Well what else can I say!

The President, Ratu Josefa Iloilo, did not have any powers to appoint Voreqe Bainimarama Prime Minister as his “emergency powers were only within the context of the 1997 Constitution”.

That was the submission of Nye Perram, who is representing Laisenia Qarase and others in their case against Commodore Bainimarama and others in the High Court. Mr Perram said the court needed to determine what the Constitution said about the President’s “executive powers” and whether it was lawfully applied following the events of December 5, 2006.

He said the Constitution upheld values of the rule of law and it was the role of the judiciary to determine what the powers of other branches of Government were. Mr Perram said it was clear the Constitution was the supreme law of the land and it established the hierarchy of laws in the country. He said the High Court had the jurisdiction to determine all constitutional questions brought before it.

He said the Constitution allowed the court to deal with constitutional cases so that the key notion of the rule of law was always guaranteed. “Section 120 subsection 2 of the Constitution states the High Court has original jurisdiction in any matter arising under the Constitution or involving its interpretation.” He said the Office of the President determined its powers from the Constitution. “Therefore, the President is a creature of the Constitution.”

 He said the Constitution stated the executive authority of the State was vested in the President, who was the head of State, commander-in-chief of the Republic of Fiji Military Forces and had powers to establish the office of the Vice-President.

He said the President could only be removed for the inability to perform the functions of the office whether arising from infirmity of body, mind or any other cause like misbehaviour. Mr Perram said in the absence of a President, “the VP performs his functions and in the absence of both the Speaker of the House of Representatives steps in”.

He said Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama’s actions “as a soldier to take control of government on December 5, 2006, could never be lawful”. Mr Perram said no provision in the Constitution allowed Mr Bainimarama to be President when he assumed executive authority in December 2006. “He obviously was not a man helping the country in a crisis but someone justifying his appointments after he sacked people, including the Commissioner of Police and Cabinet ministers,” said Mr Perram. He said the President only acted lawfully on the advice of the Cabinet or the Prime Minister and that he had no powers to exercise on his own.

He said Commodore Bainimarama could never be appointed as PM because he was not a Member of Parliament and that the President had no powers to make that move.

He said the Constitution clearly referred to an elected prime minister and Commodore Bainimarama was not and Mr Qarase was still the Prime Minister as he had not resigned and had not received a pension.

“This government is, therefore, unlawful and non-existent, and came to power using a gun and this court has the powers to give the regime its place.

“None of Qarase’s Cabinet ministers have resigned as the only way to do so is through writing to the President and it is, therefore, clear that these people were deprived leadership through the takeover, and had applied for pension because they did not have a choice and were under duress,” he said.

and then today:

The Interim Prime Minister and Army Commander Frank Bainimarama should come forward and give details on the necessities under which he carried the takeover on December 5th, 2006.

While making submissions for ousted Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase and others against the interim government, QC Nye Perram said that Commodore Bainimarama is the only person who knows everything behind the real reasons for removal of a democratically elected government.

Perram said Laisenia Qarase came forward and was also subject to not so respectful cross examination by QC Gerad McCoy and the Commander should also come forward and give his side of the story.

The QC stressed that Commodore Bainimarama could singularly reveal why December 5th was necessary. He also said that certain contradicting evidence has been put forward on behalf of the Commander and if he were to take the stand it would be a cross examiner’s dream.

Perram said the Commander had explained after the events of 2000 stating what was the necessity of his actions, however, this time around he refuses to come forward.

He said the Commander also saw it fit to the tell the nation the status and stand of the President in an address on December 5th, 2006 but he sends his people to court to argue executive privileges not to reveal certain information.

The SDL Lawyer also said that the defendants submissions of the Great Council of Chiefs recommendations on December 22th, 2006 cannot be accepted. He said the defense failed to note the fact that the GCC recognized that it was ONLY due to the actions of the military that the SDL government had been rendered incapable and ineffective.

Perram said saying the SDL government was dysfunctional cannot be justified as the defendants were the cause of the dysfunction when Qarase was removed from Office and confined against his will on Vanuabalavu.

He said the GCC statement is inept and incapable of providing plausible arguments on the necessity which led to the events of December 2006.

Perrem continues his submissions on the evidence provided in court earlier by Defense that most of the ousted SDL ministers had applied for and are on pensions as former Cabinet ministers and on the evidence that Qarase had asked for foreign intervention on or about December 5th, 2006.

Following that Fiji Human Rights Commission Director Dr. Shaista Shameem, who is acting as an amicus or friend to the court will make submissions. (Get ready for the Comedy; this mad excuse for a woman does not know her limits)

43 Responses to “Well what else can I say!”

  1. iceman Says:

    I sa na yalewa qori sa sega ni madua!!!. Such a disgrace to the legal profession!!Ululala same as Voreqe!!. They should just let her take the witness stand and let LQ’s lawyer grilled her…….hahahahah

  2. Mark Manning Says:

    Shaista She mimi ! what a poor excuse for a human being !

  3. Casio Says:

    Vinaka SV. Good to get a summary of the case every day for those of us who dont read the papers.

  4. Peace Pipe Says:

    This low down bitch is a deplorable excuse for a human trash. Don’t really know whats Shamimi role in the court. She is simply there to help the ig not the court. As if the court dont know what they are doing for her to provide advise. Already her statements are laughable and being ridiculed most of the people. She has been principal to a lot of incredible useless and insane reports.

  5. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Shaista Shameem + Her job = Menopause!

    No disrespect to females in general but this peroxide chairperson of a female is letting her recessive dna overrule her learned judgment!!

    Lets not forget that she wants to see hard evidence before she can think about anything!
    This is another individual that needs to go find another job or life and allow room for a saner person to take the reins and not do things like appear to be heavily sedated with JIHADIST overtones with regards to dealing with the world at large.
    Talk about “DISENFRANCHISED”!!
    Chip on both shoulders you mean!

  6. Mark Manning Says:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=fiji+seeks+military+intervention+december+2006&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&start=10&sa=N

  7. Mark Manning Says:

    The Prime Minister of the day , Mr Qarase , had a duty to protect the Fijian population from a rogue Commander and his treasonous supporters , in December 2006 . It was his duty , to discuss possible Military Assistance from New Zealand or Australia , it was quite within his legal responsibilities as Prime Minister to do so . Under the various arrangements and conventions within the Pacific Nations , Military Intervention could also have been asked for , but it wasn’t , because the Australian Prime Minister , John Howard and his Cabinet , didn’t want to see Australian soldiers fighting Fijian soldiers . The simple fact is , Mr Qarase never asked for nor sort Military Intervention from a foreign country , the man is just not that un-educated to have done so . Whereas the Commander , under threat of investigation of the murders of the CRW soldiers in 2000 by the Police Commissioner Andrew Hughes , was only too happy to break his Military oath and commit treason . The fact that Frank won’t go to court to defend his actions , implies that he knows he is at fault .

  8. Dauvavana Says:

    Mark Manning, you last sentence sums it all up for the Pig.

    btw, that woman Shsyter Shamemimi, everytime she comes on TV, she turns me of sex. Wonder what pushes that bald headed Air Fiji Pilot!!

    Her ugly face on Fiji One news is probably the reason why some men of Fiji get turned off by woman and bat the other way :-)

  9. Mark Manning Says:

    And the question remains , was the Indian Government involved in any illegal activity in regards to providing funds for the overthrow of a legally elected Government in another Sovereign State ?

  10. Tui Says:

    @ Davavana, her face is guaranteed to give you a “soft-on”! Io sa dri yani. Have a good weekend SV and team.

  11. Tebara Says:

    Naita Dauvavana .. au kerea sebera ni laurai mai o Shytmimi na TV mo sai lai sogobutu tu i na rumu .. me kua ni Off nomu Onzzzz … !!

  12. taukei Says:

    Mark Manning Says: “was the Indian Government involved in any illegal activity in regards to providing funds for the overthrow of a legally elected Government in another Sovereign State?”

    TARDWATCH BLOG REVEALS! —- These were the Illegal Prime Minister Mahedra Chaudary’s words to the Indian Government about Fiji and the Indigenous Fijians:

    “The average Indian in Fiji is struggling. Currently we have an administration who is friendly to the Indian populace and will provide them protection. However the indigenous population is very hostile and violence is inevitable. No one can trust the chiefs but to ensure the survival of the Indians, we need all the help
    from you.”

    and he adds,

    “The Fijian is not of the correct frame of mind to run their own affairs. Their immaturity at running a country and business requires a guiding hand in the form of strong leadership such as of the military.”

  13. Tebara Says:

    Well well well … BIGAZZ KAIYUM … Is on the move again …after sucking Piggys balls he was given orders to summon Fiji Times Publisher Evan Hannah to a meeting this arvo concerning an article that is to go to print for tomorrow…. Titled exposing the lies … the illegal parasite regime stated that there were a number of factual inaccuracies. Lamu tiko vei ratou … Damage control tiko vei bigazz ..!

  14. Oskio Says:

    Ah..Taukei. That means he was directly involved in soliciting the support of the indian government to fund him by using the military to overthrow the government. Also, by telling the army leadership that Fijians can only succeed if we have strong leadership by the army.. that’s exactly what the arny ulukau beleievd in and the rest is 2006 coup. Chodo man must be charged for treason and his sons as well. Do not let this go people…

  15. stiremup Says:

    “Under the various arrangements and conventions within the Pacific Nations , Military Intervention could also have been asked for , but it wasn’t , because the Australian Prime Minister , John Howard and his Cabinet , didn’t want to see Australian soldiers fighting Fijian soldiers . The simple fact is , Mr Qarase never asked for nor sort Military Intervention from a foreign country”

    Hey Mark Manning. You have no logic. Jiust because Australia could not provide military assistance does not mean Lie Grassy Arse did not ask for it. After all Downer says he asked for it, Howard says he asked for it and Helen’s spokesman said he asked for it. He sounds like a sad old man wandering around a club asking for it but every one has too much sense to give it to him.

  16. Destiny Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAH .. Stiremup that has to be the POST OF THE DAY.. although i did like this one

    stiremup Says:

    March 14, 2008 at 7:35 am
    Lai by name Lie by nature.

    And you people really think this man is the saviour of Fiji. Get real. You really cannot believe a word that comes from his lips. He asked for military help 3 times from different Australians. He never denied asking the Aus High Commissioner, He denied about having spoken to Alexander Downer. Why would Downer write down having a conversation with “Lie” if it never happened.

    If you think having a man who cannot even tell the truth when he is under oath is a good man to lead this country then I have a very good idea where you can shove one of your burning candles

    see folks its about balance and we are giving you balance and of course FREEDOM OF SPEECH ..

  17. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    Isn’t it amazing that a coward who can stand up at the UN and read [mumble] a prepared speech is afraid to stand in a witness box and answer questions about his criminal activities.

    But this is to be expected from the holder of the 100m dash through the bushes.

    Obviously his lawyer made the decision not to put him in the box after speaking with bananasinpyjamas and noting his mental instability.

    Imagine how bananasinpyjamas would have coped with a few questions like:-

    “Answer yes or no! Have you stopped beating your wife?”

    “Answer yes or no! Have you stopped beating civilians?”

    “Answer yes or no! Have you stopped stealing from the military welfare fund?”

    “Answer yes or no! Have you stopped receiving money from chaudhry the cheat?”

  18. Destiny Says:

    Ex Fiji Tourist (and thank god its EX)
    you have posted this twice and NO ONE has bothered to answer you. Please come up with something articulate and stop wasting space on this blog

  19. Kai Veikau Says:

    Destiny,
    Kakua ni levu tiko nomu i vakamacala..Na cava mada o sa bau cakava me ra vukei kina na kawa i taukei?.Kakua ni mai vakilakila tiko ni levu tu na nomudou labasa wavoki ena cakacaka vaka lawaki ca , butobuto kei na dukadukali dou mai vei tokoni tiko kina qo..Tamata lasulasu o iko!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. aubatinuku-N Says:

    Hey Destiny, since we all have opinions and like the assholes that come with, why don’t you take your very sassy strong opinions and show Shameema Sharia whatever the heck her name is where to shove a candle!!
    How very wierd of you to mock bloggers when you are one yourself!!

    YAY!! Go Bloggers!

  21. Dauvavana Says:

    @ Tebara ni sa taba la mai na TV na Marama, o Dauvavana e vaka sara la ni dau vakarau me vana na dakai ni vanua levu mai Nasonini :-)

  22. IslandBoy Says:

    Bula Everyone - Kerekere, some questions for folks like JdA and the lawyers amongst us.

    1. What is her exact role and what effect on the outcome of the case could Shaista have as Amicus Curae(???)

    2. From watching the proceedings and reading the papers as well as the posts on this site, if the judges rule against the IG and say that what FB did was illegal, what would compel the IG to reverse their position.

    In practical terms, they have ignored legalities before and they still hold all the guns?

    3. If the ruling is in favour of LQ and the SDL, how could we as common people use the ruling to make a difference in the way we are living now?

    I guess I am trying to ask, after the ruling is handed down, then what?

  23. IslandBoy Says:

    Another legal question please. Fiji times reports Angie Hefernan of PCPI writting to the Judicial Services Commision in Melbourne to complain about Justice Scutt accepting an illegal appointment.

    Could a similal letter be sent to wherever Minter Ellison is registered, or are they free to accept any brief? - Vinaka.

  24. ex Fiji Tourist Says:

    bananasinpyjamas would have to be the most gutless, incoherent imbecile on this planet.

    No wonder fiji is traveling backwards at great knots.

    Then of course, he is assisted in his destruction of Fiji by the brainwashed morons who are chained to computers to write rubbish on these blogs.

    Imagine a “”" LEADER ”’ who is so gutless as to refuse to attend a court case.

    Remember chaudhry, the tax cheat, boasting that he would be invited to Australia when there was a change of government in Australia last November?

    So far; no invitation. In fact, the inexperienced Australian foreign minister has suddenly realized that he has an idiot to deal with in bananasinpyjamas and a liar and thief in chaudhry the snake.

  25. toni Says:

    @IB

    After the 2000 coup, Qarase’s interim government waited until their appeal against Gates Nov 15 2000 decision was decided in the court of appeal in March 2001.

    Given the 1 year delay between the filing of legal papers for Qarase’s case and the current hearing, it may take longer than the 4 months for this case to be appealed (whoever gates, pathik and byrne rule against). Chandrika itself was filed in August 2000 and Gates gave his decision in November 15, 13 days after the 2 Nov 2000 hearing.

    Fast forward to 2008:
    1. If the IG lose, they will appeal to a court where Byrne is the President and whose other members are Shameem, Goundar and Scutt. How long it will take the appeal to be heard and decided is anyone’s guess. In 2001, Qarase undertook to abide by whatever decision of the appeal court - and they were sworn in that afternoon as the caretaker government to take Fiji to the Sept 2001 elections.

    2. If the IG lose again in the court of appeal (IF), they can appeal to the Supreme Court - none of those judges have resigned (yet) and they had a session in January 2008. The issue is how long those judges have on their contract or if they are like the court of appeal judges frustrated by A/CJ Gates (again) and they resign before the appeal goes to them. Again dependent on the progress in the court of appeal, when the case finally reaches the supreme court, unclear whether those independent LEGAL judges are still on our supreme court, or Gates may have appointed new supreme court judges by then…

    As for the amicus, their role is to assist the court - because of their role or position, they offer the court assistance in a particular regard eg FHRC would have to issue their assistance on HR issues. Funny that she gave the view that Qarase’s rights were not violated by the events of 5/12… go figure! Originally, FHRC applied to be an interested party and this was rejected by ALL parties (both McCoy and Perram) - that would allow FHRC to file affidavits and call witnesses and to cross examine witnesses called by the other parties… qai sega ni rawa!

    but on Tuesday, a funny thing happened…. McCoy asked that she speak before him on closing submissions because he didn’t know whose side she’d take next and he’d rather know her arguments before he did his closing so he could respond to her. She stood up and told the court she wasnt sure who she would side with in the end! At this point, the whole front bench including Mccoy started laughing AT her!!!! THE COURT HAD TO REMIND HER TO MAKE SUBMISSIONS ONLY ON THE LAW AND NOT TO COMMENT ON THE LITIGANTS (THE PARTIES). tamani poteration!!!!

    Some have speculated that Frank would abrogate the constitution the minute a court ruled against him - who knows, aiyaz may persuade him to wait for an appeal (given what the interim 2001 government did). And that can take as long as Gates and the judicial administration decide - to go to the appeal court, and from there to the only remaining independent court, the supreme court.

  26. IslandBoy Says:

    @toni - vinaka vakalevu kemuni, this is very much appreciated. When you folks with legal training go on about Shaista in here, I had no clue she was such a waste of space.

  27. Dauvavana Says:

    Forgive me for barging in a bit tipsy after a session at the Traps but to partially answer Naita Island boy a bit (I am prepared now to focus on the ugly Shamemimi tonight ’cause I did not get lucky at Traps :-) )

    Anyway, the Human Rights Commission as legislated in its enabling act, has a duty to act as Amicus Curae (in latin it means friend of the courts) on cases that have a fundamental baring on human rights issues in Fiji.

    That is, they can come in to give advise to the judges, but on invitation only from presiding judges. Their advice would strictly be from a Human Rights Law angle on the case.

    The idea is to give an impartial submission on the Human Rights Law issues relevant to the said case and update the court on recent legislations or court judgements and their implications on existing Fiji Laws and what effects they may have on the said case.

    What’s bizarre about this one is the fact that the FHRC had already let their positions known through that silly report they published some months back that concluded Laisenia Qarase’s rights were not violated during the events of 5/12.

    Okay, time to sleep. Probably need a really strong night cap now to get the image of that peroxide old hag’s face off my mind otherwise there is going to be nightmares. Oilei na tevoro……

  28. Tebara Says:

    Rogorogo vinaka nomu vakamacala naita…. !! E veiciciyaki na ligamu delani keyboard … LOL .. sa kena i wali bekaga ya me lai vica mai na tavaya sebera ni o dabe mo vakamacala … LOL ….!!

  29. natewaprince Says:

    Da raica mada na cava e na baci tukuna na mimi salulu dau vei tauvi dogai qo.

    Sabera va dua me bau vala taka na noda dodonu na tamata sa mai mavoa tu qo vei ira na matanitu sona levu qo.

    Ni sa dua noda matanitu vou,matai sara ga ni tamata me fuck off laivi na yalewa mata va sona qo(rookrike).

  30. boka a batina Says:

    @Dauvavana & IB

    Did you watch the replay of last week’s argument on executive privilege? the amicus submissions was all over the place (as well as stupid enough to use from wikipedia left right and center as AUTHORITY and giving those wiki articles to the Judges)

    Nanuma tale o koya ni alternate judge! (beka ratou na oca na judge o gates, na qai soli vei koya me vola na judgment). Matai ni ka e tukuna ni o koya nona i le eratou vakayagataka na matanitu - na justiciability (ni sega ni dua na coup) kei na executive privilege, oti ya qai kaya me vakamuri na lawa ni freedom of information ena constitution. Blardy veileceyaki!

    koya baci kerea tale o Reynolds ena bogi me solia rawa vei ratou o buicabuka na nona written submission ni bera ni vosa ena siga tusiti (macawa mai oqo), me rawa ni rau sauma kei mccoy na veika e baci cauraka mai na wikipedia. Sega ni macala na tucake rawa o mccoy ena macawa mai qo baleta ni turese ena siga lotulevu ka ni maca mena wai, qai vakaotia o kaijaina na nodratu submission. Lewa na tani nona dabe sa qai tucake o reynold me kere adjournment ka ni sa “stretcher out” o mccoy. beka e ‘no salt’ diet tiko qai kania beka dua na ika mai na holiday inn! ;-)

  31. taukei Says:

    Re: Bananarama-ChodChoda/Chodu “Government”

    Mahendra Pal Scum Chaudhry is not a “Chaudhry” and not from Haryana.

    He is a scumbag “Girmitya” (low caste descendant of Indian laborers without any present roots in India) like Pramesh Chand.

    Mahendra Pal Scum Chaudhry’s father’s first name (not surname) was “Chaudhry”. His surname was, I believe, Prasad.

  32. taukei Says:

    Bananarama-Chod “government” must be nipped in the bud immediately….

    Mahendra Pal Scum Chaudhry is not a “Chaudhry” and not from Haryana.

    He is a scumbag “Girmitya” (descendant of low caste Indian laborers) like Pramesh Chand. Mahendra Pal Scum Chaudhry’s father’s first name (not surname) was “Chaudhry”. His surname was Prasad.

    “The great mass of people … will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.” — Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. Mein Kampf, vol. 1, ch. 10 (1925).

    The BIG LIE of the Bananarama-Chod/Choda/Chodu “Government” is:
    BUILDING A BETTER FIJI!

  33. boka a batina Says:

    What a joy to watch Perram in action! a very smart lawyer, well worth his fee and more and an inspiration. No wonder he is a QC after 12 years at the Bar!

    His closing last night on tv1 was beauuuuuuudiful!

    Eda sega ni oca na saravi koya. Qai maleka na bomu e vakacabotetaka e matai McCoy kei Reynold, kuri ni mosi ni uludrau ena mua ni macawa balavu oqo! Sivia na vosa nei McCoy ena macawa sa oti, e via vakalialia na lawa, e kaya ni ratou na sega ni vakayagataka na necessity kei na acquiescence… nabogi sa kaya o Perram me soli kece na vakaro e kerea ko Qarase, ka ni sega nodratou vakadinadina na matanitu, qai sa kaya ko McCoy ni ratou sa vakararavi ga ena justiciability! heheheh ROFTLMAO!

    YOU THE MAN PERRAM!

  34. taukei Says:

    That ‘gaandu’ (passive sodomite) butt-hole BANANAS-RAMMING-MAMAS and that BAINI-CHOD (’bainimarama-fu**er’ ;) are a disgrace to our nation and to the intelligence of the Fijian (Taukei) community.

    These two butt-holes—bananas-ramming-mamas and baini-chod—whose collective IQs are less than Forrest Gump’s—must be nipped in the bud—IMMEDIATELY!!!.

    TAUKEI POWER!!!!!!!

  35. taukei Says:

    ABOLISH THE FIJI ARMY:

    For twenty years, Fiji and its political institutions have been suffering from a disease. This cancer—military involvement in political affairs and frequent military coups— is silently eating away on the body of this nation. The patient is dying a slow but sure death.

    The death will surely come unless we, the people of Fiji, follow Costa Rica’s lead and abolish the army. The choice is ours, so can be the future.

  36. Mark Manning Says:

    stiremup
    enquiring about options of Military intervention of another sovereign nation , is not unreasonable under the circumstances at the time , given the Commanders history and his implication in the murder of CRW soldiers in 2000 , let alone his unstable mental state . But it’s still not the same asking for assistance , which Mr Qarase has stated he asked for . If Mr Howard , Helen Clarke and Mr Downer interpret assistance and intervention as the same , then they are clearly mistaken .
    Intervention : -http://www.thefreedictionary.com/military+intervention
    Assistance : -http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assistance
    Now stiremup , can you provide us with your sites which state that Mr Qarase asked for Military Intervention ? I’l bet you can’t ! And I don’t mean the sites where others have interpreted Mr Qarase’s request as one of intervention . You’ll only find that Mr Qarase asked for Assistance . There is a vast difference between the two requests . By the way , I thought he was the Prime Minister at the time anyway and was obligated to protect the Citizens of Fiji from this rogue Commander . I’m surprised even more though , as I thought he was sacked as Commander before he returned from the Middle East anyway ! If that was the case , where does he get his authority as Commander and why do the soldiers follow him ?

  37. Jean d’Ark Says:

    Boka a batina – trues-up!

    I am surprised there are not more people commenting on that here today – maybe they are, but just over on Fiji Exiles. Anyway, I thought Perram was awesome. His knowledge of case law was absolutely encyclopedic, and his steel-trap mind was able to keep so many levels and avenues of his submission at his fingertips with only the barest glance at his rostrum notes.

    And the way he marched relentlessly through every conceivable permutation of the case issues, blocking up any possible legal avenue plea that the defense might conceivably invoke as he went, was just breathtaking. I thought I sensed that even Gates’ legal sensibilities and instincts were excited by Perram’s virtuoso performance. As far as my limited knowledge of Constitutional law is concerned, there are simply no legal “escape” hatches left now for the defense. All they have left is the hope of hanging the case on some technicality, or else they will introduce some brand-new, non-Prasad legal precedent of necessity that no one in the world has ever considered or used before (or just appeal the case all the way to the Supreme court to give the NCBBF/Incoming Government a chance render all these issues moot).

    If the green goons had enough intelligence to keep up with the implications of Perram’s arguments, they would be absolutely thunderstruck by now as they will know that, legally-speaking, they are now trussed up tighter than a Christmas turkey! No doubt they will meet with Aziz and their legal team soon for a briefing on that. So get ready for a new spate of threats and renditions to make up for what they lack in legal and moral case merits. Looks like it’s already happening from the look of the Piggate post!

  38. Adi Kaila Says:

    The difference between these lawyers is that mccoy is pedantic & racist - enunciating his words as he does he is belittling Qarase & the rest of the Nation as he thinks because we are black people we are dumb.

    Well that notion went out a long time ago.

    This pompous fool is only making a fool of himself. What a show pony.

    Showing his breed as only a person who is a peasant from where he comes from will do.

    Defending the biggest lamu sona in the world who can’t face up in court.

    piggy dau levu la nona vosa - ALL TALK NO ACTION!

  39. Mark Manning Says:

    This comment has a wealth of information , copy it and split up into groups and re-search each topic and bring all the relevant information together .
    You then should be precise in regards to the sites you have used to gather your information , and post them like crazy to all your friends in and out of Fiji and to all the blog sites . But share the work load and it won’t take so long .
    =================================================http://www.fiji.gov.fj/publish/page_8067.shtml
    just key into google search ” Fiji Government doctrine of necessity “.
    =================================================
    Get ready for all the bullshit to fly in from Frank’s quarters when Court resumes , but read up on this 1st .
    =================================================Frank originally , at the beginning of this coup , made a comparison of his actions on the 5th. of December 2006 , to the sacking of the Whitlam Government on the 11th. of November 1975 ( remembrance day )(when all fallen soldiers in fields of battle are remembered for their ultimate sacrifice )( life ! ) by Sir John Kerr , the then Governor General .
    Gough Whitlam was the then Prime Minister .
    Apparently Mr Whitlam was going to table in Parliament that same day , that the CIA were running Pine Gap . Pine Gap was and still does , collect data , private and non private , for the American Government . It basically was and still is part of a spy network run by the USA Government .
    Mr Whitlam wanted to shut Pine Gap down !
    Please read the google page on ” the CIA and the sacking of the Whitlam Government ” .
    =================================================
    Mr Whitlam and his Government were sacked because the GG , in private conversation with Sir Garfield Barwick , a High Court Judge , and cousin of the GG , decided that a personal opinion of Sir Garfield Barwick , was legal advice ! Which it wasn’t , it was simply a private conversation between two relatives , the GG however , had no authority nor right , in his capacity as GG to seek opinion from anyone in the Judiciary on matters of Government . In fact , it was illegal for him in his capacity as GG to do so !
    He did so , despite advise to the contrary from the PM .
    From that conversation , the GG decided to sack the Government because the opposition ( headed by Malcolm Fraser ) had with-held the supply bill in the Lower House ! This meant that there was ” soon going to be ” no budget for the Government , for the time being . The Constitutional crisis was only in the mind of the GG .
    The GG decided from a private conversation ( not legal advice ) with a High Court Judge , that there was a Constitutional crisis !
    Now , the points are these : -

    1/ the PM , from whom the GG is directly answerable and from whom he must take advice , advised the GG that he should not talk to anyone in the Judiciary regarding the blocking of supply in the Lower House of Parliament or any other Government matters because of the ” separation of powers ” !
    He was told that he ” takes and must follow ” advise from the PM .
    This was not Mr Whitlam’s personal view , it was Constitutional Law .
    Mr.Whitlam was a Queens Council and Rhodes Scholar before entering Politics . Mr Whitlam ( like Mr Qarase ) knew the Law .
    But Sir John Kerr , whom Mr. Whitlam had actually appointed to Governor General in the 1st. place , ignored the PM’s advise and spoke to his cousin .
    On private matters , this was okay , but on matters of Government , this was improper , inappropriate and illegal because of the separation of powers .

    2/The blocking of the supply bill put the Government in the position of running out of funds to pay Civil Servants . However , despite attempts by the opposition , headed by Malcolm Fraser , to bring the Government to it’s knees , Mr Whitlam decided to outsource financing from the Middle Eastern Arab Nations ( known then as petro dollars ) as they had plenty of cash available at a cheap interest rate at that time . It was all legal and within the PM’s jurisdiction to have his Government do this . The Government had not yet run out of money and there was no crisis .

    3/ There was no Constitutional crisis .

    4/ There was no doctrine of necessity as Frank put it !
    It simply didn’t exist and didn’t apply to this situation , just as it didn’t exist in Fiji’s situation in December 2006 !.

    5/ The GG took matters into his own hands , was egotistical and misguided
    ( remind you of anyone ? ) , and had probably been drinking too much , and so decided , from a private conversation of Government matters he had with a member of the Judiciary , that he alone should take matters into his own hands and sack the Government , which he did .

    6/ On Pine Gap , corporate secrets , inventions , business proposals , anything of value to the USA was and is still spied on by the American Government , through Pine Gap . The Australian Government allows the American Agency to filter all corporate secrets , private inventions etc. before even allowing the Australian Government to look at it 1st . Now since when does a Government Agency run the Government of two countries ?
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    Now , your mission , should you decide to accept it , is to download all the of the following and look up in google search , all you can on the these matters . Because next week , when court resumes , Frank and his Lawyers , will try and fool you all . But if you take the time to look into these matters this weekend , you will already be informed .
    So here is a list of what to look at , plus your own ideas ! I’m just trying to guide you all and make it easier and less time consuming , perhaps you could involve your Children as it’s their future at stake .
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    Queens Council , Rhodes Scholar , Rhodes College ( England ) , Gough Whitlam , The Dismissal , Sir John Kerr , Malcolm Fraser , the CIA and the sacking of the Whitlam Government , Pine Gap , ( the separation of powers , Fiji and Australian Governments ) , ( the doctrine of necessity , Fiji and Australian Governments ) , the High Court of Australia , Middle Eastern loans of the Whitlam Government , petro dollars , the loans affair , Sir Garfield Barwick , the Cuban missile crisis , the bay of pigs and the CIA , Robert Kennedy and the American Mafia , J Edgar Hoover , The assassination of J F K and possible CIA involvement .
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    It’s crucial that you know these things if you wan to follow the court case in Fiji . Frank and his poor advisers and confidence tricksters ( con men ) will try and fool you all . But they are poor liars . =================================================
    I’m wondering if Peter Foster will be one of Frankinstein’s advisers !

  40. Mark Manning Says:

    Frankenstein was hiding behind section 109 (1) of the Fiji Constitution , trouble is , he appointed himself President , which he can’t do as the GCC is the only Authority to do that .
    Does this foolish excuse for a Commander understand the separation of powers in the Westminster system of Government which Fiji has ?
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    Section 109 Dismissal of Prime Minister

    (1) The President may not dismiss a Prime Minister unless the Government fails to get or loses the confidence of the House of Representatives and the Prime Minister does not resign or get a dissolution of the Parliament.
    (2) If the President dismisses a Prime Minister, the President may, acting in his or her own judgement, appoint a person as a caretaker Prime Minister to advise a dissolution of the Parliament.
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    http://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/fj00000_.html
    The Fiji Constitution :

  41. Danny Boy Says:

    My advise to I -Arse is to never send a boy to send a men’s job. They were deceived into thinking that it was an open & close case. The question here is will Pryde (SG) or I-Arse’s head be on the chopping block if they they lose the case…

  42. ramusu Says:

    mark manning sonalevu, sivia nomu vesumona, dont be talking about our president when you dont know shit. he is my chief. and if you dont like it go ask him for a ride in his new hummer. you boci

  43. Mark Manning Says:

    Ramusu
    I don’t know your President . I know he is an elderly man and from what some people are saying , he may be losing his mental ability . There’s no disrespect meant by that observation and I’m sure most think it out of concern and respect for an elderly man , as well as a man in that position . But the bottom line is , if he is ill , then Frankestein is using his illness to the IG’s advantage , and that is the most disrespectful thing anyone can do of a man in that situation ! If the President is not ill , then one would be within their rights to question , is he part of the coup and if the answer is yes , then has he committed treason ? It’s something which should be considered if there’s not to be a repeat . Those responsible for treason , must be brought before the Courts . No matter their Earthly title . No man is above the Law . I personally don’t have an opinion either way . So I’m sorry if your offended , but the questions still needs to be asked , as unpleasant as it is to do so .

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