about Chaudhry’s money, and on August 16 last year FIRCA attacked the Fiji Sun, saying it was running a “politically motivated smear campaign” over an unnamed minister.
    “FIRCA wishes to make clear that there are no tax issues concerning ministers … on which appropriate action has not been taken when required or warranted.”
    Finally on February 23 this year the Rupert Murdoch owned Fiji Times ran a front page headline: “It’s Chaudhry”.
    Locally owned rival the Fiji Sun next day published large tracts of tax material obtained by a London based Indo-Fijian legal academic and activist Victor Lal.
    A day later Fiji Sun publisher Russell Hunter was seized by the military government and deported. Given the Times’ multinational connections it was not so easy to hit them.
    Chaudhry instead said he would sue them for F$1 billion (NZ$836 million).
    Just back from a trip to India, Bainimarama on February 25 said Chaudhry had discussed the allegations with him and he had been told by FIRCA “that there were no breaches of the Income Tax Act by the minister”.
    He said the “usual opportunists and corrupt people”, including the media, were behind the claims.
    “While I was away the usual power hungry people who have no qualms in dividing the nation for their own political gain took the opportunity once again to incite.”
    An “independent inquiry” into Chaudhry’s tax affairs was quickly put together, headed by Australian accountant Bruce Cowley. It asked whether Chaudhry met his tax obligations and whether he breached Fiji’s Exchange Control Act.
    By March 10 the short inquiry, which held no public hearings, cleared him.
    What was striking was that while Chaudhry had steadfastly denied over the years that he had the money from India, the inquiry accepted the money was there.
    “The amounts held in the Australian and New Zealand financial institution accounts earned interest which was, in the main, (apart from the amounts remitted to Fiji to meet tax liabilities) reinvested back into those accounts,” the inquiry report said.
    “Subject to this, none of the interest appears to have been remitted to Fiji.”
    The inquiry accepted the now infamous Lal letter about the money raised in India.
    “Over time, Mr Chaudhry has moved amounts between different financial institution accounts in Australia and has applied monies in those accounts to make gifts to family members and appears also to have used them to pay for various personal expenses outside Fiji,” the report said.
    But the report said he had not been guilty of tax evasion and his non-disclosure of interest earned “resulted from inadvertence and arose out of a misunderstanding of the application of Fiji laws to interest earned outside Fiji…”
    This was no ordinary errant taxpayer; this was the Minister of Finance and ex-Prime Minister himself.
    The inquiry only dealt with tax on interest owed; it made no mention of whether Chaudhry should have the money at all.
    Bainimarama hails the report as proof his minister is not corrupt.
    He is silent on Chaudhry, 66, sitting on a large sum of money given to him to flee Fiji for Australia.
    Not only did he stash the money beyond Fiji’s hands, he went on to join the next coup on the rank and found himself heading the very body that should investigate him.
    With the inquiry declaring all is normal, Fiji’s military instead turned on the media who sought accountability.
    Little wonder Fiji celebrates under the logo “coup coup land” but the biggest unanswered question is not what Chaudhry has done with the money but why is anti-corruption buster Bainimarama so adamantly protecting him?
    Lots of speculation provides options. Given what happened when people asked about Chaudhry’s money, questioning Bainimarama’s skeletons is going to be very risky.

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    Haryana gets another hero
    Vishnu Makhijani
    Aug 18, 2000 17:30 Hrs (IST)
    Rohtak: Things will never quite be the same again in this small town, 70 km from Delhi. Rohtak might have returned to its laid-back ways, a day after the high- profile visit of deposed Fijian prime minister Mahendra Pal Chaudhry, but the memories will linger for a long time.
    For one, “Mahendra Pal”, as most of the locals referred to him and his village, Bahu Jamalpur, a 15-minute drive from the city, has forever, become a part of local folklore. His name is now referred to in the same breath as other local heroes – Sir Chotu Ram, and Brigadier Hoshiar Singh — to name just two.
    Sir Chotu Ram is the man who is credited with being the first to instill a sense of nationalism among the Haryanvis, as the people of the state are referred to, which culminated in the creation of Haryana in 1967. Brigadier Hoshiar Singh was awarded the Param Vir Chakra, the country’s highest award for valour, during the 1965 war with Pakistan.
    Now, the people of Haryana have another hero. It doesn’t matter that he is no longer prime minister of a land far away that they have only just heard of. It doesn’t matter that he might never become prime minister again.
    But, for the people of Haryana, who are very particular about salutations, he will always be “Respected Dr. Mahendra Pal Chaudhry, Prime Minister of the People’s Coalition Government, Republic of Fiji.”
    Somewhere down the line, he might even be addressed as “Chaudhry Mahendra Pal” (the Chaudhry in this case being a term of respect for an elder).
    Chaudhry himself put the issue in perspective. “My grandfather and grandmother left for Fiji in 1912. They returned in 1928 but left again in 1937. My father was born in Fiji but he studied for a while in a ‘gurukul’ (village school) in Bahu Jamalpur,” he said in his acceptance address at the Maharishi Dayanand University, where he was conferred an honorary doctorate.
    “It was an experience that changed his life. It opened his eyes to the value of education, a value that he instilled in me and which I have instilled in my children,” Chaudhry said.
    And there was the clincher at the public meeting: “Fiji is my homeland but India will always be my motherland.” From the applause, it certainly went down well with the 10,000-strong crowd, who had waited patiently for more than five hours to hear him speak.
    Thus, there was instant response to an appeal by Chief Minister Om Prakash Chautala to the citizens of the state to contribute Rs 1 per head. “Haryana has a population of 16 million. Let us present a purse of Rs 16 million to Mahendra Pal Chaudhry before he returns home on August 26,” Chautala said.
    “This is only the beginning. We will give them as much money as they want,” Chautala added for good measure.
    Not without reason did Chaudhry comment that the welcome he received was “overwhelming because I am not used to this even back home.”
    At the end of the day, what the people of Haryana will also remember is that the Chaudhry visit brought together politicians from across the spectrum on one stage. Sharing the dais with Chaudhry and Chautala at the public reception were politicians from the Congress, the Bharatiya Janata Party, the Haryana Vikas Party, the Bahujan Samaj Party and the Communist Party of India-Marxist.
    In all this two politicians stood out – Surinder Singh and Ajay Singh. Surinder Singh’s father, Bansi Lal, had to give way to Chautala after the last elections. Ajay Singh was once a member of the Lok Dal party that was led by Chautala’s father, Devi Lal. Now, Ajay Singh belongs to another faction of the Lok Dal.
    And yet, the two Singhs went out of their way to sing Chautala’s praise. It might not lead to any political realignment, but it is things like this that the people of Haryana remember for long.
    And also the fact that the Chaudhry visit put Haryana in the world spotlight – even if it was for only a day.
    India Abroad News Service

    1. Concern in Haryana
    in Bahu Jamalpur … Ram Nath was the only one from Bahu Jamalpur to leave for Fiji, but there were … and his wife returned to Bahu Jamalpur, where he died. …
    http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1712/17120140.htm – Cached

    2. rediff.com: Deposed Fiji premier Mahendra Chaudhary’s visit
    The village, Bahu Jamalpur, which lies on the outskirts of Rohtak town, is dominated by Jats. … grandfather, Ram Nath, left Bahu Jamalpur in 1911 for Fiji …
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/aug/16fiji.htm – Cached

    3. rediff.com: Haryana villagers angry over Fiji leader’s ouster
    Tara Shankar Sahay in Bahu Jamalpur, Haryana … Bahu Jamalpur is a typical Haryanavi hamlet boasting olde worlde dignity and …
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/may/21fiji.htm – Cached

    4. jamalpur (india)
    … Ram Nath, who hailed from Bahu Jamalpur village in Rohtak district, left for Fiji in 1912. … Acrobat – Versione HTMLJAMALPUR is the headquarters of the …
    jglewis.freehostia.com/view/new/jamalpur-india – Cached

    5. The Tribune, Chandigarh, India – Haryana
    … the South Pacific nation, has cast gloom over his native village, Bahu-Jamalpur. … be so shortlived”, said Risaldar (Retd) Daryao Singh of Bahu-Jamalpur. …
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/20000520/haryana.htm – 84k – Cached

    6. News Headings
    … Minister of Fiji on May 19, hails from Bahu-Jamalpur village, 7 km from here. … after spending a few months in Bahu-Jamalpur, Mr Nath stayed back to look after …
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99may22/head6.htm – Cached

  53. jati Says:

    tu na da! dou totaka tiko ga na ca kei na butobuto ni yavu sotia macawa!

    mai haryana mada ga e vaqarai tiko na $16m era solia na lewenivanua. Ia e kilai tiko ga e $2m ka solia vei choro na embassy ni India e Australia.

    Baci vuka qo o choro ki haryana me tomika mai na vo ni sede?

    ________________________________________________________

    AS USUAL, POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CULPRITS IN BUNGLING RELIEF FUNDS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THEM POCKETING MONEY, COLLECTED FOR THE RELIEF. THERE ARE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    ************************************

    http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/nation/2005/january/101173.htm
    How relief donations are pocketed

    By: Narendra Kaushik
    January 9, 2005

    —————————————————————————–

    New Delhi: As an overwhelmed country queues up to donate in cash and kind for victims of the tsunami, bus operators in Sri Ganganagar, a border district in Rajasthan, are running away from donation-seekers. They have every reason to do so.

    They still have not tracked down Rs 1,11,000 they collected and deposited with the District Transport Authority (DTA) for the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs in 1999. Despite local police and the lokayukta of Rajasthan state having probed the case, to date only Rs 44,000 has been recovered. The rest of the money is still lost.

    The bus operators, who ran from pillar to post to seek action against the DTA officials and escape the ‘illegal’ recovery, the vindictive Authority imposed on them, are obviously frustrated. They find the word relief a misnomer.

    “Naturally we feel the pain of the tsunami-affected people. But how do we trust the relief funds?” asks Pawan Kataria, a bus operator and local Congress leader. Talking to Sunday Mid Day, Kataria claimed that he and other bus operators had no interest left in the relief funds. He anticipated another multi-crore scam in the tsunami relief fund.

    Ironically, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s office cannot guarantee that there will not be a repeat of Ganganagar in the tsunami funds. The most it can do is to warn people to keep off the ‘illegal’ collection of money done on roadsides, in markets and residential colonies.

    “It is totally illegal to collect money in public places. It is nothing but begging,” said an IAS officer in the PMO, adding that the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund only accepted money through cheques.

    The officer could not believe that people contributed to the Fund on roads and public places. He said the PMO received money mostly from corporates and individuals who wanted tax benefits.

    A number of nationalised banks also accept donations directly for the PM’s Fund. All these contributions are exempt from income tax under 80 G of the Income Tax act 1961.

    The Prime Minister’s office did not answer how it planned to spend the money, on the grounds that the PM’s Fund was a permanent feature and got replenished off and on.

    They claimed that it was a regularly audited account where every single cheque was issued and drawn from the bank with the approval of the PM. The banks charge no collection fee even when cheques are drawn on outstation banks.

    But these are the safeguards applicable more to the PMO and in no way guarantee that there will be no mismanagement and non-utilization of the donated amount. After all, during collection of the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs, there were many reports on non-utilization of the contributions.

    Many cheques were left unattended and allowed to become outdated in the PMO. So much so that M N Das, a Rajya Sabha MP raised the matter in the Parliament.

    Sources who were privy to the PMO room where the cheques were piled, say that a lot of people availed temporary tax benefits, though their cheques were not encashed by the PMO. Das, who is now bedridden in Orissa, recollects that he raised the matter after he got to know that contributions of certain individuals were not utilized.

    Though the tsunami is barely 14 days old, there are already reports of mismanagement pouring in from different quarters.

    Tonnes of utensils, blankets, bed sheets, biscuits, medicines and clothes have been lying at the Bharatiya Janata Party office because the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government has not agreed to carry it to the affected areas unless the district administration is allowed to distribute it. The BJP obviously wants to distribute it on its own to extract political mileage.

    “We have requested the government. It says hand it over to us. We want it to be distributed through our organisation. It is always better to distribute relief material through party workers and NGOs,” says general secretary and Lok Sabha MP Shivraj Singh Chouhan.

    Chouhan also alleged that the government had not facilitated distribution of relief material by BJP leaders. Alleging discrimination, he claimed that the government did not provide a helicopter to Jaswant Singh, leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha, though it gave one to Mukul Wasnik and Sanjay Singh.

    The BJP will raise these issues in an all-party meeting on Sunday. The meeting has been called to discuss the tsunami and its aftermath.

    Chouhan also cautioned the government against the mismanagement of funds. Ironically, the BJP failed to do just that in Hoshiarpur district of Punjab where two of its leaders Hansraj Nakra and Satpal Sarin were arrested for pocketing funds collected for the Kargil martyrs.

    The duo collected 3.28 lakh, but deposited only 1.23 lakh with the PM Relief Fund.

    But why single out BJP leaders? Comptroller and Auditor General of India, India’s watchdog on government money, found irregularities in the utilisation of government funds during the super cyclone in Orissa and the earthquake in Gujarat as well.

    In Kerala, the Kerala Vyapari Sangh, a body of businessmen belonging to several districts, broke off after certain members accused the president of the organisation of bungling funds collected for the Kargil Martyrs and Gujarat earthquake.

    Meanwhile, the prime minister on Saturday announced a package of Rs 150 crore to be released to the Andaman and Nicobar government as immediate relief for implementing immediate rehabilitation measures.
    With this, the total announced by Dr Singh for the tsunami-hit states has so far touched Rs 700 crore. This includes Rs 250 crore to Tamil Nadu, Rs 100 crore each to Andhra Pradesh and Kerala and Rs 50 crore to Pondicherry.

    Dr Singh said that a defence team would decide on whether the air base in Nicobar needed to be shifted because of the tsunami tragedy.

    Chautala ghotala

    AS USUAL, POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CULPRITS IN BUNGLING RELIEF FUNDS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THEM POCKETING MONEY, COLLECTED FOR THE RELIEF. THERE ARE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    The Bhatinda racket

    Surprisingly, while Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund is open to scrutiny by government auditors, state chief ministers face no such audit of their Relief account. They can spend the money wherever they feel like spending it. There are also instances when they fail to account for money withdrawn from the state treasury in the name of Relief Funds.

    Former chief minister of Punjab and currently Deputy CM, Rajendra Kaur Bhattal, is still facing trial for the Rs 20 lakh she withdrew from the state treasury in mid 90s. Bhattal withdrew the money for construction of an indoor hall for boxing in Bhatinda.

    Unfortunately for her, she signed on the receipt but forgot to return the money. Balwant Singh Dhillon, President of Amateur Boxing Association of Bhatinda, filed a case against her. Dhillon who also heads an organisation called Judicial Accountability & Human Rights Protection Organisation, told Sunday Mid Day that Bhattal had made all kinds of offers to him to withdraw the case.

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  54. jati Says:

    tu na da! dou totaka tiko ga na ca kei na butobuto ni yavu sotia macawa!

    mai haryana mada ga e vaqarai tiko na $16m era solia na lewenivanua. Ia e kilai tiko ga e $2m ka solia vei choro na embassy ni India e Australia.

    Ni caka tiko na veivaqaqai mai haryana, ia na lasu o choro ena palimedi, ni sega ni dua na rupi e soqona mai Idia.

    Baci vuka qo o choro ki haryana me tomika mai na vo ni sede?

    ________________________________________________________

    AS USUAL, POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CULPRITS IN BUNGLING RELIEF FUNDS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THEM POCKETING MONEY, COLLECTED FOR THE RELIEF. THERE ARE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    ************************************

    http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/nation/2005/january/101173.htm
    How relief donations are pocketed

    By: Narendra Kaushik
    January 9, 2005

    —————————————————————————–

    New Delhi: As an overwhelmed country queues up to donate in cash and kind for victims of the tsunami, bus operators in Sri Ganganagar, a border district in Rajasthan, are running away from donation-seekers. They have every reason to do so.

    They still have not tracked down Rs 1,11,000 they collected and deposited with the District Transport Authority (DTA) for the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs in 1999. Despite local police and the lokayukta of Rajasthan state having probed the case, to date only Rs 44,000 has been recovered. The rest of the money is still lost.

    The bus operators, who ran from pillar to post to seek action against the DTA officials and escape the ‘illegal’ recovery, the vindictive Authority imposed on them, are obviously frustrated. They find the word relief a misnomer.

    “Naturally we feel the pain of the tsunami-affected people. But how do we trust the relief funds?” asks Pawan Kataria, a bus operator and local Congress leader. Talking to Sunday Mid Day, Kataria claimed that he and other bus operators had no interest left in the relief funds. He anticipated another multi-crore scam in the tsunami relief fund.

    Ironically, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s office cannot guarantee that there will not be a repeat of Ganganagar in the tsunami funds. The most it can do is to warn people to keep off the ‘illegal’ collection of money done on roadsides, in markets and residential colonies.

    “It is totally illegal to collect money in public places. It is nothing but begging,” said an IAS officer in the PMO, adding that the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund only accepted money through cheques.

    The officer could not believe that people contributed to the Fund on roads and public places. He said the PMO received money mostly from corporates and individuals who wanted tax benefits.

    A number of nationalised banks also accept donations directly for the PM’s Fund. All these contributions are exempt from income tax under 80 G of the Income Tax act 1961.

    The Prime Minister’s office did not answer how it planned to spend the money, on the grounds that the PM’s Fund was a permanent feature and got replenished off and on.

    They claimed that it was a regularly audited account where every single cheque was issued and drawn from the bank with the approval of the PM. The banks charge no collection fee even when cheques are drawn on outstation banks.

    But these are the safeguards applicable more to the PMO and in no way guarantee that there will be no mismanagement and non-utilization of the donated amount. After all, during collection of the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs, there were many reports on non-utilization of the contributions.

    Many cheques were left unattended and allowed to become outdated in the PMO. So much so that M N Das, a Rajya Sabha MP raised the matter in the Parliament.

    Sources who were privy to the PMO room where the cheques were piled, say that a lot of people availed temporary tax benefits, though their cheques were not encashed by the PMO. Das, who is now bedridden in Orissa, recollects that he raised the matter after he got to know that contributions of certain individuals were not utilized.

    Though the tsunami is barely 14 days old, there are already reports of mismanagement pouring in from different quarters.

    Tonnes of utensils, blankets, bed sheets, biscuits, medicines and clothes have been lying at the Bharatiya Janata Party office because the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government has not agreed to carry it to the affected areas unless the district administration is allowed to distribute it. The BJP obviously wants to distribute it on its own to extract political mileage.

    “We have requested the government. It says hand it over to us. We want it to be distributed through our organisation. It is always better to distribute relief material through party workers and NGOs,” says general secretary and Lok Sabha MP Shivraj Singh Chouhan.

    Chouhan also alleged that the government had not facilitated distribution of relief material by BJP leaders. Alleging discrimination, he claimed that the government did not provide a helicopter to Jaswant Singh, leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha, though it gave one to Mukul Wasnik and Sanjay Singh.

    The BJP will raise these issues in an all-party meeting on Sunday. The meeting has been called to discuss the tsunami and its aftermath.

    Chouhan also cautioned the government against the mismanagement of funds. Ironically, the BJP failed to do just that in Hoshiarpur district of Punjab where two of its leaders Hansraj Nakra and Satpal Sarin were arrested for pocketing funds collected for the Kargil martyrs.

    The duo collected 3.28 lakh, but deposited only 1.23 lakh with the PM Relief Fund.

    But why single out BJP leaders? Comptroller and Auditor General of India, India’s watchdog on government money, found irregularities in the utilisation of government funds during the super cyclone in Orissa and the earthquake in Gujarat as well.

    In Kerala, the Kerala Vyapari Sangh, a body of businessmen belonging to several districts, broke off after certain members accused the president of the organisation of bungling funds collected for the Kargil Martyrs and Gujarat earthquake.

    Meanwhile, the prime minister on Saturday announced a package of Rs 150 crore to be released to the Andaman and Nicobar government as immediate relief for implementing immediate rehabilitation measures.
    With this, the total announced by Dr Singh for the tsunami-hit states has so far touched Rs 700 crore. This includes Rs 250 crore to Tamil Nadu, Rs 100 crore each to Andhra Pradesh and Kerala and Rs 50 crore to Pondicherry.

    Dr Singh said that a defence team would decide on whether the air base in Nicobar needed to be shifted because of the tsunami tragedy.

    Chautala ghotala

    AS USUAL, POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CULPRITS IN BUNGLING RELIEF FUNDS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THEM POCKETING MONEY, COLLECTED FOR THE RELIEF. THERE ARE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    The Bhatinda racket

    Surprisingly, while Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund is open to scrutiny by government auditors, state chief ministers face no such audit of their Relief account. They can spend the money wherever they feel like spending it. There are also instances when they fail to account for money withdrawn from the state treasury in the name of Relief Funds.

    Former chief minister of Punjab and currently Deputy CM, Rajendra Kaur Bhattal, is still facing trial for the Rs 20 lakh she withdrew from the state treasury in mid 90s. Bhattal withdrew the money for construction of an indoor hall for boxing in Bhatinda.

    Unfortunately for her, she signed on the receipt but forgot to return the money. Balwant Singh Dhillon, President of Amateur Boxing Association of Bhatinda, filed a case against her. Dhillon who also heads an organisation called Judicial Accountability & Human Rights Protection Organisation, told Sunday Mid Day that Bhattal had made all kinds of offers to him to withdraw the case.

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  55. jati Says:

    tu na da! dou totaka tiko ga na ca kei na butobuto ni yavu sotia macawa!

    mai haryana mada ga e vaqarai tiko na $16m era solia na lewenivanua. Ia e kilai tiko ga e $2m ka solia vei choro na embassy ni India e Australia.

    Ni caka tiko na veivaqaqai mai haryana, ia na lasu o choro ena palimedi, ni sega ni dua na rupi e soqona mai Idia. Ia, era kilavata kei CHAUTALA or CHORO na ilavo ya!

    Baci vuka qo o choro ki haryana me tomika mai na vo ni sede?

    ________________________________________________________

    HOW FUNDS ARE POCKETED BY INDIAN POLITICIANS

    HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    ************************************

    http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/nation/2005/january/101173.htm
    How relief donations are pocketed

    By: Narendra Kaushik
    January 9, 2005

    —————————————————————————–

    New Delhi: As an overwhelmed country queues up to donate in cash and kind for victims of the tsunami, bus operators in Sri Ganganagar, a border district in Rajasthan, are running away from donation-seekers. They have every reason to do so.

    They still have not tracked down Rs 1,11,000 they collected and deposited with the District Transport Authority (DTA) for the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs in 1999. Despite local police and the lokayukta of Rajasthan state having probed the case, to date only Rs 44,000 has been recovered. The rest of the money is still lost.

    The bus operators, who ran from pillar to post to seek action against the DTA officials and escape the ‘illegal’ recovery, the vindictive Authority imposed on them, are obviously frustrated. They find the word relief a misnomer.

    “Naturally we feel the pain of the tsunami-affected people. But how do we trust the relief funds?” asks Pawan Kataria, a bus operator and local Congress leader. Talking to Sunday Mid Day, Kataria claimed that he and other bus operators had no interest left in the relief funds. He anticipated another multi-crore scam in the tsunami relief fund.

    Ironically, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s office cannot guarantee that there will not be a repeat of Ganganagar in the tsunami funds. The most it can do is to warn people to keep off the ‘illegal’ collection of money done on roadsides, in markets and residential colonies.

    “It is totally illegal to collect money in public places. It is nothing but begging,” said an IAS officer in the PMO, adding that the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund only accepted money through cheques.

    The officer could not believe that people contributed to the Fund on roads and public places. He said the PMO received money mostly from corporates and individuals who wanted tax benefits.

    A number of nationalised banks also accept donations directly for the PM’s Fund. All these contributions are exempt from income tax under 80 G of the Income Tax act 1961.

    The Prime Minister’s office did not answer how it planned to spend the money, on the grounds that the PM’s Fund was a permanent feature and got replenished off and on.

    They claimed that it was a regularly audited account where every single cheque was issued and drawn from the bank with the approval of the PM. The banks charge no collection fee even when cheques are drawn on outstation banks.

    But these are the safeguards applicable more to the PMO and in no way guarantee that there will be no mismanagement and non-utilization of the donated amount. After all, during collection of the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs, there were many reports on non-utilization of the contributions.

    Many cheques were left unattended and allowed to become outdated in the PMO. So much so that M N Das, a Rajya Sabha MP raised the matter in the Parliament.

    Sources who were privy to the PMO room where the cheques were piled, say that a lot of people availed temporary tax benefits, though their cheques were not encashed by the PMO. Das, who is now bedridden in Orissa, recollects that he raised the matter after he got to know that contributions of certain individuals were not utilized.

    Though the tsunami is barely 14 days old, there are already reports of mismanagement pouring in from different quarters.

    Tonnes of utensils, blankets, bed sheets, biscuits, medicines and clothes have been lying at the Bharatiya Janata Party office because the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government has not agreed to carry it to the affected areas unless the district administration is allowed to distribute it. The BJP obviously wants to distribute it on its own to extract political mileage.

    “We have requested the government. It says hand it over to us. We want it to be distributed through our organisation. It is always better to distribute relief material through party workers and NGOs,” says general secretary and Lok Sabha MP Shivraj Singh Chouhan.

    Chouhan also alleged that the government had not facilitated distribution of relief material by BJP leaders. Alleging discrimination, he claimed that the government did not provide a helicopter to Jaswant Singh, leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha, though it gave one to Mukul Wasnik and Sanjay Singh.

    The BJP will raise these issues in an all-party meeting on Sunday. The meeting has been called to discuss the tsunami and its aftermath.

    Chouhan also cautioned the government against the mismanagement of funds. Ironically, the BJP failed to do just that in Hoshiarpur district of Punjab where two of its leaders Hansraj Nakra and Satpal Sarin were arrested for pocketing funds collected for the Kargil martyrs.

    The duo collected 3.28 lakh, but deposited only 1.23 lakh with the PM Relief Fund.

    But why single out BJP leaders? Comptroller and Auditor General of India, India’s watchdog on government money, found irregularities in the utilisation of government funds during the super cyclone in Orissa and the earthquake in Gujarat as well.

    In Kerala, the Kerala Vyapari Sangh, a body of businessmen belonging to several districts, broke off after certain members accused the president of the organisation of bungling funds collected for the Kargil Martyrs and Gujarat earthquake.

    Meanwhile, the prime minister on Saturday announced a package of Rs 150 crore to be released to the Andaman and Nicobar government as immediate relief for implementing immediate rehabilitation measures.
    With this, the total announced by Dr Singh for the tsunami-hit states has so far touched Rs 700 crore. This includes Rs 250 crore to Tamil Nadu, Rs 100 crore each to Andhra Pradesh and Kerala and Rs 50 crore to Pondicherry.

    Dr Singh said that a defence team would decide on whether the air base in Nicobar needed to be shifted because of the tsunami tragedy.

    Chautala ghotala

    AS USUAL, POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CULPRITS IN BUNGLING RELIEF FUNDS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THEM POCKETING MONEY, COLLECTED FOR THE RELIEF. THERE ARE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    The Bhatinda racket

    Surprisingly, while Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund is open to scrutiny by government auditors, state chief ministers face no such audit of their Relief account. They can spend the money wherever they feel like spending it. There are also instances when they fail to account for money withdrawn from the state treasury in the name of Relief Funds.

    Former chief minister of Punjab and currently Deputy CM, Rajendra Kaur Bhattal, is still facing trial for the Rs 20 lakh she withdrew from the state treasury in mid 90s. Bhattal withdrew the money for construction of an indoor hall for boxing in Bhatinda.

    Unfortunately for her, she signed on the receipt but forgot to return the money. Balwant Singh Dhillon, President of Amateur Boxing Association of Bhatinda, filed a case against her. Dhillon who also heads an organisation called Judicial Accountability & Human Rights Protection Organisation, told Sunday Mid Day that Bhattal had made all kinds of offers to him to withdraw the case.

    http://www.sikhnet.com/…/6bfd0090ba14caaf87256f8b006382fe?Navigate&To=NextMain

  56. jati Says:

    tu na da! dou totaka tiko ga na ca kei na butobuto ni yavu sotia macawa!

    mai haryana mada ga e vaqarai tiko na $16m era solia na lewenivanua. Ia e kilai tiko ga e $2m ka solia vei choro na embassy ni India e Australia.

    Ni caka tiko na veivaqaqai mai haryana, ia na lasu o choro ena palimedi, ni sega ni dua na rupi e soqona mai Idia. Ia, era kilavata kei om prakash CHAUTALA or CHORO na ilavo ya!

    Baci vuka qo o choro ki haryana me tomika mai na vo ni sede?

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    HOW FUNDS ARE POCKETED BY INDIAN POLITICIANS

    HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

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    http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/nation/2005/january/101173.htm
    How relief donations are pocketed

    By: Narendra Kaushik
    January 9, 2005

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    New Delhi: As an overwhelmed country queues up to donate in cash and kind for victims of the tsunami, bus operators in Sri Ganganagar, a border district in Rajasthan, are running away from donation-seekers. They have every reason to do so.

    They still have not tracked down Rs 1,11,000 they collected and deposited with the District Transport Authority (DTA) for the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs in 1999. Despite local police and the lokayukta of Rajasthan state having probed the case, to date only Rs 44,000 has been recovered. The rest of the money is still lost.

    The bus operators, who ran from pillar to post to seek action against the DTA officials and escape the ‘illegal’ recovery, the vindictive Authority imposed on them, are obviously frustrated. They find the word relief a misnomer.

    “Naturally we feel the pain of the tsunami-affected people. But how do we trust the relief funds?” asks Pawan Kataria, a bus operator and local Congress leader. Talking to Sunday Mid Day, Kataria claimed that he and other bus operators had no interest left in the relief funds. He anticipated another multi-crore scam in the tsunami relief fund.

    Ironically, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s office cannot guarantee that there will not be a repeat of Ganganagar in the tsunami funds. The most it can do is to warn people to keep off the ‘illegal’ collection of money done on roadsides, in markets and residential colonies.

    “It is totally illegal to collect money in public places. It is nothing but begging,” said an IAS officer in the PMO, adding that the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund only accepted money through cheques.

    The officer could not believe that people contributed to the Fund on roads and public places. He said the PMO received money mostly from corporates and individuals who wanted tax benefits.

    A number of nationalised banks also accept donations directly for the PM’s Fund. All these contributions are exempt from income tax under 80 G of the Income Tax act 1961.

    The Prime Minister’s office did not answer how it planned to spend the money, on the grounds that the PM’s Fund was a permanent feature and got replenished off and on.

    They claimed that it was a regularly audited account where every single cheque was issued and drawn from the bank with the approval of the PM. The banks charge no collection fee even when cheques are drawn on outstation banks.

    But these are the safeguards applicable more to the PMO and in no way guarantee that there will be no mismanagement and non-utilization of the donated amount. After all, during collection of the Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund for Kargil martyrs, there were many reports on non-utilization of the contributions.

    Many cheques were left unattended and allowed to become outdated in the PMO. So much so that M N Das, a Rajya Sabha MP raised the matter in the Parliament.

    Sources who were privy to the PMO room where the cheques were piled, say that a lot of people availed temporary tax benefits, though their cheques were not encashed by the PMO. Das, who is now bedridden in Orissa, recollects that he raised the matter after he got to know that contributions of certain individuals were not utilized.

    Though the tsunami is barely 14 days old, there are already reports of mismanagement pouring in from different quarters.

    Tonnes of utensils, blankets, bed sheets, biscuits, medicines and clothes have been lying at the Bharatiya Janata Party office because the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government has not agreed to carry it to the affected areas unless the district administration is allowed to distribute it. The BJP obviously wants to distribute it on its own to extract political mileage.

    “We have requested the government. It says hand it over to us. We want it to be distributed through our organisation. It is always better to distribute relief material through party workers and NGOs,” says general secretary and Lok Sabha MP Shivraj Singh Chouhan.

    Chouhan also alleged that the government had not facilitated distribution of relief material by BJP leaders. Alleging discrimination, he claimed that the government did not provide a helicopter to Jaswant Singh, leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha, though it gave one to Mukul Wasnik and Sanjay Singh.

    The BJP will raise these issues in an all-party meeting on Sunday. The meeting has been called to discuss the tsunami and its aftermath.

    Chouhan also cautioned the government against the mismanagement of funds. Ironically, the BJP failed to do just that in Hoshiarpur district of Punjab where two of its leaders Hansraj Nakra and Satpal Sarin were arrested for pocketing funds collected for the Kargil martyrs.

    The duo collected 3.28 lakh, but deposited only 1.23 lakh with the PM Relief Fund.

    But why single out BJP leaders? Comptroller and Auditor General of India, India’s watchdog on government money, found irregularities in the utilisation of government funds during the super cyclone in Orissa and the earthquake in Gujarat as well.

    In Kerala, the Kerala Vyapari Sangh, a body of businessmen belonging to several districts, broke off after certain members accused the president of the organisation of bungling funds collected for the Kargil Martyrs and Gujarat earthquake.

    Meanwhile, the prime minister on Saturday announced a package of Rs 150 crore to be released to the Andaman and Nicobar government as immediate relief for implementing immediate rehabilitation measures.
    With this, the total announced by Dr Singh for the tsunami-hit states has so far touched Rs 700 crore. This includes Rs 250 crore to Tamil Nadu, Rs 100 crore each to Andhra Pradesh and Kerala and Rs 50 crore to Pondicherry.

    Dr Singh said that a defence team would decide on whether the air base in Nicobar needed to be shifted because of the tsunami tragedy.

    Chautala ghotala

    AS USUAL, POLITICIANS ARE THE BIGGEST CULPRITS IN BUNGLING RELIEF FUNDS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF THEM POCKETING MONEY, COLLECTED FOR THE RELIEF. THERE ARE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. HARYANA CHIEF MINISTER OM PARKASH CHAUTALA COLLECTED MONEY FOR HIS NRI BROTHER IN FIJI, MAHENDRA CHAUDHARY AFTER THE LATTER WAS OUSTED AT GUNPOINT.

    CHAUTALA IS YET TO HAND OVER THE MONEY HE COLLECTED (RS 1 FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE) FOR CHAUDHARY UNDER ‘INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY’ IN AUGUST 2000. THE CONGRESS ALLEGES HE COLLECTED RS FIVE CRORE WITH MUCH OF THE MONEY HAVING BEEN RECEIVED IN CASH. CHAUTALA PROMISED TO HAND OVER THE CASH TO CHAUDHARY WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER HIS ANNOUNCEMENT IN BAHU JAMALPUR, THE LATTER’S ANCESTRAL VILLAGE IN ROHTAK.

    CHAUDHARY CAME TO INDIA IN 2002 TO PARTICIPATE IN PRAVASI BHARATIYA DIVAS, BUT CHAUTALA WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN SUNDAY MID DAY ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT HAND OVER THE MONEY TO CHAUDHARY, CHAUTALA SAID THAT THE TRANSFER INVOLVED TWO SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES.

    REFUTING CONGRESS’ CLAIM, INDO-FIJI FRIENDSHIP SOCIETY SECRETARY SHER SINGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT ONLY RS.1.2 CRORE WAS COLLECTED AND IT WAS TO DATE DEPOSITED IN A BRANCH OF UNION BANK OF INDIA IN PANCHKULA. THOUGH BADSHAMI SAID THAT CHAUDHARY WAS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, HE DID NOT HAVE EITHER HIS NUMBER OR ADDRESS.

    The Bhatinda racket

    Surprisingly, while Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund is open to scrutiny by government auditors, state chief ministers face no such audit of their Relief account. They can spend the money wherever they feel like spending it. There are also instances when they fail to account for money withdrawn from the state treasury in the name of Relief Funds.

    Former chief minister of Punjab and currently Deputy CM, Rajendra Kaur Bhattal, is still facing trial for the Rs 20 lakh she withdrew from the state treasury in mid 90s. Bhattal withdrew the money for construction of an indoor hall for boxing in Bhatinda.

    Unfortunately for her, she signed on the receipt but forgot to return the money. Balwant Singh Dhillon, President of Amateur Boxing Association of Bhatinda, filed a case against her. Dhillon who also heads an organisation called Judicial Accountability & Human Rights Protection Organisation, told Sunday Mid Day that Bhattal had made all kinds of offers to him to withdraw the case.

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  57. jati Says:

    apologies SV TEAM and FREEDOM BLOGGERS for the multiple postings above.

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  59. jati Says:

    Does choro have other bank accounts? Could more money be in accounts under his children? Statements published so far show funds sent in 2001/2002. Yet in 2003 and 2005, money was still being collected by the Indo-fiji Friendship Society AND money was in their accounts. Do they still have those funds and if not, when/where were the extra funds sent to?

    The Tribune, Chandigarh, India – Haryana
    “What was the reason then for handing over the money to a self-styled ‘Indo-Fiji Friendship Society’ and what was the criteria for constitution of such …
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030129/haryana.htm

    The Tribune, Chandigarh, India – Haryana
    The Chief Minister, Mr Om Prakash Chautala, today offered to hold a probe into the alleged misuse of funds collected by the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society for …
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030122/haryana.htm

    Musings on Fiji: Where are Cyclone Ami Funds?
    Aug 10, 2006 … Why has the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society (IFFS) issued denials and clarifications now and not Mr Chaudhry or the FLP? …
    victorlal.blogspot.com/2006/08/where-are-cyclone-ami-funds.html

    The Hindu : Irregularities in fund collection for ex-Fiji PM: Cong.
    However, the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society and the ruling Indian National Lok Dal (INLD) have dismissed allegations of committing any irregularities. …
    http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/01/19/stories/2003011902700700.htm

    How relief donations are pocketed in India
    Chautala is yet to hand over the money he collected (Rs 1 from every person in the state) for Chaudhary under ‘Indo-Fiji Friendship Society’ in August 2000. …
    http://www.sikhnet.com/…/6bfd0090ba14caaf87256f8b006382fe?Navigate&To=NextMain – 19k – Cached – Similar pages

    Mahendra Chaudhry – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    … and was instead deposited in the Oriental Bank of Commerce account of the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society. INLD Secretary General Ajay Singh Chautala, …
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahendra_Chaudhry

    The Hindu : New Delhi News : Briefly
    19: The Indo-Fiji Friendship Society and Bharat Krishak Samaj Delhi unit, organised a function to felicitate India’s High Commissioner designate to Fiji, …
    http://www.hindu.com/2005/02/20/stories/2005022002860400.htm

    ‘Bhajan’s charges all lies’-Chandigarh-Cities-The Times of India
    An association called Indo-Fiji Friendship Society had been set up to collect the money, was deposited in the society’s name in Orient Bank of Commerce, …
    timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/34900848.cms

    Mahendra Chaudhry
    … because of currency regulations, and was instead deposited in the Oriental Bank Of Commerce account of the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society . …
    http://www.seattleluxury.com/encyclopedia/entry/Mahendra_Chaudhry

    IYC seeks Chautala’s dismissal
    Row over funds for deposed Fiji PM
    Tribune News Service
    Chandigarh, January 28, 2003
    The controversy over the money collected for helping deposed Prime Minister of Fiji Mahendra Chaudhary got a boost today with the Indian Youth Congress demanding the dismissal of Haryana Chief Minister Om Prakash Chautala for failing to adhere to “constitutional norms”.
    An IYC delegation led by its President, Mr Randeep Singh Surjewala, who presented a memorandum to the Governor of Haryana, Babu Parmanand, on this issue here, also urged the Governor to order a CBI probe to find out truth about the quantum of money collected and the ‘Indo-Fiji Friendship Society’ which was said to be in possession of the funds.
    The memorandum, which contained a blow-by-blow account of Mr Chautala’s announcement to collect funds for helping Mr Chaudhary, an NRI of Haryana origin, said that in a public function held at Bahujamalpur in Rohtak district, the Chief Minister had undertaken to collect Re 1 each from the 1.6 crore population of the state. The function, which was held to felicitate Mr Chaudhary, took place on August 17, 2000, and the money was to be given to him before his departure on August 26.
    The memorandum added that Mr Chautala had asked workers of the INLD as well as other political parties, panches and sarpanches to collect money and deposit it with the SDMs or the Deputy Commissioners concerned before August 26, 2000. It claimed that workers of political parties and others collected money to the tune of Rs 6 crore which was deposited with the SDMs and DCs concerned. A majority of the donations were received in cash, it claimed.
    The memorandum questioned why money in crores collected in the name of Mr Chaudhary was not handed over to him even 31 months after August 26, 2000, when he was supposed to be presented with the collection. People cutting across political affiliations had joined the campaign and the money, by the Chief Minister’s own admission, was routed through the SDMs and the DCs concerned (A clipping of The Tribune was enclosed with the memorandum to substantiate the point about deposition of the money with the DCs and the SDMs). “What was the reason then for handing over the money to a self-styled ‘Indo-Fiji Friendship Society’ and what was the criteria for constitution of such society? Why has the society not handed over the money till date to its rightful owner”, asked the memorandum.
    Pointing out the contradictions between the statements of Mr Sher Singh Badshami, President of the INLD’s Haryana unit and also Secretary of the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society, who said that money was collected only in the form of bank drafts and cheques, and of Chief Minister Chautala’s announcement about collecting Re 1 from each Haryanvi, the IYC asked exactly how much money was collected.
    The memorandum said it had now been stated by the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society that the money would be utilised for NRIs of Haryana origin and not for Mr Chaudhary questioning that what was the justification of raising the money then. It also asked for the date on which the money was deposited in Oriental Bank of Commerce, Sector 19, Chandigarh, it also asked as who was in possession of the money between August, 2000, and the day when it was deposited in the bank.
    Claiming that “fraud by Mr Chautala and his party is thus writ large” in the Fiji episode, the memorandum said when a person holding the highest office in the state was engaged in defrauding the people of the state, it amounted to his ceasing to hold allegiance to the law of the land. The use of government officials in the fraud also amounted to violation of Article 164(3) read with Third Schedule of the Constitution of India, stated the memorandum.
    Mr Surjewala later said the Governor gave them a patient hearing lasting about 40 minutes when they went to submit the memorandum. Mr Satwinder Singh Sandhu and Mr Harmohinder Singh Lucky, presidents of IYC’s Haryana and Chandigarh units, respectively, also accompanied him to Raj Bhavan, he added.
    ============================
    CM offers probe into Indo-Fiji society funds
    Our Correspondent
    Hisar, January 21
    The Chief Minister, Mr Om Prakash Chautala, today offered to hold a probe into the alleged misuse of funds collected by the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society for helping the Fijian struggle for restoring democracy, provided credible evidence was given in this regard.
    Addressing a press conference here today he said the society headed by INLD MP from Rohtak Inder Singh had collected funds for the specific purpose as ousted Fijian Prime Minister Mahendra Chaudhry hailed from Rohtak district.
    He maintained that the society had been maintaining proper records of the funds and the money was safely lying in a bank account. Mr Chautala said the Opposition was raking up the issue to defame him.
    ===============================

    Irregularities in fund collection for ex-Fiji PM: Cong.
    CHANDIGARH JAN. 18. The collection of funds for the deposed Fiji Prime Minister, Mahendra Chaudhary in Haryana, has turned into a controversy with the Pradesh Congress demanding a CBI probe into the source of money. The Haryana Congress president and former Chief Minister, Bhajan Lal, at a news conference here today, sought to know the details of the funds collected in Haryana and demanded a CBI probe into its sources.
    However, the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society and the ruling Indian National Lok Dal (INLD) have dismissed allegations of committing any irregularities.
    The Haryana INLD president and society member, Sher Singh Badshami, in a statement, refuted the allegations levelled by the Congress leaders, including the Legislature Party leader, Bhupinder Singh Hooda. Mr. Badshami termed them as “baseless.”
    He said the Chief Minister and INLD national president, Om Prakash Chautala, has nothing to do with the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society.
    The society president is Inder Singh, MP, while the treasurer is Ram Lal of Rania and the patron-in-chief is Mr. Chaudhary himself, he said. He said the Rs. 1 crore received from the public had been deposited in the society’s name in a bank here.
    — UNI

  60. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Very interesting reading Jati, thanks!

  61. jati Says:

    @ aubatinuku-N

    you welcome! all on the great world wide web!

    Just going off topic a bit folks.

    I like that SV is now putting up useful pdfs. Fingers crossed SV doesn’t get scratched like HnC, WFC and RFC but I wonder about the archive of materials and analysis produced since 5/12

    A question: FDN has an archive, but, besides bainivore, fuggedaboutit, discom-bubu, intelligentsiya, tardwatch and our own individual pcs, are there are other web archives of anti-IG, anti-coup analysis including letters to the editors, opinion articles, legal analysis, economic analysis, blog posts etc etc??

    Does anyone know how this can be setup on the web? so far with increased storage, hotmail etc are useful storage, but even fiji times will take stuff off its site, as will fijilive and they won’t be on those sites forever.

    Another off topic question – SV gets about 3,000 hits per day, do fijilive or fijivillage get that kind of traffic? the times must have the highest traffic of all – anyone have any idea of FL, FV, FT traffic stats?

  62. FijiGirl Says:

    @ Adi Kaila & Panties-for-Peace

    I really value what you say about our situation in Fiji, and you and I are normally on ‘the same page’ but I do feel that in some matters ‘the military’ are to easily being demonised and oversimplified.

    I just want to make a few of points.

    1) Fiji needs to protect her borders, and needs internal security. The police can carry most of internal security, but it is not geared up to protect our borders, nor it is appropriate for the police to do so (or we are vulnerable to becoming a police state, just as we are now a military state).

    2) The iig is making overtures to the Govts of India, China and various nefarious regimes in the Middle East. Without a strong military, we are very vulnerable to these countries turning us into their brand spanking new colony. And please don’t say ‘the US will never allow it’ because the US has half of Samoa and Fiji is not a strategic necessity to them (as much as we may value their support and diplomatic activity at all times). This is not to say that it WILL happen. It is to say that it COULD happen, and we are extremely vulnerable to it.

    3) It is important for the anti-iig fraternity to NOT alienate the soldiers. I have pointed out in other postings that the ONE power base Vore has is the loyalty of his soldiers. If we can destablise that loyalty, he becomes NOTHING. The one strength Chodo-Prasad has in this Junta is his support from Vore and the soldiers. If the soldiers rebel against Vore, Chodo-Prasad has NOTHING, especially because the vast majority of his former supporters want to disembowel him for choro-ing all the money he said he was raising on their behalf.

    4) What do the soliders get out of all this? They have employment, training, and food on the table for their families. They have hope for a better life than if they were unemployed and untrained. And face it, for most of these men and women, if they did not have the military, their job prospects are not great. Their other options are public service, tourism, fisheries, and not much else. Please don’t blame the soldiers for the sins of their leader. Besides, we ALL have a relative in the military, or who is former military. The soldiers are not strangers to us, they are of us. It is not fair to demonise them.

    5) Those bloggers calling for Chodo-Prasad to be assasinated are oversimplifying the case. Remember Jai Ram Reddy, and all the people who called for nasty things to happen to him? Well, the moment he lost his leadership of the Fiji Indians, he was replaced by someone interminably worse – MP Chodo-Prasad. If Chodo-Prasad is killed by activists, he will become a martyr (a title of which he is completely unworthy) and will also probably be replaced by someone infinitely worse. You cannot ‘defeat’ him in death. What we need is for him to be annihilated at the ballot box. Electoral humiliation will destroy him once and for all, where the only thing left to save him will be Jesus and the Grace of God.

    We live in hope.

    God bless Fiji

    PS Budhau – you are too stupid to understand what I have written, to don’t try to pretend that you do.

  63. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    Dou sa bula vinaka.

    Although I am new, may I have a say.

    There are many who feel hurt, traumatised and angry about the coup culture and have called for its abolition.

    FijiGirl’s argument is that we don’t ‘throw the baby out with the bathwater’ because the RFMF has been a good institution in the past, and only a few bad Commanders have given it a bad name.

    Former Land Force Colonel Meli Saubulinayau said that the coup culture will only be stopped if the Commander abides by the rule of law. This means that the coup culture will continue, unless the Commander commits to the rule of law.

    The question then is how do we get the Commander to abide by the rule of law? The Commander does swear an oath of allegiance to the President as his Commander in Chief and will uphold the laws of Fiji, but the coups have proven how useless the oaths are if the Commander does not want to abide by it.

    Maybe FijiGirl can enlighten us as to how can we ensure the Commander does abide by the rule of law when we have an elected government? We are all on the same side, but we differ on some issues, which is a good thing because good friends can ‘agree to disagree.’ General George Patton was quoted as saying ‘If everyone is thinking the same thing, then someone is not thinking.’

    Some have argued such as Adi Kaila & Panties-for -peace, why have an Army because we do not have enemies and also Fiji simply cannot afford it amongst other things?

    The Military used to be a huge foreign exchange earner for Fiji, but no longer is now and it is the remittances of civilians living overseas which is the biggest foreign exchange earner and the Military budget now spends much more than it brings in.

    Both arguments ‘for and against’ the retaining of the Military in post-coup Fiji has its valid points and will be something future governments will have to grapple with, but one thing is for sure, no one wants a Military Dictator like Bainimarama.

  64. FijiGirl Says:

    Bula Jese W. Thank you for the feedback.
    I have 2 suggestions for ending the coup culture.
    Let me start by saying that I think the Constitution, which cannot be abrogated, is a good start.
    Even though the Junta has chosen to ignore the articles of the Constitution which prohibit them from doing what they are doing, they cannot wriggle out of the fact that they are disregarding the rule of law – the cannot paint themselves in positive light, no matter what they say or how they try to twist the truth.

    1) Joint Chiefs of the Military and Police.
    The coup culture has continued because we continue to have 1 leader of the military.
    Having Joint Chiefs, like they do in the USA means the JCs keep each other in check, power does not lie exclusively with 1 of them, or 1 faction of them.
    They are their own check-and-balance.

    2) Mandatory death sentence for whoever holds a coup de tat.
    The problem with Speight and Vore is that they saw Rabuka pardoned, so they thought they could hold their coups without consequences.
    Some people feel that Rabuka and Speight should NOT have been pardoned, or had their sentences commuted. I think that the benchmark must be set.
    If you want to hold a coup, it has to be for a cause you are willing to die for. Speight, Vore and Chodo-Prasad fail the test, miserably.
    They held their coups because they feel they could get away with it, not for moral conviction or the desire to make Fiji a better place.
    They just thought they can get away with it.
    They are not willing to die for their cause, have no honour, but are prepared to make the rest of the nation suffer for their egos.

    Thank you for the chance to discuss this. Your insomnia must be as bad as mine.

    God bless Fiji

  65. Mark Manning Says:

    Fijigirl
    get some sleep !

  66. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    @ FijiGirl, the concept of a Joint Chiefs like they have in the US and Australia may not work in Fiji because of the great disparity in the discipline Force size.

    For instance, the Military is by far the largest disciplined Force in Fiji with about 5,000 plus soldiers, then you have the Navy with less than 1,000 strong, so it means the Military Commander will always be chosen over the Navy as Chairman and will greatly influence the Navy.

    In Fiji’s case, Bainimarama never would have been selected for the position of Commander by merit. This was Ganilau’s doing prior to his departure as Commander.

    Ganilau wanted a Commander who will continue to support him when he enters politics, which was with the then VLV Party. Most of the senior Officers refused to support him when he finished from the Military and that was when he identified Bainimarama who was willing and promoted him over and above the more senior Colonels namely GK, Vatu and others.

    However, I agree with the death penalty if one is convicted of treason because I truly believe it will stop the coup culture.

  67. bisbetica Says:

    @ JW

    Hear Hear!

    Agree with death penalty for treason. But the very constitution that the RFMF/IG continues to trample on every day, is the constitution that will save their worthless hides – The right to life would prevent a court from pronouncing that sentence and the death penalty was removed from the Penal Code by SDL in 2003 by an Act of Parliament.

    I would say Ganilau wanted a Commander who would ensure too that the regimental and other RFMF fund records continue to be closed to the auditor general – as they remain closed to this day despite a Supreme Court ruling for the RFMF to open up the records. On the other hand, if the soldiers don’t care if their officers eat up their hard earned money deducted into the regimental etc funds, its their choice.

    There are ways that acquiescence and co-option can be criminalised in the law – when Fiji returns to parliamentary democracy. Laws can be enacted to criminalise any action that furthers the coup – eg civil servants should not obey instructions from unelected ministers, or soldiers or other coup perpetrators, all taxpayers money spent by unlawful ministers to be regarded as stolen and subject to criminal prosecution, soldiers be prohibited from following unlawful order (and an unlawful order being to help depose an elected government etc). All those who accept board appointments, council appointments etc from unelected cabinets be subject to criminal prosecution etc etc, a clear demarcation between police and army functions and no mixing of the two, and any attempts otherwise to mix them be subject to criminal prosecution.

  68. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    @ bisbetica, I am unaware of the death penalty being abolished by the SDL by an Act of Parliament in 2003.

    This I know, after Speight was condemned to death, the SDL Government through the AG’s Chambers recommended the death sentence be commuted to life through the Prerogative of Mercy Commission provisions in section 115(1) of the Constitution.

    So, if I am correct, the death penalty is still in existence, but the Prerogative of Mercy Commission may not recommend coup perpetrators like Bainimarama be eligible because his case is far different from Speights.

    Speight was a civilian and was handed down the death penalty, but commuted to life, whereas Bainimarama being a military Commander knows fully well the consequences of his actions and should have known better.

    As the saying from the good book says: ‘to whom much is given, much is expected.’

  69. bisbetica Says:

    @ JW

    Yes – see the Penal Code amendment Act 2002. It removed the death penalty as a punishment from Fiji’s law books and substituted life imprisonment. But this came after Speight was convicted of treason, sentenced to death by Judge Scott and had his death penalty sentence commuted to life by President Iloilo after the Mercy Commission made the recommendation to Iloilo. Up to the amendment of the Penal Code, Death by hanging was the ONLY penalty in the Penal Code for treason.

  70. Jese Waqalekaleka Says:

    @ bisbetica

    Thanks for the update.

    I agree it should be reinstated.

    Moce mada.

  71. FijiGirl Says:

    Vinaka JW. I understand about the disparity in force size, but we can work out boundaries, or restructure regiments, to work around this.

    Thanks for your clear explanation of Bainimarama’s selection, also. I remember it being controversial, but did not quite understand til now the finer points. I do remember being impressed with Bainimarama when he brought down Speight’s insurgents. Little did I know then what we all know now.

    I also agree with your earlier point that no one wants a military dictator, in Fiji or elsewhere. That is why we, the people, must keep agitating for fresh, free and fair elections, and supporting the international community and NGO’s in their efforts to make this Junta stick to the promised timetable. The only way to beat these bullies is by the ballot box.

    @ Mark Manning – Thanks : )

    God bless Fiji

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