We are all looking forward to elections next year as the way back to a
normal life in Fiji. At the Forum in Tonga Frank gave a clear undertaking
in front of all Pacific Island leaders that elections would be held in
March 2009.
Some of us found this hard to believe, but he did say it. However, the
words had hardly left his mouth when he started talking about the Charter
as a step to be taken before the elections.
In particular, he caused all sorts of confusion when he started throwing
around the idea of abolishing racial electorates. We all know that getting
rid of racial rolls requires a change to the constitution, so it is
hard to know what Napoleon is driving at with this suggestion. Puzzled by
this, we contacted someone whoknows a lot about the ins and outs of voting
systems and asked for her view on possible changes to the system. She
teaches Government in a major university and has followed the intricacies
of Fiji and Pacific constitutions for a number of years. This is what my
learned friend sent me.
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“Common Roll for Fiji
Under all three constitutions, Fiji’s electoral system has been complex
and difficult for outsiders to understand. It is a credit to Fiji’s
education system that voters have coped with these complexities and the
level of formal voting has been generally high by world standards.
The 1997 Constitution replaced voting on purely communal lines with a
mixture of communal and open voting, doubly complicated by the
introduction of the ‘preferential’ or ‘alternative vote’ system. Fiji’s
retention^of communal voting is quite an anachronism in the 21st century.
For this reason it has considerable academic curiosity value.
If a common roll were to be introduced for all 71 seats in the lower
nouse, what would be the result?
First, it would depend on the electoral system. Would it be based on
single member constituencies or multi-member constituencies? The latter is
generally preferred by academic experts, as opposed to
practicing politicians, because it produces ‘proportional representation’,
meaning that all parties get a chance at gaining representation in
accordance with the size of their vote. Single-member constituencies, a
hangover from British colonial occupation, might produce clear majorities
but nearly always do so at the cost of under-representing minority groups.
Single member constituencies
If single-member constituencies are chosen, the Constituency Boundary
Commission would again face the potentially controversial task of trying
to devise boundaries that have a rational basis while also ‘ignoring’ the
well known communal voting patterns.
This has always proved challenging, particularly when there are both
communal and open electorates to fit into the landscape.
Already some of the Open Seats are artificial. Lomaivuna is joined with
Namosi and Kadavu, rather than, say, adjoining Naitasiri. Presumably, this
is the legacy of attempts to keep constituencies roughly the same size.
However, it has the effect of creating a constituency with an artificially
large ethnic Fijian majority. A constituency like this ‘disadvantages’ the
major ethnic Fijian political party, as it means that the ethnic balance
in other electorates is tilted more towards Indo-Fijians than it would
otherwise be. An example such as this suggests that the Constituency
Boundary Commission under previous governments did not attempt to bias the
system towards ethnic Fijians.
Common roll
If all seats are based on Common Roll, there would be less need to resort
to geographically separated areas as Lomaivuna and Kadavu. So, in this
respect at least, the task for the Constituency Boundary Commission would
be easier.
Given that the Indo-Fijian population is concentrated heavily in three
regions, it would be difficult to avoid the concentration of Indo-Fijians
in a few electorates, with the potential to deliver huge majorities for
Indo-Fijian parties in each seat. As a consequence of this, however, the
number of seats won by ethnic Fijian dominated parties would be
artificially higher. Any kind of rigging of boundaries in favor of
Indo-Fijians, would have to be something conspicuously artificial to
succeed.
Based on population as confirmed in the 2007 Census, Central Division
would have 29 Common Roll constituencies, rather than the 9 Open
constituencies at present. With so many units to play with it would be
easier to fit them into natural geographic units.
Given that ethnic Fijians now constitute 62 percent of the population of
Central Division, while Indo-Fijians have fallen to less than half this,
at 30.1 percent, 29 single member constituencies based on Common Roll
could potentially deliver a huge majority to any ethnic Fijian dominated
Party.
On the other hand, the now much more equal numbers of ethnic Fijians and
Indo-Fijians in the Western Division mean that, even with single member
constituencies, the probability of an even balance of seats is greater.
Eight seats in the urban areas of Lautoka, Nadi and Ba would all be very
safe seats for an Indo-Fijian based party, but many of the other seats in
rural areas in the Western Division would have ethnic Fijian majorities.
Because of the potential distortions of single-member constituencies many
academic observers favor proportional representation via multi-member
constituencies. This avoids the distortion resulting when a 51 percent
majority in several single-member seats could deliver all of those seats
to one party, with no representation for the parties making up the other
49 percent. The National Federation Party has long been under-represented
in Fiji because of this factor peculiar to single-member constituencies.
In 2006, the NFP picked up 14 percent of the vote in Indo-Fijian Communal
Constituencies, but did not win a single seat. In 1999, they had 32
percent of the vote without a seat.
With multi-member constituencies it is possible to achieve proportional
representation because parties can share the seats, even if they fall
short of 51 percent of the vote. The downside of this is the risk of
political instability resulting from the lack a clear majority for any one
party. However, if one party can’t get a clear majority, it is forced to
consider the option of cooperating with other parties, which could be good
thing in light of the multiparty cabinet provisions in the 1997
Constitution.
Proportional representation could therefore potentially divide the 71
seats in Fiji’s Parliament into four administrative divisions as follows:
Central Division 29
Eastern Division 4
Western Division 27
Northern Division 11
If race remains a dominant factor influencing the way people vote, the
first and most dramatic impact of a proportional system based on common
roll would be to wipe out representation from any party not based on the
two major communities. The 5720 Rotumans in the Central Division, for
example, would never muster enough votes on their own to elect a Rotuman
member. In Eastern Division, the 2000 Rotumans on their home island would
be far out-numbered by the 35,000 ethnic Fijians.
The General Electors, Chinese, Europeans and people of mixed race would
have to throw all of their combined weight behind one or two candidates to
have any chance of one of their number being elected
on the basis of communal support. Their best prospect would be the Central
division where they are concentrated and form 5.5 percent of the
population, mostly in Suva.
Under the 1997 Constitution they have 6.5 percent of Communal seats.
Compared with their 3.7 percent share of population, this is significant
over-representation. In short,people from the small minority communities
would find it hard to gain election, except through membership of parties
dominated by the two major races, where they probably have limited
influence.
Under the proposed common roll system there would be an in-built bias in
favour of the majority community. For example, based on the 2007 Census,
if their share of seats was proportional to their share of the population,
any ethnic Fijian party would dominate the Parliament, with 41 out of 71
seats. On the same basis, an Indo-Fijian party could probably get only
about 27 seats, which would be proportional to their share of the
population.
For the Indo-Fijian Community, which currently has 19 guaranteed communal
representatives, plus a significant share of those elected in Open
electorates, common roll may be seen as a backward step. Given current
birth rates, even without the effects of migration, the Indo-Fijian share
of the population will continue to fall and, under common roll,
Indo-Fijians would face the prospect of falling representation, unless
ethnic Fijians vote for parties they perceive to be Indo-Fijian dominated.
Under the current constitution Indo-Fijians will always have 19
representatives, a share of communal representation out of proportion to
their share of the population, but not as disproportionate as the General
Electors share. It is General Electors, Rotumans and Indo-Fijians whose
interests appear to be protected by the communal voting established under
the 1997 Constitution.
It is worth bearing in mind that the last change in the electoral system
followed a detailed process of inquiry, with submissions from all
interested parties. There is clearly no time for this process to be
repeated and still adhere to the announced election time frame.”
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Hmm, I think the professor has given us something to think about there.
The big question it raises is: why is the Interim Government talking about
changing the electoral system? This is the mystery. They know it is not
possible without changing the constitution via a two thirds majority of
Parliament. They know it will not end the pattern of racial voting. They
know it will probably wipe out representation from the minority
communities.
I can only think of two reasons. It could be they have some plot to throw
up all the difficulties of changing the system so that everyone thinks
let’s have lot’of inquiries before we have an election. The result of this
would be the illegal government continues governing, hoping everyone gets
used to them and they can win enough friends by using the power of
government to look after any group or interest that offers themselves for
sale (Meanwhile the country goes down the drain.)
The only other possible reason for going down this track is pure
stupidity. They haven’t thought things through. Or maybe, like everything
with this government it’s a combination of the two. One of the two heads
of the Bainimahendra monster has a cunning plan, the other just finds his
mouth moving and hears sounds, with little understanding of the plot in
progress.
NAVOSAVAKADUA
February 1, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Absolutely Correct Navosavakadua!
Nothing this ig has actioned – right from the beginning 6.12.06 has been thought over at all. As we’ve come to expect, the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing except when it is unscrupulously dipping into the Nations diminishing coffers for personal aggrandizement (the mata ni ta boka syndrome).
vore & chodo are both ignoramuses who because of their own personal baggage re murder, blatant theft, sheer malevolence, with the assistance of the so called army & over ambitious lawyers who want the top jobs without going through the correct processes, executed a coup without an iota of a long term plan or the implications of their illegal act. They thought that the Nation would accept this coup like they did previous ones – how wrong!
It’s fine to criticise the SDL government – it’s normal to criticise which ever party is leading the country – BUT they did not give the SDL Government enough time to even begin what they set out to do legally & that is to try to set things right. After the Mara, Rabuka coup led times – the SDL was in the process of assuring the People of Fiji that it would be alright to be led by commoners without a HIGH CHIEF manipulating in the background.
Our culture of ‘vaka rokoroko’ will always be with us no matter where we live in this world – it is inherent. The majority of the population were aware that there was more than met the eye when rabuka executed those coups – everyone knew that Ratu Mara & Ratu Penaia Ganilau were in full reign in the background. It is because of this inherent trait of ‘vaka rokoroko’ for these two chiefs that not much was said. Now that they are both dead we are all being more vocal, because it would’ve been too disrespectful to say anything negative about Ratu Mara or Ratu Penaia Ganilau especially as both their families were fed by all of us, from the hard work in our villages we supplied their households with food, mats, tabuas – you name it – while we had to manage without.
Laisenia Qarase & his SDL party knew only too well that because they were commoners they would have a rough time convincing the Nation that they could lead & govern successfully, despite their personal academic achievements & qualifications & winning the elections legally. We all have to understand that whether the Prime Minister we vote to lead is a commoner from Vunidawa or Vunidilo we have to respect that person & the governing party.
They, the SDL also knew of the the wrongs mahendra chaudary the manipusi & voreqe bainimarama the imbecile had done & were setting the process to bring them forward to answer to the Law. The SDL was trying to undo so much in the little time they had – & they were preparing to do this legally to rid the rogues from positions of power so FIJI could move on away from the distasteful past.
As we now know – the ig has taken Fiji backwards – so far backwards it will take more than a miracle to get back to the prosperity that was just beginning.
Then in comes that bloody IGnorant fool akuila yabaki – who the friggin’ hell is he anyway & accuses the SDL & NFP of trying to derail the proposed People’s Charter for Change, Peace and Progress – “HELLO” if you want a democratic government you must expect opposition dear – it’s not a one way street. But with the proposed People’s Charter for Change, Peace and Progress it will certainly be a ONE WAY STREET that benefits only the ig & the progress will be all the way down SHIT CREEK.
February 1, 2008 at 3:50 pm
let laugh about the stupidity of they ig they think they win never they will sit on ashes led by akuila yabaki backslide.
February 1, 2008 at 7:14 pm
So far our 10 heroes are holding their grounds and have not accepted the positions in the NCBBF (National Council of Bocis and Blerry Fuckanasses). Lets pray it remains that way. I think the NCBBF are beginning to feel insignificant for lack of majority support. John Samy has opened up further and revealed more of those involved in this farter charter mostly Indians of the likes of Uni of Fij VC and another USP academic. He even approached Rt Madraiwiwi who turned the offer down. Rt Jone Madraiwiwi is straight forward when it comes to law and this body is as illegal as it comes.
Two other idiots also wanted to make the headlines by uttering some absolute nonsense in the media and these are FCOSS and CCF directors talking from their blow holes of some sheer garbage.
And to add to the circus is the top shit man Vore himself who again declared that only God will decide when elections will be held and not us the citizens of Fiji. Didn’t God give man free will and at most times let man dictate their destiny. The amount of crap gushing out of this idiotic despot’s mouth can easily fill Kinoya sewage in no time at all. Let us call him bluff and see if he can face those he promised to deliver elections in 2009. Even so if he can be eliminated sooner the better. The way he is insisting on the charter is becoming obvious that it is passport to freedom of prosecution. He is now like a wild animal being cornered and trying to fight back and getting scared and irrational as the time nears for elections and then judgement for the coup clux clan.
February 1, 2008 at 7:31 pm
As I scrutinise the words of this con man John Sami he is as much a liar as his partners in crime. He said he did some work in Spain for a handsome fee. Of all the places why did he choose Spain. First of all he cannot speak a word of Spanish and what sort of work would he be doing there. He said Spain because it would be difficult for us to verify this due to language barrier. And why is he getting paid handsomely here if he had Fiji at heart.
February 1, 2008 at 8:06 pm
When the teachers of society portray the risk/price for economical development;our culture ,customs and values was part of the package.
The SUKUNA/MARA/GANILAU era was a vehicle that carried Fiji from the 20th to the 21st.
Forty or so years ago; a lively topic of discussion in our home was the question ,Is Fiji ready for a change after the FAB FOUR.(CAKOBAU.G/CAKOBAU.E/MARA/GANILAU).
When RABUKA and Chaudhary became PM,it was asked whether they should be accorded ceremonies that we do to chiefs?
When we handed over our biggest tabua,largest and or best mats,fish,and uvi,we did so because we respected their position and their abilities.
To my mind ;there was nothing wrong with this gesture.
We loved to have our pictures taken with them and hung it on the wall in our homes to remind us of that chapter in our lives.
When we erase the Vaka Rokoroko my dear ADI KAILA we will not only lose our treasure ,but gain Chaudhary to BAINIMARAMA whatever else is left of our identity.
February 1, 2008 at 9:27 pm
just thought id let u guys know that an account has been set up by government to accept monetary donation to help those affected by the cyclone..tu na da….
February 1, 2008 at 10:31 pm
drifter
you mean to line chaudry’s pockets yet again.
I’ll be giving my donation to the Red Cross
February 1, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Well said Adi Kaila, so true about Mara & Gaunilau, hung around too long because they couldn’t give up the power, the mats, tabuas, uvi etc etc.
I feel now people like Ratu Joni and Graham Leung should be speaking out a lot more. Also Di Teimumu and the other chiefs. Speak out as their voices will be heard. What the hell are they scared of.
When you think about it why did Ratu Joni and Graham Leung only spoke out when they were overseas. Why not do in Fiji?
Man I hate to think how much longer this is going to go on for?
February 1, 2008 at 11:55 pm
In response to ex-tourist, we have to be careful with Chaudhry – its nearly two years and yet he has not answered VICTOR LAL questions which our champion had put to the crook on 10 August 2006:
Thursday, August 10, 2006
Where are Cyclone Ami Funds?
‘Everyman and his dog’, Mahendra Pal Chaudhry acidly told Radio Australia lately, ‘knows who is the leader of the Fiji Labour Party in Fiji’. But hardly anybody knows how much money was allegedly collected by him as general secretary of the National Farmers Union nearly three years ago, and distributed to the 2003 Cyclone Ami victims.To date, neither Mr Chaudhry nor the NFU have provided any financial report of the money collected.The funds were allegedly collected worldwide and reportedly deposited in the Bank of Baroda in Fiji. We were told to send our donations to the following person: Secretary, Mr Mahendra P Chaudhry, National Farmers Union. Account: Cyclone Relief Fund. Account No: 155728. Bank: Bank of Baroda, Suva, Fiji Islands. Surprisingly, only recently the FLP parliamentarian for Macuata East/Cakaudrove Indian Communal, Vijay Chand, claimed in Parliament that people in his constituency in Macuata still have not received hurricane relief rations after the devastating Cyclone Ami. He said people were still awaiting materials for hurricane relief houses, which had been promised to them but not delivered. Who promised them – the Government, the NFU, or other non-governmental organisations? Several individuals and organisations emerged during and immediately after the cyclone to launch an international money-raising campaign for the victims, especially on behalf of the Indo-Fijian cyclone victims. Three organisations, the International Congress of Fiji Indians (ICFI), the Mahendra Pal Chaudhry-led National Farmers Union (NFU) and GOPIO, the US-based Global Organisation of People of Indian Origin, were the most prominent in the collection of funds.The ICFI launched a campaign in Sydney, spearheaded by Dr Karam Singh, president of the Australian branch, and Dr Umanand Prasad. In New York, the legendry Indian Bollywood actor Dev Anand kicked-started the GOPIO Cyclone Ami Relief Fund, calling on donors to send their tax-deductible contribution to one Dr Sushila Gidwani of New York.GOPIO estimated that there had been over $50 million in damage along with deaths and destruction. Fiji golfing hero Vijay Singh had extended his support in the GOPIO efforts to raise funds. GOPIO had designated president-elect Inder Singh to be the coordinator for Fiji Cyclone Relief Fund. It organised a fund-raiser in New York in the presence of Dev Anand, a life member of GOPIO, at The Tandoori Restaurant in Rego Park, Queens. Launching the New York appeal GOPIO, of which I was a founding member in the 1980s, assured us that “GOPIO will take advice from former Fiji Prime Minister Mahendra Chaudhry who has been actively involved in the relief and rehabilitation efforts in the affected areas” on the distribution of food and funds.The NFU, in a report posted on the efijian.com website, called upon us to respond generously, pointing out that most of the victims were Indo-Fijian cane farmers. Since they were already on the receiving end of the Government’s racist land eviction policy, they could not be expected to rely upon the Fijian state for any assistance or sympathy. Any assistance that we could provide would, therefore, be really appreciated. A senior member and former Cabinet minister of the FLP has claimed that when Cyclone Ami struck, Mr Chaudhry was abroad. It fell on this particular parliamentarian to contact the FLP office in Suva. A female former Indo-Fijian journalist member of the FLP office staff allegedly provided him, curiously, with the NFU instead of the FLP account number listed above and the designated bank.The parliamentarian, allegedly with Mr Chaudhry’s approval, than circulated the details to the potential donors via the efijian.com website. And it was to this bank that many of us from around the world wholeheartedly responded, in the hope that the money would reach the victims. To date, we are not sure if the money reached the intended victims for neither Mr Chaudhry nor the NFU have provided us with a detailed balance sheet.Let me make it clear at the outset. None of this should be read as accusing Mr Chaudhry or the NFU of serious fraud but in the absence of any detailed report in the last three years, we have every right to enquire whether the thousands of dollars reportedly collected from around the world reached the intended cyclone victims. But one may ask, why raise the issue now, nearly three years later? It is a fair question. It only occurred to me now after I recently read Mr Chaudhry demanding an immediate audit investigation into the funding for the 2003 South Pacific Games held in Suva, the same year that the Cyclone Ami had struck.“It is three years now since the Games were held, yet a financial report on the SPG accounts has still not been presented to Parliament by FASANOC and the Ministry of Sports,” said Mr Chaudhry. In a statement he said his party had been informed that a sum of $18 million was spent on the Games, of which the Government made a substantial contribution of some $7 million. Mr Chaudhry said taxpayers had a right to know how this money was used and why an audited report of the finances had not been submitted. Mr Chaudhry asked what was the cause of the delay. “Is it true that efforts to get detailed accounts are being thwarted by certain persons in the Government and FASANOC as well as some private contractors?” said Mr Chaudhry.“Taxpayers are entitled to an immediate explanation on why it is taking the games committee so long to file a financial report. Any organisation which benefits from public funds must account for every cent.” However, organisers have refuted Mr Chauhdry’s allegations. FASANOC president, Vidya Lakhan, said it appeared that the information given to the FLP was not as reliable as claimed. The Fiji Government did not provide $7 million but $1.9 million. Similarly, we demand to know whether Mr Chaudhry is aware that money was collected and deposited for the victims in an NFU bank account in the Bank of Baroda. If so, to date, why have we not been provided with a balance sheet, like the one he is demanding from FASANOC? What is the truth about Cyclone Ami relief? The ICFI recently sent me a detailed account of how much they had collected and distributed to the Cyclone Ami victims. The Congress provided F$300 cash each to ninety-four families to rebuild their homes and provided food parcels to 250 families immediately after the cyclone, it says.Six members of the Governing Council of ICFI visited Fiji at their own expense and provided assistance. It must be pointed out that ICFI’s contribution was independent of Mr Chaudhry and his NFU. Mr Chaudhry, on the other hand, is yet to reply to my queries, which I sent to him nearly two months ago. Nor has he, as general secretary of the NFU, provided us with any detailed public statement on the Cyclone Ami funds. To refresh our memory, to date, Mr Chaudhry has not responded to some of the questions that I raised: When did Mr Chaudhry learn of the funds collected for him in his ancestral homeland?What did he do to encourage or stop the collection of funds? Why has the Indo-Fiji Friendship Society (IFFS) issued denials and clarifications now and not Mr Chaudhry or the FLP? Was Mr Chaudhry patron-in-chief of the IFFS, as claimed by its secretary Sher Singh Badshami?The collection of massive amounts of funds from overseas Indo-Fijians has become a routine affair over the years whenever a natural calamity or political upheaval has fallen upon the Indo-Fijian community, with no reciprocal accountability in the process. And three years is a long time for us to wait to find out what actually happened to our donations.The Cyclone Ami victims, according to the FLP parliamentarian Vijay Chand, are still waiting for help. Mr Chaudhry and the NFU cannot tell us to simply sod off. We have every right to know whether Account No 155728 existed with the Bank of Baroda. We also want to know what happened to our own individual donations, and how the money was spent. Mr Chaudhry must not be allowed to deploy shifting explanations as he did during the Haryanagate scandal. He has a penchant for accusing others of fraud and financial mismanagement, to take FASANOC as an example, where he stated that “There are reports of huge amounts of money having been misappropriated or paid as kick-backs to certain individuals and government officials associated with the Games”. Applying the same yardstick, Mr Chaudhry should himself put the record straight about the Cyclone Ami funds. We, as charitable bystander shareholders to the suffering of the Cyclone Ami victims, have every right to demand a detailed account from him and the NFU. That is if he admits that he had sanctioned the setting up of the account in his and that of the name of his union.The Bank of Baroda, as a reputable bank, also owes us an explanation. Their logo comprises dual ‘B’ that holds the rays of the rising sun. According to its promotional pitch, “the sun is an excellent representation of what our bank stands for. It is the single most powerful source of light and energy-its far reaching rays dispel darkness to illuminate everything they touch.”I hope that it will enlighten us on the issue I have touched upon. What is the truth Mr Chaudhry? How much money was collected in total and how much of it was distributed to the cyclone victims in 2003? Did you know of the existence of Account No 155728 in your name, and that of the NFU in the Bank of Baroda?Did Account No 155728 ever exist for the benefit of the Cyclone Ami victims? Did GOPIO hand over any funds to you, Mr Chaudhry, which it collected in New York? Or did another rogue and heartless fraudster swindle us in the name of the Cyclone Ami victims, and ride away on a galloping horse with the loot, into the Fiji sunset?We want a public balance sheet, and now.
February 2, 2008 at 7:29 am
Tobo tale o Van Damme! Bhaini Marama still does not realise that Maiya Chodo is taking him for a ride. Frank is just too thick to realise it!
Although Bhaini and his military council think that they are in control, they are too stupid to know that the man in total control is Maiya Chodo.
This man Chodo must be eliminated now or later!
February 2, 2008 at 7:33 am
The wannabe leader Bhaini Marama has stated that the timing of the general elections will be decided by God! This man is going off his rocker! Not that there was a lot of grey matter in that melon head of his!
February 2, 2008 at 9:54 am
Ratu Joni should have said more in his letter (F/T 02/02)
He could have given the reasons why he declined. It would’ve been a big help to our cause.
February 2, 2008 at 10:28 am
Oh! what great contributions we have here yet again. It is so refreshing to start the day on this site reading intelligent comments. Thank you for the depth of knowledge being shared here.
I am almost reluctant to pickup the newspapers these days. I dont know if I am the only one, but who would want to read an article titled “Food dumped at the dump”? And last week, a rather insensitive title on the article on a Sakiusa Rokodi’s fatal accident read; “Winner’s luck runs out”. Is this really what we’ve been reduced to? Unbelievable.
Thank God we have a better alternative here!
Sorry, did I get off the wrong side of the bed.. nah. Let us blog on good people.
February 2, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Sorry to change the subject folks, although this may not seem all that
important.
But we are wondering if anyone out there taped the John Samy interview on
Close Up. The reason is we have received several emails asking us where to it
would be possible to access a video of the interview. Unfortunately, the Fiji TV
website is not at all user-friendly, so it’s no good trying there. As well, we have
done a search ofYouTube, but to no avail. So, if someone has a copy of the
video could they email us at admin@fijidemocracynow.com and we’ll take it
from there.
Actually, if anyone has a copy they should post it on YouTibe and then advise
freedom blogsites – because there are a lot of people out there who would like
to have another look (and listen) to the stuff that spilled out of John Samy
during the interview. Many thanks for the space. Soli!
February 2, 2008 at 3:37 pm
A very good idea fiji democracy to have a copy of JS interview posted on You Tube. this will be really great for all of us who missed it. Yes i do agree with bula2 that Rt Joni shud have added more to his letter which on LTE today. It would have been nice to know why he declined the invitaion. but again, the Roko TuiBau is a man of mana and intergrity who i think he doesnt have to keep repeating himself about his stand. Its quite obvious he doesnt want to be involved with anythng illegal. He made himself clear from day 1; President press statement released 05/06 which was branded as “palace coup” by the Human rights commision or Shaista Shamimi and also when he made his speech in Aussie last year: Alice in wonderland.
Vinaka freedom bloggers for keeping on the good fight. Enjoyed reading all the comments here. happy new year NP; vosota a qou ni dada ni bera vaaca tio yane a vaabula ni yabai vou tuaaqu!
Just watched the Wellington 7s 1/4 final, We lost! Rauta talega, de qai sivia a kaso wei ######!
February 2, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Ratu Joni has made it clear that he does not agree with the illegal government or what it stands for – there is no reason for him to keep stating this & it’s about time the illegal government realises the fact and that the majority of the population & Fijians living overseas do not condone it either.
To Babasiga Kid
Adi Kaila did not state anywhere that our culture of VAKA ROKOROKO would be erased and I will copy & paste here what she wrote above:
“Our culture of ‘vaka rokoroko’ will always be with us no matter where we live in this world – it is inherent.”
“It is because of this inherent trait of ‘vaka rokoroko’ for these two chiefs that not much was said.”
I think she was expressing that we should respect the person that WE VOTE in regardless of who or where they come from, that an educated Fijian who is not of Noble Birth is more than capable of leading Fiji if given the chance to do so & we should desist from being tribal, I think along these same lines, after all we are all Fijians.
I have been reading this Blogsite since its inception and find AKs writings invaluable and uplifting.
February 6, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Rt Jone is a born leader and might I add , very also with total brains..We in my corner have alot of respect and admiration for this man for his principles, strength and great wisdomic balance. I say we should all rally behind him and make sure that he becomes our next president. Long live Rt Jone!!
February 7, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Congratulations on a fine piece by Navosavakadua, which we read with great
interest. We also read closely some of the comments/ particularly the 2006
article by Victor Lal posted by Honest. How interesting! And we could not fail
to be amused by yesterday’s reports that Bainimarama says God will decide
when the next election will be held.
Is it coincidental or not? Strikes us that whether it’s flying in the face of the
realities of ethnic arithmetic, questioning unaccounted cyclone relief donations
or waiting for elections promised by a dictator but subject to celestial guidance- it nevertheless, somehow, all adds up!