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Silences can tell you more than words

May 16, 2008

As someone who has closely watched the antics of Fiji’s bumbling regime over
the past 18 months or so I have learned a very important lesson: often
it’s not what the regime says that you should take note of. Instead, it’s
their silences on particular topics that indicate that there is something
afoot.

This is because this regime has not only sought to create a climate of
fear and mistrust, but because deep down it knows it’s illegal and that
makes it also a victim of fear and distrust. Fear and distrust of being
shown to everyone once again for what it is.

Here’s a case in point: why has it been several weeks since we heard
anything from the regime and its minions, including from the talkative
John (yap-yap) Samy himself, about the IMG (the independent monitoring
group)? Like the proverbial ship in the night, they seem to have come and
gone.

Could it be that the IMG was just a front to give the charter process a
cloak of respectability? Or, as I suspect, has something gone badly wrong?
For example, have the members of the IMG suddenly developed a bad case of
cold feet after getting up close and personal with the deadbeats on the
NCBBF? Has the IMG simply dissolved like an ice cream exposed to the hot
sun?

What strikes me as particularly strange is that we haven’t heard anything
about the IMG drawcard, Dutchman Geert Van Den Linden, who is after all
something of a VIP, and certainly of sufficient stature to give the regime a
touch of class, even by association. Linden is a former senior vice
president of the Asian development bank.

You would think that with all the pressure he’s getting from everyone from
Winston Peters to the Commonwealth Ministers Action Group and with more
and more provinces voting with their feet, Bainimarama would have by now
got Linden to strut his stuff for the cameras once again.

I ask this for a simple reason that is obvious, at least to me; when it
comes to selling the charter and keeping the Commonwealth dogs off his
heels. Linden’s prestige could do a lot for Frank’s credibility when he
needs it the most. Someone of Linden’s stature is about the only card
Frank has up his sleeve without pulling out the gun he always keeps up the
other one.

Or does the silence tell us something else? Does it tell us that Frank can
no longer use Linden because Linden is no longer available to the regime?
Does the silence about Linden and the IMG tell us that yet another name
has been added to the abandoned ship list?

Another silence that is more telling than words is the silence of the
police in relation to the two death threats received by the Australian
Ambassador,
James Batley. When the first threat was received on 8 May the police behaved
like something out of the TV series, the FBI. There were announcements and
statements that there would be a quick arrest.

Then everything fell silent. Significantly, the police maintained their
silence even after the media reported widely on the second threat on 15
May, one week after the first.

What does that silence tell us? Perhaps it’s telling us that that the
police have got nowhere in their investigations and are downright
embarrassed. Or
perhaps it’s telling us something far more sinister:

(a) that the police have a very good idea who is responsible

(b) but because the people the police believe are responsible just happen
to be who they are, no further action can be taken.

Welcome to Fiji under Frank and the Chodopu$$. Yes, we have heard lots of
words from those two (far too many of them empty and false in my opinion),
but it’s sometimes the silences that can tell you more about what is really
happening.

CORRUPTION FIGHTER

The Costa Rica Example

May 15, 2008

As SOME people, mark the 21st anniversary of Rabuka’s coup, a lot of public debate and ideas are flying around as to what should be done to END THIS COUP CULTURE and really move-on. I know it has been raised numerous times before that MAYBE the answer to all our woes is to ABOLISH THE MILITARY.

Although for now I, and other law-abiding-sick-of-coups-citizens believe that that would be the BEST STEP our nation should take, some people (maybe the current military personnel themselves and their supporters) may think otherwise.

However, if we study how some coup-ridden countries have overcome this problem of “military involvement” in their governments, the BEST example there is to date, is Costa Rica.

And this is how they did it. More information can be found in this site

Source: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2019.htm

HISTORY

An era of peaceful democracy in Costa Rica began in 1899 with elections considered the first truly free and honest ones in the country’s history. This began a trend that continued until today with only two lapses: in 1917-19, Federico Tinoco ruled as a dictator, and, in 1948, Jose Figueres led an armed uprising in the wake of a disputed presidential election.

With more than 2,000 dead, the 44-day civil war resulting from this uprising was the bloodiest event in 20th-century Costa Rican history, but the victorious junta drafted a constitution guaranteeing free elections with universal suffrage and the abolition of the military. Figueres became a national hero, winning the first election under the new constitution in 1953. Since then, Costa Rica has held 14 presidential elections, the latest in 2006.

GOVERNMENT
Costa Rica has no military and maintains only domestic police and security forces.
POLITICAL CONDITIONS
Costa Rica has long emphasized the development of democracy and respect for human rights. The country’s political system has steadily developed, maintaining democratic institutions and an orderly, constitutional scheme for government succession. Several factors have contributed to this trend, including enlightened leadership, comparative prosperity, flexible class lines, educational opportunities that have created a stable middle class, and high social indicators. Also, because Costa Rica has no armed forces, it has avoided military involvement in political affairs, unlike other countries in the region.

So, there we have it. If a small country like Costa Rica (who shares some similarities with ours) can make it successfully without a military, why can’t we do it?

So, the challenge is: WHO can be the hero to have the guts to ABOLISH OUR MILITARY?

EnufDictatorship

Help!

May 14, 2008
Dear Bloggers,
Can you please ask you contacts and find out the names and positions of Australian’s and NZ’s currently working for the illegal regime. These appointments must be after the coup.
For those working before the coup and their contracts had expired after the coup, but have since been renewed.
We need them because one of our regular writers will be writing an Article to the interpreter and they will consider printing it and he may also write in the local papers in Australia and also send off it of to the Australian PM, etc.

If you have names, and the positions they have taken up please post it in the comment areas of this request.

Vinaka,

SV team.

Reader Riposte: Fiji and the e-rebellion

May 13, 2008

Thought this might interest bloggers:

Tui writes in with this comment on our Fiji debate:

One inadvertent result of the Bainimarama coup which will be its undoing, is the creation of various blog sites set up by professional Fijians like Soli Vakasama, which in Fijian means ‘let’s discuss’ and at the moment currently enjoys the most popular status having received over 370,000 hits.

There are other blog sites such as Kutusebeneivore, Hearts and Minds, Hyde n ceek, Fiji Democracy Now, Discombobulated Bubu, Fiji Silenced and Sai Lelea, which are irrefutable signs of professional Fijians standing up to the illegal government and criticising them on issues and facts, which were non existent during the previous coups.

I support general elections to be held in 2009 and it seems inevitable the SDL will be re-elected with an even larger Fijian vote.

It also seems highly probable that the National Federation Party (NFP) will make great inroads into the Indian vote and the biggest loser with be the Fiji Labour Party (FLP), however I disagree with Sanjay Ramesh’s conclusion that it will lead to an ‘even more violent outcome’.

Electoral reform can be carried out during parliamentary debates, but I maintain that the only guarantee to total eradication of the coup culture in Fiji is to hold people accountable for their actions and allow the law to bring them to justice.

Damned GCC Meeting and its consequences

May 13, 2008

There has been much speculation over the much-anticipated GCC Meeting to nominate a Vice President.

 

Nawalowalo, the head of the Task Force sent out to the 14 Provinces has stated that as long as they obtain the 2/3 or 32 out of the 52 delegates, they have a quorum to convene the GCC.

 

So far, Tailevu, Rewa, Cakaudrove, Naitasiri, Namosi, Lomaiviti, Ra and Nadroga have rejected both the People’s Charter and the newly constituted GCC and will refrain from sending its delegates to the GCC.

 

Ba, on the other hand chooses to abstain and awaits the outcome of Ratu Ovini Bokini’s & Ors court challenge, but will not send its delegates as well.

 

9 Provinces will refrain sending its 27 delegates to the GCC (the majority traditionally owners of native lands throughout Fiji) under the 2008 GCC Regulation; a quorum of 34 delegates is required before the GCC Meeting can legally proceed.

 

Therefore the proposed GCC Meeting for June is already damned because it lacks the necessary legal quorum and further rejections from other Provinces only substantiates what many Fijians have been claiming all along, which the IG has been rejecting, that the majority of the Fijians reject the IG and all what it stands for.

 

It is intriguing when you muse that if another Province was to either reject or abstain from sending its 3 delegates to the GCC Meeting, then it brings up the total of 30 delegates or more than 2/3 of the total 42 delegates from the 14 Provinces even including Rotuma’s delegates will not be present, which is undisputed evidence of where the Fijian peoples’ true loyalty and sympathies lie.

 

Bainimarama and the IG are aware they are the scourges of Fijian society despite what they claim to the contrary and this is evidenced in the fact, they cannot freely travel in Fiji without bodyguards.

 

Why then continue with the charade that they have the right to rule Fiji, bringing about great misery, poverty, unemployment, injustice, nepotism, threaten the media, unilaterally make decisions without regard to the rule and law as seen in the unlawful deportation and perversion of the course of justice in Evan Hannah and Russell Hunter’s case amongst others and their wasteful expenditure of hard earned tax-payer funds in numerous questionable overseas trips and white elephant NCBBF?

 

Why prolong the inevitable? The coup in December 2006 was illegal and there is simply no justification at all despite all the legal jargon and claims.

 

Even if the illegally appointed Gates, Pathick and Byrnes rules in favour of the IG and against Qarase, their decision will never withstand proper scrutiny and will never be accepted by the majority of Fijians and other Fiji law abiding citizens and may trigger massive unrest in Fiji.

 

The majority of Fijians and all law abiding citizens everywhere eagerly await the demise of the IG and anticipate the time when they and their shadowy advisors are brought to justice.

 

I foresee courts reconvened in large auditoriums, such as the Tradewinds Convention Centre, to accommodate the large interest both domestically and internationally observing due process of law at work in holding people accountable for their actions and bringing them to justice.

 

It is the due process of the law, holding people accountable for their actions and bringing them to justice and not the self-claimed white elephant People’s Charter, which will guarantee the permanent eradication of the coup culture in Fiji.

 

Tui Savu.

Lawyer.

Townsville. QLD.

Another from the archives: Military Budget Allocation used for New Alliance election campaign - Auditor General

May 13, 2008

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Eveli & Teca’s Trips to Australia paid for by RFMF. Actually by you and me, the taxpayer!

The audit noted the military used its Telesat Project fund of $500,000 to buy goods and services that were not related to the project and it included:
The payment of rugby gear and travel expenses for the RFMF rugby team; and,
$150,000 worth of expenses for the Truth and Justice Campaign of which details of only $55,467 were provided, including details of airfares to Taveuni for a former Commander and wife (Eveli & Ateca Butabutako) on three occasions and one to Australia including domestic travel and accommodation. This suggests that the campaign was practically the spearhead for the failed election campaign of the National Alliance Party,

It was not enough what they did to the Regimental Fund while in the Military. De mataivalu nei Ta!

KEEPING UP TO DATE

May 13, 2008

Fiji’s Children Asking More Questions

May 12, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNBnvwjZ7eU

 

Click on this link for a powerful message on Youtube.

I may have figured out what Chaudary is up to!

May 12, 2008

General Sun Tzu is attributed with saying of tactics and strategy - “you may perceive my tactics, but my strategy remains hidden”.  Looking at Chodo’s tactics to date, a pattern emerges.  We can conclude what were his original aims, and what is his ‘end game’ strategy. 

 

1. Actions to Date – Team up with FB.  FB stage military coup.  Form interim govt with FB.  Take over judiciary. 

Problems – Pressure from international community for new elections under current Constitution.  Media scrutiny.  Public unrest.  International sanctions.  Disease outbreaks. 

 

2. Response Plan – NCBBF & Charter.  Reform GCC, industry, labour, civil service.  Delay next elections.  PR status for ex-citizens.  Civilian deaths to quell public unrest.

Problems – Media scrutiny.  Increased cost of oil, food , medicines.  Natural disasters.  Inflation.  Continued aid sanctions.  Victor Lal & Haryana funds story.  Military budget overspend.

 

3. Response plan – ‘Fix’ Haryana & tax inquiry.  Seek assistance from new donors (China, Korea, India, Singapore, Dubai).  Source loans & other revenue sources.  Deport foreign journalists.  Clampdown on local media.  Clampdown on active resistance to Charter.  Deny delaying next elections.  Delay next elections. 

Problems – Stagflation & economy in freefall.  Haryana donors upset.  Capital flight.  Continued international pressure for election timetable & Constitution.  Ministers bickering.  Media biased.  Charter not accepted by provinces or Chiefs.  Running out of time to ‘fix’ next election.

 

4. Response plan – Continue like nothing’s wrong.  Keep blaming LQ and the media.  Alter electoral boundaries.  Pressure and distract local media to reduce bias. 

 

At this point, two possible scenarios emerge to explain Chodo’s overlying strategy. 

 

Scenario 1 is that he wanted to be PM again, but he realises he has made a hash of it and his plans to revive the economy have failed miserably.  He knows his regime cannot survive a cyclone or outbreak of disease. He will be desperately trying to realise his original vision while simultaneously working on his ‘exit strategy’.  He has his millions squeezed away in Australia and NZ, but he knows that a legally elected govt (not his) will request those assets be frozen and surrendered unto the State.  He would rather reclaim them and abscond.  In this scenario, Chodo is vulnerable to being manipulated.  Because of Chodo’s self-appointed position, the entire country is vulnerable along with him.  

 

In Scenario 1, Chodo is all tactics and no strategy – wallowing in what Sun Tzu called “the noise of defeat”. 

 

Scenario 2 is that the situation is approximately as he intended.  In this case, all that has happened to date serves the purpose of a ‘final strategy’ and, in the final months before new elections, Chodo is, to use a chess analogy, putting the final pieces in to play. 

 

Chodo has an established attraction to Kali, the Hindu goddess of destruction (the necessary stage prior to reincarnation).  He would often pose before her statue for local TV interviews in his private office.  Is it possible that Chodo seeks to invoke total destruction on Fiji, in order to rebuild it ‘in his own image’, according to his own vision? Why would Chodo think that this ‘final solution’ will succeed in the modern world?   Possibly the tenacity of corrupt regimes in Burma, Zimbabwe, Kashmir, and the on-going destruction in Palestine give Chodo hope that he might, just might, get away with it.

 

5. Current problems – Electorate hates the IG.  Victor Lal keeps reporting on the Haryana money.  No support on the proposal for PR for former residents.  Too much scrutiny on electoral procedures.

 

If Scenario 1 is the case, we can predict the following:-

 

5a. Scenario 1 response plan – Continue like nothing’s wrong.  Return to India and get more Haryana sympathy and money.  Transfer money in Australia & NZ to a neutral bank.  Continue to arrange new elections as promised.  Arrange immunity for IG members.  Stand in next elections.  If forbidden to stand, go into exile with Haryana money until it’s possible to stand again or support son’s campaign. 

 

If Scenario 2 is the case, we can predict the following:-

 

5b. Response plan – Continue like nothing’s wrong.  Return to India and get more Haryana sympathy, money and resources.  Change electoral boundaries and procedures in own favour.  If lose in next elections, use Haryana resources to fund outright takeover.  Return to power.  Reform land.  Power to indo-fijians forever, including option for indo-Fijian President.  Repay soft loans.  Open ‘little india’ for business.  Economy back on track.  Sugar No 1 national industry. 

 

So Chodo’s either realised the game is up and is going to try for immunity.  Or after years of meticulous planning, he is going for a ‘final solution’ to totally break Fiji and reshape it to his vision. 

 

Matthew 7:16 says “By their fruits you shall know them.  Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?”  Chodo’s illegal interim regime - for it is truly his junta and not Voreqe’s - has shown, by its fruits, that it is an undemocratic, corrupt, self-interested, shady dictatorship, despite initial claims to promote accountability and root out corruption. 

 

Chodo knows he cannot win an election in Fiji under the current Constitution.  But rather than seeing this as a result of his own actions and divisiveness, he blames it on the Constitution.  He knows he can win if he fixes the result.  But when he loses in the polls, as he surely shall, is he prepared to stage yet another coup, backed by Indian money, guns and possibly even soldiers?  Scenario 2 suggests the answer is ‘yes’. 

 

Looking at Chodo’s path and tactics to date, we may conclude that his final solution is to rule Fiji, no matter what.  He wants his legacy to be Indian rule in Fiji.  This will be obvious to anyone who’s watched him closely for the past decades.  What is surprising though, is the lengths he is prepared to go for it, flying in the face of reason, public opinion, legal legitimacy, human rights, ethical standards and decency. 

 

So which Chodo are we dealing with here?  Scenario 1 Chodo recognises rules and boundaries, even though he knows he cannot win.  Scenario 2 Chodo no longer recognises boundaries to his behaviour and is, I think, the more alarming of the two because the inability to respond to boundaries is a mark of insanity.  Just how desperate is he to reach his target? What isn’t Chodo prepared to sacrifice? 

 

Before the 2006 coup, Fiji’s future was bright, prosperous and bountiful.  We were achieving sustainable economic growth, were attracting investment and even shrugging off the impacts of repeated coup-de-tats.  The entire population, every man, women and child of Fiji, is being deprived of that future by the whims of one man whose motives are thoroughly questionable. 

 

We must do all we can to stop him.  We must show the world our dissent.  We must protest this travesty.  We, the true sons and daughters of this great land, must stop Fiji’s future being sacrificed on the altar of Chodo’s vanity. 

 

Tabu soro

 

God bless Fiji

 

FijiGirl

Jese v Native Gal….the bout so far!!!

May 11, 2008
  • Jese Waqalekaleka Says:
    May 11, 2008 at 1:42 pm   edit

    @ nativegal, I have a few questions for you:

  • I, for one believe that Qarase like any other citizen of Fiji is answerable to the laws of Fiji and if he has ‘committed any crime, then he should do the time.’However, my concern is the way the FICAC is ‘tunneled visioned’ in its investigations into his affairs during his tenure as PM. There is no complaint against Qarase, which has been made public to invite the FICAC to investigate, so it must be presumed that FICAC is using its discretionary powers to instigate these investigations.

    @ nativegal, do you agree with me or not? Please explain?

    If FICAC is using its discretionary powers to investigate, why confine it only to Qarase and not extend it to other living former PM’s like Chaudary, Moemoedonu and Rabuka as well?

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    Chaudary was exposed by Victor Lal for tax evasion and this eventually led to the illegal removals of Russell Hunter and Evan Hannah.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    Illegal AG Khaiyum quickly appointed an Inquiry Team, which included as its Chairman a former Principle of a Law Firm, he worked for in Australia together with a very narrow TOR to return the predetermined findings.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    This Inquiry Team created a world record in being the quickest to conclude an Inquiry and hand in its written Report within the space of less than 2 weeks.

    By the time the Report was made public, the Chairman and another expatriate Member had already left the country and only disgraced Taufa Vakatale remained to face a barrage of questions and claimed that everything was done in accordance with the TOR. Something does not seem correct and I smell a rat.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    As they say, the ‘proof is in the eating’, so if Chaudary truly believed the Inquiry had cleared him of any tax evasion, why hasn’t he pursued his ‘$1b Defamation Claim’ against the FT?

    Do you know why nativegal?

    Simple, he didn’t because he knows fully well that his claim was all hot air and with no substance. He knows full well, that if it went before a competent court, the Report would be thrown out or worse, the Inquiry Members questioned in open court, which would be highly embarrassing to say the least.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    Then what about the saga of Chaudary appointing his own son, Rajendra Chaudary as his Private Secretary soon after being sworn as PM? Does this not reek of nepotism and abuse of power?

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    When then PSC Chairman Sakiasi Waqanivavalagi was questioned, he replied that Rajendra Chaudary was appointed through the normal selection process, when everyone at PSC knew full well that Mahendra Chaudary bamboozled him way in and forced Waqanivavalagi to appoint his son!

    This is the same Chairman that used to be so vocal against Rabuka and the SVT especially when it came to PSC appointments, yet when Mahendra Chaudary got elected into power, one of his 1st appointments was Rajendra Chaudary and Waqanivavalagi was already subdued by Chaudary.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Chaudary should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    Take Moemoedonu, he was cleared of Rape whilst he was Roko Tui Ba and was represented in court but illegal CJ Tony Gates. There has been much speculation on his corrupt dealings as well.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Moemoedonu should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    Then you come to Rabuka. There were rumours when he was in power, that Jim Ah Koy funded or facilitated funding enabling him to purchase properties.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Rabuka should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    Also the SVT giving $20m loan to FHL, which later was changed to a grant.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard to him, do you agree Rabuka should be investigated as well? Please explain?

    As I had started my letter nativegal, I totally agree that if Qarase has ‘committed the crime, then he should do the time’, but to solely focus on him and not other former PM’s and others is clearly political, so its objects are no longer just and honourable.

    Finally nativegal, why narrow the investigations only to former PM’s, why not extend to all former MP’s and former Commanders as well? How about the RFMF Regimental Funds?

    Why not investigate abuse of office of Ganilau whilst Commander, when he sent Military Officers in Military Renault trucks to work on this private farm in Seaqaqa.

    The truck overturned resulting in a few deaths. I believe compensation was paid from Regimental Trust, which correctly should have been Ganilau’s sole responsibility because these deaths were not work related, but attending to his personal whims.

    There are rumours of people coming to Ganilau whilst Commander bringing in monies in brown paper bags.

    My point nativegal, is that if FICAC is to have credibility, then it should apply one standard to all and not only to a select few, because once you go down that slippery road, you lose credibility and respectability.

    @ nativegal, applying the same standard, do you agree with me? Please explain?

  • This was the sorry response from nativegal:

  • nativegal Says:
    May 11, 2008 at 8:55 pm   editSorry tech mtce on this blog took quite a while and number of my articles removed be fair guys… the truth hurts???
    I find the cases incomparable…of course FICAC have assessed:1. Chaudary presumed $mm in personal accounts are personal donations
    intention designed for between MC and so called beneficiaries.

    2.TM case clrd by courts.

    3. Qarase criminal acts whilst in positions of trust /deliberately mislead Fijian people and chiefs siphoning millions from Fijian Trust Fund for Ballu Khan SDL associates, convert $20 m loan into grant, insider trading at FHL
    (as Chairman of NLTB formalise recommendations to Cabiinet, as PM approve ),dereserve prime land eg Natadola without landowner consent..

    And from one who is not a landowner!!!He carefully schemes to commit henious crimes against the Fijian Race and chiefs and church leaders blindly support this LAUAN BANDIT
    this

  • and the come back from Jese:

  • FijiGirl Says:
    May 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm   edit@ Nativegetable. Rapisi! You have some serious issues with the truth… What basis do your accusations have actual fact? None. Your ‘proof’ is mere speculation from a source with questionable motives and an axe to grind. You and your faction are being manipulated by Chodopu$$ but you cannot see it because your eyes are blinded by greed and envy and covetousness. But the people are not blind. Neither are we afraid.
    Tabu soro.
    God bless Fiji
  • Jese Waqalekaleka Says:
    May 11, 2008 at 9:34 pm   edit@ nativegal, as I have said before if Qarase is ‘guilty of the crime, then he is to do the time’, but my question which yo have evaded is why only limit the investigations to him alone and not extend the same standard to other former PM’s?You have not provided a satisfactory explanation to my question.

    Moemoedonu was cleared by the court for the rape charge whilst Chairman of the Yasana ko Ba, which is what I said. The investigations I meant was for the short period of his tenure as PM, like advising Iloilo to dissolve Parliament? Possible abuse of office?

    @ nativegal, do you agree that using the same standards, Moemoedonu too should be investigated? Please explain?

    As for Chaudary, apart from the kangaroo court which cleared his name, how about nepotism in the appointment of Rajendra Chaudary as his own Private Secretary or renovating of his own home with state funds?

    @ nativegal, do you agree that using the same standards, Chaudary too should be investigated? Please explain.

    FYI, as for Qarase ‘not being a landowner’, you disclose your utter lack of knowledge of native affairs and the significance of being a registered member of the VKB.

    As a registered member in the VKB, you are a landowner. Qarase being a registered member of the VKB is a landowner in Mavana, so understand first what you think before revealing your ignorance.

  • by the way, Nativegal is also a bullshit artist. As we have mentioned so many times, we do not delete any comments so save the bullshit about we deleting your responses and answer the questions factually. Not with wild claims as your skin will turn yellow and we will be able to figure you out in public for too much pissing against the wind :-)